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Posted to user@cassandra.apache.org by Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> on 2012/08/24 09:06:59 UTC
are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Hello!
we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
application create CFs at once.
at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
1391, it is said it is still open.
however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
if multiple server create the same CF ?
Cheers,
Ilya Shipitsin
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>.
> +1 What kinds of problems?
Cassandra uses identifier internally for each CF. If you concurrently
create CFs, you might end up with either two different CFs having the
same identifier or the same CF having two different identifiers (on
two different nodes). That in turn might likely trigger a number of
exceptions server side and could be rather painful to fix.
So do not do it. Not until 1.2 at least.
--
Sylvain
> Thanks,
> Dean
>
> From: Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<ma...@cassandra.apache.org>" <us...@cassandra.apache.org>>
> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:12 PM
> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<ma...@cassandra.apache.org>" <us...@cassandra.apache.org>>
> Subject: Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
>
>
> what kind of problems?
>
> "nodes do not agree about schema" exception on later node ? something worse?
>
> 2012/9/5 Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Is it ok multiple servers will create/update the same CF at once ? I'm
>> looking into dynamic schema update during application deploy/update.
>
> As said above, it is ok for update the same CF concurrently in 1.1 but
> *not* for creation (if you create CF concurrently, whether that is the
> same CF or not, you might have problem). The last part will be fixed
> in 1.2 however.
>
> --
> Sylvain
>
>>
>> вторник, 4 сентября 2012 г. пользователь Sylvain Lebresne писал:
>>
>>> To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
>>> already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
>>> but that will be fixed in 1.2.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sylvain
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
>>> >
>>> > I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad
>>> > search
>>> > fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > -----------------
>>> > Aaron Morton
>>> > Freelance Developer
>>> > @aaronmorton
>>> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
>>> >
>>> > On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello!
>>> >
>>> > we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
>>> > application create CFs at once.
>>> >
>>> > at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
>>> > 1391, it is said it is still open.
>>> > however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
>>> >
>>> > can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
>>> > if multiple server create the same CF ?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Ilya Shipitsin
>>> >
>>> >
>
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by "Hiller, Dean" <De...@nrel.gov>.
+1 What kinds of problems?
Thanks,
Dean
From: Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<ma...@cassandra.apache.org>" <us...@cassandra.apache.org>>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:12 PM
To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<ma...@cassandra.apache.org>" <us...@cassandra.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
what kind of problems?
"nodes do not agree about schema" exception on later node ? something worse?
2012/9/5 Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>>
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Is it ok multiple servers will create/update the same CF at once ? I'm
> looking into dynamic schema update during application deploy/update.
As said above, it is ok for update the same CF concurrently in 1.1 but
*not* for creation (if you create CF concurrently, whether that is the
same CF or not, you might have problem). The last part will be fixed
in 1.2 however.
--
Sylvain
>
> вторник, 4 сентября 2012 г. пользователь Sylvain Lebresne писал:
>
>> To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
>> already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
>> but that will be fixed in 1.2.
>>
>> --
>> Sylvain
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
>> >
>> > I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad
>> > search
>> > fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > -----------------
>> > Aaron Morton
>> > Freelance Developer
>> > @aaronmorton
>> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
>> >
>> > On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
>> > application create CFs at once.
>> >
>> > at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
>> > 1391, it is said it is still open.
>> > however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
>> >
>> > can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
>> > if multiple server create the same CF ?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ilya Shipitsin
>> >
>> >
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>.
what kind of problems?
"nodes do not agree about schema" exception on later node ? something worse?
2012/9/5 Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it ok multiple servers will create/update the same CF at once ? I'm
> > looking into dynamic schema update during application deploy/update.
>
> As said above, it is ok for update the same CF concurrently in 1.1 but
> *not* for creation (if you create CF concurrently, whether that is the
> same CF or not, you might have problem). The last part will be fixed
> in 1.2 however.
>
> --
> Sylvain
>
> >
> > вторник, 4 сентября 2012 г. пользователь Sylvain Lebresne писал:
> >
> >> To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
> >> already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
> >> but that will be fixed in 1.2.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sylvain
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aaron@thelastpickle.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
> >> >
> >> > I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad
> >> > search
> >> > fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
> >> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > -----------------
> >> > Aaron Morton
> >> > Freelance Developer
> >> > @aaronmorton
> >> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
> >> >
> >> > On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello!
> >> >
> >> > we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances
> of
> >> > application create CFs at once.
> >> >
> >> > at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open
> ticket
> >> > 1391, it is said it is still open.
> >> > however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
> >> >
> >> > can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
> >> > if multiple server create the same CF ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Ilya Shipitsin
> >> >
> >> >
>
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it ok multiple servers will create/update the same CF at once ? I'm
> looking into dynamic schema update during application deploy/update.
As said above, it is ok for update the same CF concurrently in 1.1 but
*not* for creation (if you create CF concurrently, whether that is the
same CF or not, you might have problem). The last part will be fixed
in 1.2 however.
--
Sylvain
>
> вторник, 4 сентября 2012 г. пользователь Sylvain Lebresne писал:
>
>> To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
>> already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
>> but that will be fixed in 1.2.
>>
>> --
>> Sylvain
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
>> >
>> > I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad
>> > search
>> > fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > -----------------
>> > Aaron Morton
>> > Freelance Developer
>> > @aaronmorton
>> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
>> >
>> > On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
>> > application create CFs at once.
>> >
>> > at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
>> > 1391, it is said it is still open.
>> > however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
>> >
>> > can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
>> > if multiple server create the same CF ?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ilya Shipitsin
>> >
>> >
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com>.
Is it ok multiple servers will create/update the same CF at once ? I'm
looking into dynamic schema update during application deploy/update.
вторник, 4 сентября 2012 г. пользователь Sylvain Lebresne писал:
> To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
> already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
> but that will be fixed in 1.2.
>
> --
> Sylvain
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aaron@thelastpickle.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
> >
> > I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad
> search
> > fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -----------------
> > Aaron Morton
> > Freelance Developer
> > @aaronmorton
> > http://www.thelastpickle.com
> >
> > On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <chipitsine@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
> > application create CFs at once.
> >
> > at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
> > 1391, it is said it is still open.
> > however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
> >
> > can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
> > if multiple server create the same CF ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ilya Shipitsin
> >
> >
>
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by Sylvain Lebresne <sy...@datastax.com>.
To add to Aaron response, you can update a CF concurrently in 1.1
already. However, you cannot create multiple CF concurrently just yet,
but that will be fixed in 1.2.
--
Sylvain
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com> wrote:
> Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
>
> I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad search
> fu. The issues for 1.2 are here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
>
> Cheers
>
> -----------------
> Aaron Morton
> Freelance Developer
> @aaronmorton
> http://www.thelastpickle.com
>
> On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of
> application create CFs at once.
>
> at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket
> 1391, it is said it is still open.
> however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
>
> can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
> if multiple server create the same CF ?
>
> Cheers,
> Ilya Shipitsin
>
>
Re: are asynchronous schema updates possible ?
Posted by aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com>.
Concurrent schema changes are coming in 1.2.
I could not find a single issue that covered it, that may be my bad search fu. The issues for 1.2 are here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA/fixforversion/12319262
Cheers
-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Developer
@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com
On 24/08/2012, at 7:06 PM, Илья Шипицин <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> we are looking into concurent schema updates (when multiple instances of application create CFs at once.
>
> at the http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/MultiTenant there's open ticket 1391, it is said it is still open.
> however, in jura is said "1.1.0 is fixed"
>
> can schema be updated asynchrously on 1.1.x ? or not ?
> if multiple server create the same CF ?
>
> Cheers,
> Ilya Shipitsin