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[VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was:
overzealous bureaucracy...)
Hi,
As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
the general idea of this change.
I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
Incubator PMC objects.
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
+1
Regards
JB
Le 19 juil. 2019 à 14:42, à 14:42, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> a écrit:
>+1 and I do like the new text.
>
>On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:43 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>
>> +1
>> --
>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> > Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely
>> > polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in
>this
>> thread
>> > (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).
>> >
>> > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
>> bdelacretaz@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
>> > > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
>> > > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
>> > >
>> > > I think the current description can be understood as the
>Incubator
>> > > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
>> > >
>> > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a
>documented
>> > > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice
>that
>> > > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the
>past.
>> > >
>> > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details
>of
>> > > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if
>needed.
>> > >
>> > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully
>approve ;-)
>> > > the general idea of this change.
>> > >
>> > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone
>from the
>> > > Incubator PMC objects.
>> > >
>> > > -Bertrand
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings
(was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
+1 and I do like the new text.
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:43 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
wrote:
> +1
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely
> > polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this
> thread
> > (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).
> >
> > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> > > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> > > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
> > >
> > > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> > > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
> > >
> > > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> > > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> > > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
> > >
> > > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> > > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
> > >
> > > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> > > the general idea of this change.
> > >
> > > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> > > Incubator PMC objects.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings
(was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
+1
--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely
> polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread
> (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).
>
> > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
> >
> > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
> >
> > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
> >
> > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
> >
> > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> > the general idea of this change.
> >
> > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> > Incubator PMC objects.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings
(was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
>
> I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
>
> Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
>
> If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
>
> I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> the general idea of this change.
>
> I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings
(was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects...
I have merged that now, thanks for the comments and contributions
there, the content is now live at http://incubator.apache.org/
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings
(was: overzealous bureaucracy...)
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
That sounds good to me (the general idea at least).
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
>
> I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
>
> Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
>
> If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
>
> I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> the general idea of this change.
>
> I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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