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Posted to dev@lucene.apache.org by Doug Cutting <cu...@apache.org> on 2005/02/14 18:24:08 UTC

Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> lucene.apache.org seems to work now.
> Here is the query syntax:
>   http://lucene.apache.org/queryparsersyntax.html

We should be cautious in promoting lucene.apache.org urls until we have 
this structured correctly.  Let's stick with calling this 
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/queryparsersyntax.html for now.  Soon 
it should probably become 
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/java/queryparsersyntax.html.  Maybe we 
should set that up ASAP, so that folks don't create links we'll soon break?

Doug

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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by John Haxby <jc...@scalix.com>.
Erik Hatcher wrote:

> I've seen that too.... it worked fine for a while, and then no 
> longer.  I thought it might be a temporary DNS thing.

I think it is.   The DNS does take a little while to settle down when a 
new name appears: it's only just appeared in my ISP.   When I was 
managing my (old) company's server it could take about a day for changes 
to propagate around the world.  I generally tried to make changes a 
couple of days in advance of using the new name on the web site to be 
absolutely sure.

jch

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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by Erik Hatcher <er...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Bernhard Messer wrote:
> Uuuuuhhhh, the whole damed thing at http://lucene.apache.org is not 
> responding any longer

I've seen that too.... it worked fine for a while, and then no longer.  
I thought it might be a temporary DNS thing.

	Erik


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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by Bernhard Messer <bm...@apache.org>.
Erik Hatcher schrieb:

> On Feb 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
>
>> Erik Hatcher wrote:
>>
>>> I'm really at the limit of my bandwidth - I've got the sandbox 
>>> restructuring effort on my plate right now and would like it if 
>>> someone could pick up the ball on the web site side of things.
>>
>>
>> Then perhaps you shouldn't have redirected everything to 
>> lucene.apache.org...
>
>
> I think the redirects are all fine now.  Let me know if not.
>
> As for my bandwidth - I don't mind fiddling with the redirects and 
> such.  What I meant is that I'm not planning on spending time 
> revamping the actual HTML itself in terms of Forrestization.
>
>> We need to fix this ASAP.  I just checked out the java lucene docs in 
>> http://lucene.apache.org/java/.  Now we just need to fixup the 
>> redirects, so that http://lucene.apache.org/ and 
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/ both redirect to 
>> http://lucene.apache.org/java/.
>
>
> Actually it should have been checked out to /java/docs to mirror how 
> the jakarta site was set up.  I've corrected this.
>
> I added a symlink to the jakarta api docs until we figure out how we 
> want to deal with it.  Hopefully that all works fine too.

I did a test few seconds ago and it's not working for me :-(. Maybe the 
http server is configured to not following symbolic links.

Uuuuuhhhh, the whole damed thing at http://lucene.apache.org is not 
responding any longer

Bernhard


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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by Erik Hatcher <er...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
On Feb 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
> Erik Hatcher wrote:
>> I'm really at the limit of my bandwidth - I've got the sandbox 
>> restructuring effort on my plate right now and would like it if 
>> someone could pick up the ball on the web site side of things.
>
> Then perhaps you shouldn't have redirected everything to 
> lucene.apache.org...

I think the redirects are all fine now.  Let me know if not.

As for my bandwidth - I don't mind fiddling with the redirects and 
such.  What I meant is that I'm not planning on spending time revamping 
the actual HTML itself in terms of Forrestization.

> We need to fix this ASAP.  I just checked out the java lucene docs in 
> http://lucene.apache.org/java/.  Now we just need to fixup the 
> redirects, so that http://lucene.apache.org/ and 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/ both redirect to 
> http://lucene.apache.org/java/.

Actually it should have been checked out to /java/docs to mirror how 
the jakarta site was set up.  I've corrected this.

I added a symlink to the jakarta api docs until we figure out how we 
want to deal with it.  Hopefully that all works fine too.

> How did you implement the redirect?  It's not a meta redirect, so they 
> must be in the web server configuration?  How does one change that?

.htaccess files.  The Jakarta redirect is in the site module in 
Subversion, under docs.  The redirect is this:

	RedirectMatch Permanent ^/lucene(.*) http://lucene.apache.org/java$1

On the lucene.apache.org side, there is a .htaccess in 
/www/lucene.apache.org - though we should get this in SVN some where I 
suppose.

> It's worth looking at what various search engines list for Lucene and 
> making sure that those links are not broken:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?&q=+site%3Aapache.org+lucene
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lucene+site%3Aapache.org
> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site%3Aapache.org+lucene

As far as I can tell, all the redirects should be working fine for the 
URL's I see there.  If you see otherwise, let me know.

	Erik


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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by Doug Cutting <cu...@apache.org>.
Erik Hatcher wrote:
> I'm really at the limit of my bandwidth - I've got the sandbox 
> restructuring effort on my plate right now and would like it if someone 
> could pick up the ball on the web site side of things.

Then perhaps you shouldn't have redirected everything to 
lucene.apache.org...

We need to fix this ASAP.  I just checked out the java lucene docs in 
http://lucene.apache.org/java/.  Now we just need to fixup the 
redirects, so that http://lucene.apache.org/ and 
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/ both redirect to 
http://lucene.apache.org/java/.

How did you implement the redirect?  It's not a meta redirect, so they 
must be in the web server configuration?  How does one change that?

It's worth looking at what various search engines list for Lucene and 
making sure that those links are not broken:

http://www.google.com/search?&q=+site%3Aapache.org+lucene
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lucene+site%3Aapache.org
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=site%3Aapache.org+lucene

Doug

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Re: What does [] do to a query and what's up with lucene.apache.org?

Posted by Erik Hatcher <er...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:

> Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>> lucene.apache.org seems to work now.
>> Here is the query syntax:
>>   http://lucene.apache.org/queryparsersyntax.html
>
> We should be cautious in promoting lucene.apache.org urls until we 
> have this structured correctly.  Let's stick with calling this 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/queryparsersyntax.html for now.  Soon 
> it should probably become 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/java/queryparsersyntax.html.  Maybe 
> we should set that up ASAP, so that folks don't create links we'll 
> soon break?

The redirect is in place, though.  I can have all redirects go to the 
top of lucene.apache.org though, if thats better.

I'm really at the limit of my bandwidth - I've got the sandbox 
restructuring effort on my plate right now and would like it if someone 
could pick up the ball on the web site side of things.

	Erik


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