Incubator policy

[Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>]

Hi Matthias,

Sorry, you are absolutely correct.

Craig

On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> can we move these kind of discussions to a new thread?
> This was the original vote thread and it might be hard to keep track
> for those that wanna vote. Feel free to do ;-)
>
> CU in Amsterdam ;)
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 4/4/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 23:58, Craig L Russell wrote:
>> >> On Apr 3, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> >
>> >>> AFAIK, you *must* be on the IPMC to be a mentor.
>> >>
>> >> Actually, according to Incubator policy [1] it's the other way
>> >> around.
>> >> "Upon acceptance by the Incubator PMC, the Podling's Mentor  
>> becomes a
>> >> member of the Incubator PMC (should they not already be one)."
>> >
>> > Doh!! Nit-picking are we ;o)
>>
>> Doh! Nitpicking is one of my specialties.
>>
>> >
>> > I claim complete insanity and temporal lobe confusion since Henning
>> > writes; "As a mentor", which should read as "As a future mentor" or
>> > "As a
>> > mentor candidate"...
>> >
>> > Craig, since I know you are a lot into Incubator docs, either tell
>> > me where to
>> > fix the 'typo' in that paragraph, or change the pluralis forms to;
>>
>> Sadly, the paragraph in question is in the Incubator policy page that
>> is still at [1]. In order to change it, an affirmative VOTE of the
>> IPMC is required. And it's hard to get a vote through... See [2] and
>> [3].
>> >
>> > "the Podling's Mentors become members of the Incubator PMC (should
>> > they not
>> > already be one)."
>> > -----------^^^
>> > Also, can "one" refer to "they" in english?? Should it be "that"
>> > instead?
>>
>> I'd say "Upon acceptance by the Incubator PMC, the Podling's Mentors
>> who are not already members, become members of the Incubator PMC."
>>
>> This needs to be a bigger change than one paragraph. There used to be
>> a mentor, but based on recent discussions in the Incubator, at least
>> three Mentors are recommended. But there's not been a change to the
>> Incubator policy or guides to reflect this.
>>
>> So you (or your designate ;-) will need to change a few places in the
>> Incubator in order to make it consistent. And then file an issue in
>> JIRA and call a VOTE.
>>
>> If you're going to be in Amsterdam for ApacheCon, we could get a
>> quorum of Incubator PMC and get some things done at the Hackathon.
>> Maybe advertise it as an Incubatorthon?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>> [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200702.mbox/%3cAB86702D-F336-4245-BB06-85310F703260@Sun.COM%3e
>> [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200702.mbox/%3c5DF7AFA2-7BA0-4E26-B709-73600114409C@SUN.com%3e
>>
>> > Cheers
>> > Niclas
>> >
>> >  
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>> Craig Russell
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Incubator policy

[robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>]

On 4/4/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Sorry, you are absolutely correct.

+1

> On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

<snip>

> > can we move these kind of discussions to a new thread?
> > This was the original vote thread and it might be hard to keep track
> > for those that wanna vote. Feel free to do ;-)

<snip>

> >> > I claim complete insanity and temporal lobe confusion since Henning
> >> > writes; "As a mentor", which should read as "As a future mentor" or
> >> > "As a
> >> > mentor candidate"...
> >> >
> >> > Craig, since I know you are a lot into Incubator docs, either tell
> >> > me where to
> >> > fix the 'typo' in that paragraph, or change the pluralis forms to;
> >>
> >> Sadly, the paragraph in question is in the Incubator policy page that
> >> is still at [1]. In order to change it, an affirmative VOTE of the
> >> IPMC is required. And it's hard to get a vote through... See [2] and
> >> [3].

+1

energy required, yes but in the end only 3 +1's required

> >> > "the Podling's Mentors become members of the Incubator PMC (should
> >> > they not
> >> > already be one)."
> >> > -----------^^^
> >> > Also, can "one" refer to "they" in english?? Should it be "that"
> >> > instead?
> >>
> >> I'd say "Upon acceptance by the Incubator PMC, the Podling's Mentors
> >> who are not already members, become members of the Incubator PMC."

+1

> >> This needs to be a bigger change than one paragraph. There used to be
> >> a mentor, but based on recent discussions in the Incubator, at least
> >> three Mentors are recommended. But there's not been a change to the
> >> Incubator policy or guides to reflect this.
> >>
> >> So you (or your designate ;-) will need to change a few places in the
> >> Incubator in order to make it consistent. And then file an issue in
> >> JIRA and call a VOTE.

+1

submit a patch :-)

> >> If you're going to be in Amsterdam for ApacheCon, we could get a
> >> quorum of Incubator PMC and get some things done at the Hackathon.
> >> Maybe advertise it as an Incubatorthon?

+1

- robert

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