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Posted to dev@perl.apache.org by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> on 2004/11/04 17:57:01 UTC
Re: cvs commit:
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache TestMM.pm
At 10:35 AM 11/4/2004, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>>> -TEST_VERBOSE ?= 0
>>> +TEST_VERBOSE = 0
>>
>> why not if (WIN32) {} then?
>
>do win32 environments add some magic WIN32 environment variable I can check
>in the Makefile? if they do and we can work around them that's cool with me.
If I had to guess, this borks anything but gmake. Test for that.
Bill
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Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
Geoffrey Young wrote:
> a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
> really gmake, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
> made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course, that
> list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
Umm, on all the solaris systems I've used make is in fact not gmake,
there are a number of solaris specific differences. This is at least
true on solaris 2.6 through solaris 8. I'm not sure about 9 or 10.
-garrett
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Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Geoffrey Young <ge...@modperlcookbook.org>.
>>a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
>>really gmake
>
>
> Well, the way you have it installed perhaps. But attempting this
> against /usr/ccs/bin/make it most definately blows up.
ok. I actually don't have a solaris box to try on - I just went to sun's
support site and saw that the manpage for make was gmake (at least the one
that google first pointed me toward :)
>
>
>>, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
>>made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course,
>>that list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
>
>
> Hardly. The man page for hpux 11 make makes no mention of ?=
> nor does AIX 5.1. you are 2 for 5.
yeah, not good.
>
> Explicitly fails on native make(s) on AIX 5.1, HPUX 11, Solaris 2.6.
> Please find another solution.
well, the solution at the moment is to not have a solution - cvs has been
reverted, so unless a real solution can be found it will remain a minor nit.
> p.s. simple test I used...
>
> TERM ?= uberterm
> all:
> echo $(TERM)
the gmake manual suggests that ?= is equivalent to
ifeq ($(origin TEST_VERBOSE), undefined)
TEST_VERBOSE = 0
endif
so that might make for a good test - the gmake manual didn't speficially say
that origin was explicit to it, but then again it didn't mention ?= either :)
--Geoff
Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Geoffrey Young <ge...@modperlcookbook.org>.
>>a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
>>really gmake
>
>
> Well, the way you have it installed perhaps. But attempting this
> against /usr/ccs/bin/make it most definately blows up.
ok. I actually don't have a solaris box to try on - I just went to sun's
support site and saw that the manpage for make was gmake (at least the one
that google first pointed me toward :)
>
>
>>, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
>>made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course,
>>that list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
>
>
> Hardly. The man page for hpux 11 make makes no mention of ?=
> nor does AIX 5.1. you are 2 for 5.
yeah, not good.
>
> Explicitly fails on native make(s) on AIX 5.1, HPUX 11, Solaris 2.6.
> Please find another solution.
well, the solution at the moment is to not have a solution - cvs has been
reverted, so unless a real solution can be found it will remain a minor nit.
> p.s. simple test I used...
>
> TERM ?= uberterm
> all:
> echo $(TERM)
the gmake manual suggests that ?= is equivalent to
ifeq ($(origin TEST_VERBOSE), undefined)
TEST_VERBOSE = 0
endif
so that might make for a good test - the gmake manual didn't speficially say
that origin was explicit to it, but then again it didn't mention ?= either :)
--Geoff
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Re: cvs commit:
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache TestMM.pm
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
At 11:23 AM 11/4/2004, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>>
>> If I had to guess, this borks anything but gmake. Test for that.
>
>I had asked on #asf about this and somebody (I forget who) said that the
>make manpage on minortaur (some bsd variant) supports ?= as well. from
>looking at that it seems to be the manpage for pmake, which I guess is some
>other make variant. so limiting it to gmake at least would seem to wipe out
>bsd folks.
Ok, looks good for pmake, yes... however...
>a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
>really gmake
Well, the way you have it installed perhaps. But attempting this
against /usr/ccs/bin/make it most definately blows up.
>, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
>made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course,
>that list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
Hardly. The man page for hpux 11 make makes no mention of ?=
nor does AIX 5.1. you are 2 for 5.
Explicitly fails on native make(s) on AIX 5.1, HPUX 11, Solaris 2.6.
Please find another solution.
Bill
p.s. simple test I used...
TERM ?= uberterm
all:
echo $(TERM)
Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
Geoffrey Young wrote:
> a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
> really gmake, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
> made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course, that
> list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
Umm, on all the solaris systems I've used make is in fact not gmake,
there are a number of solaris specific differences. This is at least
true on solaris 2.6 through solaris 8. I'm not sure about 9 or 10.
-garrett
Re: cvs commit:
httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache TestMM.pm
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
At 11:23 AM 11/4/2004, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>>
>> If I had to guess, this borks anything but gmake. Test for that.
>
>I had asked on #asf about this and somebody (I forget who) said that the
>make manpage on minortaur (some bsd variant) supports ?= as well. from
>looking at that it seems to be the manpage for pmake, which I guess is some
>other make variant. so limiting it to gmake at least would seem to wipe out
>bsd folks.
Ok, looks good for pmake, yes... however...
>a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
>really gmake
Well, the way you have it installed perhaps. But attempting this
against /usr/ccs/bin/make it most definately blows up.
>, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
>made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course,
>that list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
Hardly. The man page for hpux 11 make makes no mention of ?=
nor does AIX 5.1. you are 2 for 5.
Explicitly fails on native make(s) on AIX 5.1, HPUX 11, Solaris 2.6.
Please find another solution.
Bill
p.s. simple test I used...
TERM ?= uberterm
all:
echo $(TERM)
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Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Geoffrey Young <ge...@modperlcookbook.org>.
>
> If I had to guess, this borks anything but gmake. Test for that.
I had asked on #asf about this and somebody (I forget who) said that the
make manpage on minortaur (some bsd variant) supports ?= as well. from
looking at that it seems to be the manpage for pmake, which I guess is some
other make variant. so limiting it to gmake at least would seem to wipe out
bsd folks.
a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
really gmake, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course, that
list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
anyway, this just isn't my area, so I'm happy to defer to others that grok
all this SA-type stuff. but if most unix-variants support ?=, or if there
is another more universal way to work around the issue, I would hate to see
the correct behavior only for unix people using gmake.
--Geoff
Re: cvs commit: httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/lib/Apache
TestMM.pm
Posted by Geoffrey Young <ge...@modperlcookbook.org>.
>
> If I had to guess, this borks anything but gmake. Test for that.
I had asked on #asf about this and somebody (I forget who) said that the
make manpage on minortaur (some bsd variant) supports ?= as well. from
looking at that it seems to be the manpage for pmake, which I guess is some
other make variant. so limiting it to gmake at least would seem to wipe out
bsd folks.
a little digging on my own at the time made it seem like solaris make is
really gmake, so between linux, solaris, and bsd a decent case was being
made that most unix make variants to support the syntax. of course, that
list of 3 was hardly exhaustive :)
anyway, this just isn't my area, so I'm happy to defer to others that grok
all this SA-type stuff. but if most unix-variants support ?=, or if there
is another more universal way to work around the issue, I would hate to see
the correct behavior only for unix people using gmake.
--Geoff
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