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Posted to user@ignite.apache.org by Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org> on 2023/06/27 14:42:33 UTC

Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Hi Satyajit,

> ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in
another  node  and  not  in  same  node
No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions
always reside on a different node.
To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more
backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the
cluster).

- AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads
multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
- If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider
RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]

[1]
https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html
[2]
https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter
[3]
https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:

> Hi  Pavel,
>
>
>
> We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in
> one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache
> store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for
> others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches
> how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a
> particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.
> Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for
> in  memory  caches.
>
>
>
> Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
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RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by "satyajit.mandal.barclays.com via user" <us...@ignite.apache.org>.
Hi  Pavel,

Thanks  for  below  Info.  I need  one  more clarification  regarding  data  consistency and  your  views.
We  have a microservice  based  architecture where  one service  will  update/insert  the cache cluster  and  notify  other service  to  read  data  from  cache in  real  time way. So  lookup can  happen  either  key  based or  applying  TextQuery  search.
We  have  external  cache store as  backup but  that  will not  help  during  Text Query  Search  as  all  data needs to  be  in  memory. So  do  you  see  any  issue  with data  consistency  while  querying  the cache?

We  will  ensure  sufficient  memory  per data  region. Is  there  anything  else  which  needs  to  be monitored  . If  you  can  share  some views . We can  add  those  metrics  for  monitoring?

Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


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Hi Satyajit,

> ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node
No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions always reside on a different node.
To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the cluster).

- AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
- If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]

[1] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
[2] https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
[3] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi  Pavel,

We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for  others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.  Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for  in  memory  caches.


Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)



Regards

Satyajit


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Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>.
Could you test the simplest use case:
- In-memory cache without any persistence
- 1 backup
- WriteSynchronizationMode = FullSync
- Check count with ICache.GetSize

Then we can add other parts (persistence) one by one to see where the
problem might be.

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:17 AM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:

> Hi  Pavel,
>
>
>
> The  cluster  consist  of  some  caches  using  Native  persistence  and
> some  caches  connected  to external  cache  store. BackUp = 1 is  set
> for  every  cache.
>
> I  checked  the  count  of  cache  connected  to  external  cache  store
> once  it  was  prepopulated and  then stopping  one  node. Ignite  is
> running  as  .NET  Embedded  Service.
>
>
>
> Am using  Jolokia  to  connect  to  Ignite JMX  metrics  as  Rest  Api
> and  checking  counts? Any  thoughts or  alternate way to  check  count?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> *From:* Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:36 AM
> *To:* Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
> *Cc:* user@ignite.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite
> .net node
>
>
>
> Hi  Pavel,
>
>
>
> I  am  using  JMX Metrics  to  count  the  cache  entries.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> *From:* Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:34 AM
> *To:* Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>
> *Cc:* user@ignite.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite
> .net node
>
>
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation -
> ptupitsyn@apache.org Do not click on links, open attachments, or respond
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>
> With 1 backup and 1 node loss there should not be any data loss. How do
> you count the entries?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:00 AM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Pavel,
>
>
>
> We  did  testing  with  BackUp = 1  and  with  WriteSynchronizationMode
> as  PrimarySync  as  well  as  FullSync  we  found  that  when  we  are
> stopping  one  node and  comparing  the  count we observed  that  count
> of  cache  size  is not  matching. There  is minimal  difference. So  is
> it  that  if  we  lose  node  then  there  is  possibility  of  data  loss
> and  can’t  prevent  it  for  in  memory cluster? Cluster has  6 nodes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> *From:* Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
> *To:* Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>
> *Cc:* user@ignite.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite
> .net node
>
>
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation -
> ptupitsyn@apache.org Do not click on links, open attachments, or respond
> unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is safe.
>
> Hi Satyajit,
>
>
>
> > ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in
> another  node  and  not  in  same  node
>
> No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions
> always reside on a different node.
>
> To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more
> backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the
> cluster).
>
>
>
> - AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads
> multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
>
> - If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider
> RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
>
> [2]
> https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
>
> [3]
> https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:
>
> Hi  Pavel,
>
>
>
> We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in
> one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache
> store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for
> others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches
> how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a
> particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.
> Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for
> in  memory  caches.
>
>
>
> Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> Barclays Execution Services Limited registered in England. Registered No.
> 1767980. Registered office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP
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RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by "satyajit.mandal.barclays.com via user" <us...@ignite.apache.org>.
Hi  Pavel,

The  cluster  consist  of  some  caches  using  Native  persistence  and  some  caches  connected  to external  cache  store. BackUp = 1 is  set  for  every  cache.
I  checked  the  count  of  cache  connected  to  external  cache  store  once  it  was  prepopulated and  then stopping  one  node. Ignite  is  running  as  .NET  Embedded  Service.

Am using  Jolokia  to  connect  to  Ignite JMX  metrics  as  Rest  Api and  checking  counts? Any  thoughts or  alternate way to  check  count?

Regards
Satyajit

From: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN)
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:36 AM
To: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org
Subject: RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Hi  Pavel,

I  am  using  JMX Metrics  to  count  the  cache  entries.

Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:34 AM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org<ma...@ignite.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


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With 1 backup and 1 node loss there should not be any data loss. How do you count the entries?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:00 AM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi Pavel,

We  did  testing  with  BackUp = 1  and  with  WriteSynchronizationMode  as  PrimarySync  as  well  as  FullSync  we  found  that  when  we  are  stopping  one  node and  comparing  the  count we observed  that  count  of  cache  size  is not  matching. There  is minimal  difference. So  is  it  that  if  we  lose  node  then  there  is  possibility  of  data  loss and  can’t  prevent  it  for  in  memory cluster? Cluster has  6 nodes.


Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org<ma...@ignite.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


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Hi Satyajit,

> ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node
No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions always reside on a different node.
To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the cluster).

- AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
- If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]

[1] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
[2] https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
[3] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi  Pavel,

We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for  others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.  Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for  in  memory  caches.


Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)



Regards

Satyajit


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RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by "satyajit.mandal.barclays.com via user" <us...@ignite.apache.org>.
Hi  Pavel,

I  am  using  JMX Metrics  to  count  the  cache  entries.

Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:34 AM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


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With 1 backup and 1 node loss there should not be any data loss. How do you count the entries?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:00 AM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi Pavel,

We  did  testing  with  BackUp = 1  and  with  WriteSynchronizationMode  as  PrimarySync  as  well  as  FullSync  we  found  that  when  we  are  stopping  one  node and  comparing  the  count we observed  that  count  of  cache  size  is not  matching. There  is minimal  difference. So  is  it  that  if  we  lose  node  then  there  is  possibility  of  data  loss and  can’t  prevent  it  for  in  memory cluster? Cluster has  6 nodes.


Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org<ma...@ignite.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


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Hi Satyajit,

> ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node
No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions always reside on a different node.
To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the cluster).

- AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
- If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]

[1] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
[2] https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
[3] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi  Pavel,

We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for  others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.  Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for  in  memory  caches.


Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)



Regards

Satyajit


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Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>.
With 1 backup and 1 node loss there should not be any data loss. How do you
count the entries?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:00 AM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:

> Hi Pavel,
>
>
>
> We  did  testing  with  BackUp = 1  and  with  WriteSynchronizationMode
> as  PrimarySync  as  well  as  FullSync  we  found  that  when  we  are
> stopping  one  node and  comparing  the  count we observed  that  count
> of  cache  size  is not  matching. There  is minimal  difference. So  is
> it  that  if  we  lose  node  then  there  is  possibility  of  data  loss
> and  can’t  prevent  it  for  in  memory cluster? Cluster has  6 nodes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> *From:* Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
> *To:* Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>
> *Cc:* user@ignite.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite
> .net node
>
>
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation -
> ptupitsyn@apache.org Do not click on links, open attachments, or respond
> unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is safe.
>
> Hi Satyajit,
>
>
>
> > ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in
> another  node  and  not  in  same  node
>
> No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions
> always reside on a different node.
>
> To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more
> backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the
> cluster).
>
>
>
> - AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads
> multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
>
> - If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider
> RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
>
> [2]
> https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
>
> [3]
> https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com> wrote:
>
> Hi  Pavel,
>
>
>
> We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in
> one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache
> store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for
> others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches
> how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a
> particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.
> Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for
> in  memory  caches.
>
>
>
> Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Satyajit
>
>
>
> Barclays Execution Services Limited registered in England. Registered No.
> 1767980. Registered office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP
>
> Barclays Execution Services Limited provides support and administrative
> services across Barclays group. Barclays Execution Services Limited is an
> appointed representative of Barclays Bank UK plc, Barclays Bank plc and
> Clydesdale Financial Services Limited. Barclays Bank UK plc and Barclays
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RE: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node

Posted by "satyajit.mandal.barclays.com via user" <us...@ignite.apache.org>.
Hi Pavel,

We  did  testing  with  BackUp = 1  and  with  WriteSynchronizationMode  as  PrimarySync  as  well  as  FullSync  we  found  that  when  we  are  stopping  one  node and  comparing  the  count we observed  that  count  of  cache  size  is not  matching. There  is minimal  difference. So  is  it  that  if  we  lose  node  then  there  is  possibility  of  data  loss and  can’t  prevent  it  for  in  memory cluster? Cluster has  6 nodes.


Regards
Satyajit

From: Pavel Tupitsyn <pt...@apache.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Mandal, Satyajit: IT (PUN) <sa...@barclays.com>>
Cc: user@ignite.apache.org<ma...@ignite.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Data consistency in Ignite and BackUp Filter in Ignite .net node


CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation - ptupitsyn@apache.org<ma...@apache.org> Do not click on links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is safe.
Hi Satyajit,

> ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node
No need to do anything, this is the default behavior: backup partitions always reside on a different node.
To put it another way: every partition has a primary node and one or more backup nodes. All those nodes are different (given enough nodes in the cluster).

- AffinityBackupFilter is for complex use cases when the cluster spreads multiple racks or availability zones [1] [2]
- If you have multiple nodes per machine, consider RendezvousAffinityFunction.ExcludeNeighbors property [3]

[1] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1Gy5PdsLM3siGkM23?h=cO_QJLdrtzTxbFFZGD0aLyUUsqezz5X0GCiXSjqzYYg=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.Rendezvous.ClusterNodeAttributeAffinityBackupFilter.html>
[2] https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution#backup-filter<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM67AMrFYvkzhdpJkAf?h=-Jbv1-ZUpqMUY2xn5IJddtZ2wk_5th5Uy1TKW0AfIqU=&u=https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/developers-guide/configuring-caches/managing-data-distribution%23backup-filter>
[3] https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html#Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors<https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sLvSmnw2Bjw73njBwsR?h=AdE7UMHeKx0TYXHG0iydrlc2PuNzZ7b4z1rZN_ZVUjw=&u=https://ignite.apache.org/releases/latest/dotnetdoc/api/Apache.Ignite.Core.Cache.Affinity.AffinityFunctionBase.html%23Apache_Ignite_Core_Cache_Affinity_AffinityFunctionBase_ExcludeNeighbors>

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:02 PM <sa...@barclays.com>> wrote:
Hi  Pavel,

We are  running  6  node cluster  with  Active Active  setup. 3  nodes  in one  Datacenter  and  3  in  another datacenter with  external  cache store  enabled  for  some caches  and  native  persistence  enabled  for  others.  Now  if  we  want  to  setup  backup  = 1  for  in memory  caches how  that  should  be  done  to  ensure  backup partitions  of  a  particular  node  is  created  in another  node  and  not  in  same  node.  Also  is  there  any specific settings  to  ensure data  consistency  for  in  memory  caches.


Can you  also  share  how  this settings can  be  achieved  in  Ignite(.NET) ( AffinityBackupFilter in RendezvousAffinityFunction)



Regards

Satyajit


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