please unsub uppermohawkinc.com

[Michael Scheidell <mi...@secnap.com>]

numnuts at
uppermohawkinc.com doesn't know how to run a mail server, and should not 
be 'backscatter' bouncing email.

I just got 6 bounces (not smtp reject) but bounces from them for email 
sent to users@spamassassin.apache.org

anyone that does that should NOT be infecting the rest of the world with 
their backscatter.

also seems the jerks think that email 'From: ' me (sent through 
users@spamassassin.apache.org) needs to match MY spf records
(yes, spf is broken.. no, the jerks that think spf stops spam are 
broken, the jerks that run mail servers and can't read, they are broken)


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Re: please unsub uppermohawkinc.com

["Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet)" <mk...@gmail.com>]

On 4/1/2011 5:31 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> numnuts at
> uppermohawkinc.com doesn't know how to run a mail server, and should 
> not be 'backscatter' bouncing email.
>
> I just got 6 bounces (not smtp reject) but bounces from them for email 
> sent to users@spamassassin.apache.org
>
> anyone that does that should NOT be infecting the rest of the world 
> with their backscatter.
>
> also seems the jerks think that email 'From: ' me (sent through 
> users@spamassassin.apache.org) needs to match MY spf records
> (yes, spf is broken.. no, the jerks that think spf stops spam are 
> broken, the jerks that run mail servers and can't read, they are broken)
>
>
Thanks for the explanation. I was just trying to decipher the bounce 
message I go to figure out why.

[resolved] Re: please unsub uppermohawkinc.com

[Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de>]

While unsubscribing I also notified the affected address. Seems they are
aware of the issue and fixing it. Quote:

> Apologies to the list and the moderators. We had a server die badly and
> sent bounces back at everyone. For the time being, I'll remain off
> list.


On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 01:04 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> FWIW, I received a single note by the list server, because an address at
> that domain has been looping back to the list. No bounce. Hours after
> the post. Still no similar incident with my later post, so I figured it
> might be a temporary mis-configuration on their end.
> 
> Anyway, given your post and Matthew's confirmation, I'll unsub the
> address now.

-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}

Re: please unsub uppermohawkinc.com

[Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de>]

Just for the record, yet again -- sending moderation requests to the,
uhm, moderators is likely to get faster attention than to dump it on the
list.

Moderators are users-owner@ and similar for any other SA list.


On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 18:31 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> numnuts at
> uppermohawkinc.com doesn't know how to run a mail server, and should not 
> be 'backscatter' bouncing email.
> 
> I just got 6 bounces (not smtp reject) but bounces from them for email 
> sent to users@spamassassin.apache.org

Did you get the bounce from *them*?

FWIW, I received a single note by the list server, because an address at
that domain has been looping back to the list. No bounce. Hours after
the post. Still no similar incident with my later post, so I figured it
might be a temporary mis-configuration on their end.

Anyway, given your post and Matthew's confirmation, I'll unsub the
address now.


> anyone that does that should NOT be infecting the rest of the world with 
> their backscatter.
> 
> also seems the jerks think that email 'From: ' me (sent through 
> users@spamassassin.apache.org) needs to match MY spf records
> (yes, spf is broken.. no, the jerks that think spf stops spam are 
> broken, the jerks that run mail servers and can't read, they are broken)

Well, no SPF involved here.


-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}