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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Keiron Liddle <ke...@aftexsw.com> on 2002/10/23 08:39:08 UTC
Re: [Fwd: Regarding your comment about inline building on
xsl-editors]
Hi Peter and others,
The answer appears to be a clarification of the the spec authors had in
the minds when writing it.
The answer is what I was originally thinking it meant, that is that a
block area under an inline is not wrapped by an inline area but rather
the block area becomes a sibling of the lines areas created for the
inline areas.
so:
<block>
<inline>some text <block>a block</block> more text</inline>
</block>
is the same as:
<block>
<inline>some text </inline>
<block>a block</block>
<inline> more text</inline>
</block>
The block may inherit some properties from the inline but it is not
wrapped by the properties of the inline or wrapped by an inline area
that has traits.
Here are some references that I could find:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=97951301002986&w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=102011250524180&w=2
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 04:33, Peter B. West wrote:
> Fopdevs,
>
> For those of you who are not subscribed to the xsl-editors list.
>
> Comments please. I've been trying to track down the original discussion
> that triggered my request ot the editors, in hopes of being able to
> enter into the mind-set of inline-building again, but at the moment I'm
> just confused.
>
> Peter
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Regarding your comment about inline building on xsl-editors
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:37:10 -0500
> From: Paul Grosso <pg...@arbortext.com>
> To: "Peter B. West" <pb...@powerup.com.au>
> CC: xsl-editors@w3.org
>
>
> Peter,
>
> Thank you for your comment to xsl-editors@w3.org archived at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xsl-editors/2002AprJun/0031
>
> We determined that the spec required some corrections to address
> your question. We would appreciate it if you could let us know
> if you feel that our proposed changes sufficiently address your
> questions.
>
> The following is our proposed disposition of your above comment:
>
> ---
>
> We propose the following corrections to the spec:
>
> 1. the "Areas" portion of 6.9.2 [fo:basic-link] be changed from:
>
>
> The fo:basic-link formatting object generates one or more normal
> inline-areas. The fo:basic-link returns these areas, any
> page-level-out-of-line areas, and any reference-level-out-of-line
> areas returned by the children of the fo:basic-link.
>
> to:
>
> The fo:basic-link formatting object generates one or more normal
> inline-areas. The fo:basic-link returns these areas,
> together with any normal block-areas,
> page-level-out-of-line areas, and reference-level-out-of-line
> areas returned by the children of the fo:basic-link.
>
>
> 2. The same changes should be made to 6.6.2 [fo:bidi-override] and 6.6.7
> [fo:inline], which have the same difficulty.
>
>
> 3. In section 4.7.3 [Inline-building] the following phrase
> (that describes the subject of the ordering constraints):
>
> the normal and/or anchor inline-areas
> returned by the child formatting objects,
>
> should be changed to:
>
> the normal and/or anchor inline-areas
> and normal block-areas
> returned by the child formatting objects,
>
> ---
>
> Please Reply (cc-ing xsl-editors@w3.org) if you wish to make
> an objection to our resolution.
>
> Thank you for your interest in XSL.
>
> Paul Grosso for the XSL FO Subgroup of the XSL WG
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Re: [Fwd: Regarding your comment about inline building
on xsl-editors]
Posted by Keiron Liddle <ke...@aftexsw.com>.
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 15:55, Peter B. West wrote:
> Keiron,
>
> Thanks, and thanks for the references. I haven't had time to look at
> this in detail yet, but I will as soon as possible. Do you feel as
> queasy about this as I do?
Hi Peter,
Either way seems quite awkward to me, depending on what view you look at
it from.
It sort of makes sense in particular ways but it is also confusing. Even
though the block area is within an inline area and you might think it is
contained by things like background, link.
On the other side having a block constrained to a line area is difficult
to work out how that should be handled in various situations.
I suppose it needs to go one way or the other.
Keiron
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Re: [Fwd: Regarding your comment about inline building on xsl-editors]
Posted by "Peter B. West" <pb...@powerup.com.au>.
Keiron,
Thanks, and thanks for the references. I haven't had time to look at
this in detail yet, but I will as soon as possible. Do you feel as
queasy about this as I do?
Peter
Keiron Liddle wrote:
> Hi Peter and others,
>
> The answer appears to be a clarification of the the spec authors had in
> the minds when writing it.
>
> The answer is what I was originally thinking it meant, that is that a
> block area under an inline is not wrapped by an inline area but rather
> the block area becomes a sibling of the lines areas created for the
> inline areas.
> so:
> <block>
> <inline>some text <block>a block</block> more text</inline>
> </block>
>
> is the same as:
> <block>
> <inline>some text </inline>
> <block>a block</block>
> <inline> more text</inline>
> </block>
>
> The block may inherit some properties from the inline but it is not
> wrapped by the properties of the inline or wrapped by an inline area
> that has traits.
>
> Here are some references that I could find:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=97951301002986&w=2
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=102011250524180&w=2
--
Peter B. West pbwest@powerup.com.au http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/
"Lord, to whom shall we go?"
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