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German error messages

Could one of our German speakers please read and address:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8491

Thanks.

Joshua.


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Re: German error messages

Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
André Malo wrote:
> * Erik Abele wrote:
> 
> 
>>I would suggest "Authentisierung" but we (the german speakers) had a
>>discussion about that some time ago and didn't come to a satisfiable
>>solution. hmmm, perhaps the time has come?
>>
>>Babelfish, Google, LEO and the Duden say "Authentisierung" is proper
>>German and I will commit it now; it's definetely better than
>>"Authentikation".
>>
>>If someone feels better with "Authentifizierung" or comes up with some
>>other words (e.g. "Beglaubigung") than we can discuss this another time,
>>but for now this should be fine.
> 
> 
> As I found out in the meantime... the problem goes a bit deeper ;-(
> 
> The user supplies his credentials, that is "Authentisierung".
> The server verifies the credentials, that is actually "Authentifizierung".
> The server decides, whether the user has access or not, that is 
> "Autorisierung" (without 'h', please remove that there...).
> 

I know... that whole discussion is annoying and much too confusing for a 
simple error message :-(

but I fixed "Aut(h)orisierung", thanks!

> *sigh*
> 
> However, I'm +1 for "Authentisierung". because something like 
> 
> "Authentisierung erforderlich, der Server konnte Sie nicht 
> authentifizieren; Sie werden nicht autorisiert, auf die Ressource blah..."
> 

ROTFL...imagine some other languages have similar problems ;-)

> is probably more confusing than it helps.
> 
> nd




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Re: German error messages

Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* Erik Abele wrote:

> I would suggest "Authentisierung" but we (the german speakers) had a
> discussion about that some time ago and didn't come to a satisfiable
> solution. hmmm, perhaps the time has come?
> 
> Babelfish, Google, LEO and the Duden say "Authentisierung" is proper
> German and I will commit it now; it's definetely better than
> "Authentikation".
> 
> If someone feels better with "Authentifizierung" or comes up with some
> other words (e.g. "Beglaubigung") than we can discuss this another time,
> but for now this should be fine.

As I found out in the meantime... the problem goes a bit deeper ;-(

The user supplies his credentials, that is "Authentisierung".
The server verifies the credentials, that is actually "Authentifizierung".
The server decides, whether the user has access or not, that is 
"Autorisierung" (without 'h', please remove that there...).

*sigh*

However, I'm +1 for "Authentisierung". because something like 

"Authentisierung erforderlich, der Server konnte Sie nicht 
authentifizieren; Sie werden nicht autorisiert, auf die Ressource blah..."

is probably more confusing than it helps.

nd
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my $japh = q[sub japh { }]; print join       #########################
 [ $japh =~ /{(.)}/] -> [0] => map $_ -> ()  #            André Malo #
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Re: German error messages

Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
Joshua Slive wrote:
> Could one of our German speakers please read and address:
> 
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8491
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Joshua.
> 

I would suggest "Authentisierung" but we (the german speakers) had a 
discussion about that some time ago and didn't come to a satisfiable 
solution. hmmm, perhaps the time has come?

Babelfish, Google, LEO and the Duden say "Authentisierung" is proper 
German and I will commit it now; it's definetely better than 
"Authentikation".

If someone feels better with "Authentifizierung" or comes up with some 
other words (e.g. "Beglaubigung") than we can discuss this another time, 
but for now this should be fine.

Erik


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Re: German error messages

Posted by Astrid Kessler <ke...@kess-net.de>.
> And here's another one:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13119
> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Joshua Slive wrote:
> 
>> Could one of our German speakers please read and address:
>>
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8491

The bug reporter is right in both cases.

Kess

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Re: German error messages

Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
will look at it, too...

Erik

Joshua Slive wrote:
> And here's another one:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13119
> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Joshua Slive wrote:
> 
> 
>>Could one of our German speakers please read and address:
>>
>>http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8491
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Joshua.
>>
>>





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Re: German error messages

Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
And here's another one:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13119


On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Joshua Slive wrote:

> Could one of our German speakers please read and address:
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8491
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joshua.
>
>
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