You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> on 2005/11/20 17:54:17 UTC

Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar from apache repository

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:55 -0800, Carlos Sanchez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Please remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar from
> http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/commons-logging/jars/

ack'd

looks like mark diggory put it in there when the repository was starting
out

- robert


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 07:09 +1100, Brett Porter wrote:
> 
>>robert burrell donkin wrote:
>>
>>>anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
>>>known bugs?
>>
>>It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
>>of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was "much much faster". I didn't 
>>quite believe it, but never tried.
> 
> 
> the version's somewhere between 1.0 and 1.0.1 and i'm really not sure
> how it could possibly be 'much much faster' :-/

heh. confusing :)

> 
> it may be a little faster since it probably lacks some of the complex
> code which is required to cope with the nightmarish variety of
> classloaders to be found out there in the wild but that's unlikely to
> make much of a difference in real use cases and certainly is much less
> than choosing a performant logging strategy.
> 

right, that makes sense.

> 
>>I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.
> 
> 
> future JCL releases?

oh, no - xdoclet. I'll file a bug there if they still depend on it.

Thanks,
Brett

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 07:09 +1100, Brett Porter wrote:
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
> > known bugs?
> 
> It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
> of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was "much much faster". I didn't 
> quite believe it, but never tried.

the version's somewhere between 1.0 and 1.0.1 and i'm really not sure
how it could possibly be 'much much faster' :-/

it may be a little faster since it probably lacks some of the complex
code which is required to cope with the nightmarish variety of
classloaders to be found out there in the wild but that's unlikely to
make much of a difference in real use cases and certainly is much less
than choosing a performant logging strategy.

> I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.

future JCL releases?

- robert


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
robert burrell donkin wrote:
> anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
> known bugs?

It's 1.1-dev, not 1.0-dev, and I think that someone (could have been one 
of the xdoclet devs) once told me it was "much much faster". I didn't 
quite believe it, but never tried.

I'd be inclined to refuse upload of future releases if this is still there.

Cheers,
Brett

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 02:21 +0100, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> Thx For the precision Brett

+1

> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org] 
> > Envoyé : lundi 21 novembre 2005 02:02
> > À : Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Objet : Re: [commons-logging] Remove 
> > commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository
> > 
> > Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> > > This jar was re-added some days ago because some important 
> > projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!

anyone know why they would want to depend on a very old version with
known bugs?
 
> > ... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards 
> > compatibility for those other projects, but not Apache as it 
> > should be only official releases there.

+1

- robert


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
Thx For the precision Brett

Cheers,

Arnaud


> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org] 
> Envoyé : lundi 21 novembre 2005 02:02
> À : Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Objet : Re: [commons-logging] Remove 
> commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository
> 
> Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> > This jar was re-added some days ago because some important 
> projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!
> > 
> 
> ... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards 
> compatibility for those other projects, but not Apache as it 
> should be only official releases there.
> 
> - Brett
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 



---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


Re: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> This jar was re-added some days ago because some important projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!
> 

... re-added to ibiblio for the sake of backwards compatibility for 
those other projects, but not Apache as it should be only official 
releases there.

- Brett

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org


RE: [commons-logging] Remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository

Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
This jar was re-added some days ago because some important projects like xdoclet use it in their releases !!

Arnaud

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : robert burrell donkin 
> [mailto:robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk] 
> Envoyé : dimanche 20 novembre 2005 17:54
> À : Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Objet : Re: [commons-logging] Remove 
> commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar fromapache repository
> 
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:55 -0800, Carlos Sanchez wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Please remove commons-logging-1.1-dev.jar from 
> > http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/commons-logging/jars/
> 
> ack'd
> 
> looks like mark diggory put it in there when the repository 
> was starting out
> 
> - robert
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 



---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org