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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> on 2014/02/02 19:42:26 UTC
Recording in background (no user dialog)
Dear all,
we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation
uses the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it
is possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow
for this?
As always, many thanks to your replies.
regards,
Rene'
--
~~~~~~~
*Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
#: ++49-(0)-1781408041
@:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
//:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de>.
Dear Maxime,
no worries, happy about any reply from you (no matter when :))!
Ok, got it! I was on the wrong track ... sure, Java must be started
(with all the hazzle of additional script/dialog/user interaction)!
Maybe we can get it in the background in one of the OM versions to come.
regards to the whole crew,
Rene'
~~~~~~~
*Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
#: ++49-(0)-1781408041
@:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
//:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 2/7/2014 4:54 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Sorry for keeping silence, really busy these days
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> According to Sebastian's investigations grabbing screen with flash is very
>> slow, very slow and very unstable.
>> It is possible to record all video streams, but WB will be lost
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> no further answers, so lets rephrase the problem:
>>> What does prevent me from detecting the screen resolution, set the
>>> recording params to capture the whole screen, and record the screen (of
>>> cause without using an external script as currently applied for desktop
>>> sharing/recording)?
>>> Any help is highly appreciated,
>>>
>>> Rene'
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~
>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> On 2/3/2014 12:19 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>> thanks for the quick response! Does this mean it is possible for all
>>>> rooms, but requires larger efforts? Where do these efforts come from? What
>>>> is the current recording approach; grapping and recording the screen? If
>>>> so, is this only possible by asking the user for permission?
>>>> What is the problem with the interview room? Has it a special setup?
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Rene'
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~
>>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/2014 3:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in
>>>>> interview
>>>>> room it can be enabled)
>>>>> but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos from
>>>>> all
>>>>> parties
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation
>>>>>> uses
>>>>>> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
>>>>>> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
>>>>>> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> As always, many thanks to your replies.
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Rene'
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~
>>>>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>>>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>>>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>>>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>>>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>>>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Sorry for keeping silence, really busy these days
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> According to Sebastian's investigations grabbing screen with flash is very
> slow, very slow and very unstable.
> It is possible to record all video streams, but WB will be lost
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> no further answers, so lets rephrase the problem:
>> What does prevent me from detecting the screen resolution, set the
>> recording params to capture the whole screen, and record the screen (of
>> cause without using an external script as currently applied for desktop
>> sharing/recording)?
>> Any help is highly appreciated,
>>
>> Rene'
>>
>> ~~~~~~~
>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> On 2/3/2014 12:19 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>> thanks for the quick response! Does this mean it is possible for all
>>> rooms, but requires larger efforts? Where do these efforts come from? What
>>> is the current recording approach; grapping and recording the screen? If
>>> so, is this only possible by asking the user for permission?
>>> What is the problem with the interview room? Has it a special setup?
>>> best regards,
>>> Rene'
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~
>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> On 2/3/2014 3:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in
>>>> interview
>>>> room it can be enabled)
>>>> but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos from
>>>> all
>>>> parties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation
>>>>> uses
>>>>> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
>>>>> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
>>>>> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow
>>>>> for
>>>>> this?
>>>>> As always, many thanks to your replies.
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Rene'
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~
>>>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
According to Sebastian's investigations grabbing screen with flash is very
slow, very slow and very unstable.
It is possible to record all video streams, but WB will be lost
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
> no further answers, so lets rephrase the problem:
> What does prevent me from detecting the screen resolution, set the
> recording params to capture the whole screen, and record the screen (of
> cause without using an external script as currently applied for desktop
> sharing/recording)?
> Any help is highly appreciated,
>
> Rene'
>
> ~~~~~~~
> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> On 2/3/2014 12:19 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>> thanks for the quick response! Does this mean it is possible for all
>> rooms, but requires larger efforts? Where do these efforts come from? What
>> is the current recording approach; grapping and recording the screen? If
>> so, is this only possible by asking the user for permission?
>> What is the problem with the interview room? Has it a special setup?
>> best regards,
>> Rene'
>>
>> ~~~~~~~
>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> On 2/3/2014 3:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>>> It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in interview
>>> room it can be enabled)
>>> but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos from
>>> all
>>> parties
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>> we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation
>>>> uses
>>>> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
>>>> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
>>>> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow
>>>> for
>>>> this?
>>>> As always, many thanks to your replies.
>>>> regards,
>>>> Rene'
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~
>>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de>.
Hi all,
no further answers, so lets rephrase the problem:
What does prevent me from detecting the screen resolution, set the
recording params to capture the whole screen, and record the screen (of
cause without using an external script as currently applied for desktop
sharing/recording)?
Any help is highly appreciated,
Rene'
~~~~~~~
*Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
#: ++49-(0)-1781408041
@:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
//:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 2/3/2014 12:19 PM, Rene' Rosenbaum wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
> thanks for the quick response! Does this mean it is possible for all
> rooms, but requires larger efforts? Where do these efforts come from?
> What is the current recording approach; grapping and recording the
> screen? If so, is this only possible by asking the user for permission?
> What is the problem with the interview room? Has it a special setup?
> best regards,
> Rene'
>
> ~~~~~~~
> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> On 2/3/2014 3:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in
>> interview
>> room it can be enabled)
>> but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos
>> from all
>> parties
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> we want to records each session within OM. The current
>>> implementation uses
>>> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
>>> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
>>> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not
>>> allow for
>>> this?
>>> As always, many thanks to your replies.
>>> regards,
>>> Rene'
>>> --
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~
>>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de>.
Hi Maxim,
thanks for the quick response! Does this mean it is possible for all
rooms, but requires larger efforts? Where do these efforts come from?
What is the current recording approach; grapping and recording the
screen? If so, is this only possible by asking the user for permission?
What is the problem with the interview room? Has it a special setup?
best regards,
Rene'
~~~~~~~
*Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
#: ++49-(0)-1781408041
@:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
//:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 2/3/2014 3:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in interview
> room it can be enabled)
> but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos from all
> parties
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation uses
>> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
>> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
>> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow for
>> this?
>> As always, many thanks to your replies.
>> regards,
>> Rene'
>> --
>>
>> ~~~~~~~
>> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
>> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
>> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
>> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
>> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
>> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>
Re: Recording in background (no user dialog)
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
It is theoretically possible for rooms other than interview (in interview
room it can be enabled)
but you will loose all whiteboard actions and need to merge videos from all
parties
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Rene' Rosenbaum <re...@meecoda.de> wrote:
> Dear all,
> we want to records each session within OM. The current implementation uses
> the sceensharer dialog to start recording. I'm wondering wether it is
> possible to record without letting the user download and execute a
> jnlp-File. Is this possible or do Java security regulations not allow for
> this?
> As always, many thanks to your replies.
> regards,
> Rene'
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~
> *Dr.-Ing. Rene' Rosenbaum
> meeCoda^IT * - Consulting and Services
> ~: Neue Reihe 15, 18182 Goorstorf, Germany
> #: ++49-(0)-1781408041
> @:info@meecoda.de <ma...@meecoda.de>
> //:www.meecoda.de <http://www.meecoda.de>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax