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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by "Fenlason, Josh" <jf...@ptc.com> on 2006/08/29 17:53:53 UTC
Apache with SSL Problem
I'm running into a strange problem running Apache 2.0.59 with SSL on
Windows 2003. I built it with Visual Studio 2005. It runs fine without
SSL. When I try to startup with SSL enabled, it tries to startup for
several seconds and then stops. Nothing useful is output to the logs or
console. It binds to the HTTP and HTTPS ports while it's trying to
startup. The best I've been able to narrow this down to so far is that
it works when .Net 2.0 Framework is installed and it doesn't when .Net
2.0 Framework is uninstalled. I've opened Apache.exe with
DependecyWalker, to see if there are any dll issues, and as far as I can
tell the output is the same when Apache works and doesn't work.
Has anyone else had any issues running Apache with SSL built with VS
2005? I'm building a redistributable binary and don't want to require
installing .Net 2.0 Framework in order to use my Apache. If anyone has
any thoughts or suggestions, I would be extremely grateful. Thanks in
advance.
,
Josh.
Re: Apache with SSL Problem
Posted by Steffen <in...@apachelounge.com>.
Like to share my expeience with VC2005
With the Ms run-time libaries there should not be any issue, see link. I build all the stuff with VC2005 including third party mods and till now not any problem seen from XP to Vista regarding MSVCRT conflicts. Note: All mods I build with VC2005 are working fine with the Apache .msi distribution which is build with VC6, this includes mod_perl build with VC2005.
www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=32BC1BEE-A3F9-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE&displaylang=en
You do not really need this form MS,you can also inlude in you distro only msvcrt80.dll and manifest files for your exec files . In fact I did that in the beginning of VC2005, at that time there was not the above distro from MS (was released in April 2006)
And there are ways to integrate the needed .dll's in a setup program. Quit some companies begin to use VC2005 and integrating the needed .dlls or above MS binary distro in their setup. For example Logitech does it in his software. One drawback is that it is not supported for old Windows versions like 95 and 98 etc.
So no need to install the huge .NET 2.0 framework.
Steffen
----- Original Message -----
From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>
To: <de...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 21:47
Subject: Re: Apache with SSL Problem
> Fenlason, Josh wrote:
>> I just recently discovered, as you already knew, that the MSVC++
>> Redistributable will resolve my issue. That's nice because it's a small
>> download, but it's still something I would like to avoid if at all possible.
>> I've built everything with VC 2005, httpd-2.0.59 and OpenSSL0.9.8b.
>
> ROFL - then MSVC 2005 isn't what you want.
>
> Modern windows all ship with the MSVCRT corresponding to VC 6, bets are off
> on all later versions. If you have an install/packaging helper, it probably
> knew of .NET and .NET 2003 flavors of the MSVCR7 libs, but you will need
> to update it so it can handle the dependencies for .NET 2005 c/c++ libs.
>
> Worse, .NET 2005 introduces SxS assemblies, which you must install support
> for. Both .NET 2.0 and the runtime you tried probably both add this support.
>
Re: Apache with SSL Problem
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Fenlason, Josh wrote:
> I just recently discovered, as you already knew, that the MSVC++
> Redistributable will resolve my issue. That's nice because it's a small
> download, but it's still something I would like to avoid if at all possible.
> I've built everything with VC 2005, httpd-2.0.59 and OpenSSL0.9.8b.
ROFL - then MSVC 2005 isn't what you want.
Modern windows all ship with the MSVCRT corresponding to VC 6, bets are off
on all later versions. If you have an install/packaging helper, it probably
knew of .NET and .NET 2003 flavors of the MSVCR7 libs, but you will need
to update it so it can handle the dependencies for .NET 2005 c/c++ libs.
Worse, .NET 2005 introduces SxS assemblies, which you must install support
for. Both .NET 2.0 and the runtime you tried probably both add this support.
RE: Apache with SSL Problem
Posted by "Fenlason, Josh" <jf...@ptc.com>.
I just recently discovered, as you already knew, that the MSVC++
Redistributable will resolve my issue. That's nice because it's a small
download, but it's still something I would like to avoid if at all
possible.
I've built everything with VC 2005, httpd-2.0.59 and OpenSSL0.9.8b.
Thanks for the feedback.
,
Josh.
________________________________
From: Steffen [mailto:info@apachelounge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:17 PM
To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache with SSL Problem
Mostly you get an error in the Windows event viewer with this
kind of issues.
See the install instructions in my distribution at
http://www.apachelounge.com/download . I have only reports that this SSL
2.2.3 distribution is working fine on eg. XP and 2003 with or without
.Net 2.0 installed. I build the same way also 2.0.59, and that is also
working fine.
You can contact me OL.
Btw.
When you build openssl also with VC2005, then use OpenSSL/0.9.8b
+ , then the needed manifest files are included in the OpenSSL dll's and
.exec.
Steffen
----- Original Message -----
From: Fenlason, Josh <ma...@ptc.com>
To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 17:53
Subject: Apache with SSL Problem
I'm running into a strange problem running Apache 2.0.59
with SSL on Windows 2003. I built it with Visual Studio 2005. It runs
fine without SSL. When I try to startup with SSL enabled, it tries to
startup for several seconds and then stops. Nothing useful is output to
the logs or console. It binds to the HTTP and HTTPS ports while it's
trying to startup. The best I've been able to narrow this down to so
far is that it works when .Net 2.0 Framework is installed and it doesn't
when .Net 2.0 Framework is uninstalled. I've opened Apache.exe with
DependecyWalker, to see if there are any dll issues, and as far as I can
tell the output is the same when Apache works and doesn't work.
Has anyone else had any issues running Apache with SSL
built with VS 2005? I'm building a redistributable binary and don't
want to require installing .Net 2.0 Framework in order to use my Apache.
If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, I would be extremely
grateful. Thanks in advance.
,
Josh.
Re: Apache with SSL Problem
Posted by Steffen <in...@apachelounge.com>.
Mostly you get an error in the Windows event viewer with this kind of issues.
See the install instructions in my distribution at http://www.apachelounge.com/download . I have only reports that this SSL 2.2.3 distribution is working fine on eg. XP and 2003 with or without .Net 2.0 installed. I build the same way also 2.0.59, and that is also working fine.
You can contact me OL.
Btw.
When you build openssl also with VC2005, then use OpenSSL/0.9.8b + , then the needed manifest files are included in the OpenSSL dll's and .exec.
Steffen
----- Original Message -----
From: Fenlason, Josh
To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 17:53
Subject: Apache with SSL Problem
I'm running into a strange problem running Apache 2.0.59 with SSL on Windows 2003. I built it with Visual Studio 2005. It runs fine without SSL. When I try to startup with SSL enabled, it tries to startup for several seconds and then stops. Nothing useful is output to the logs or console. It binds to the HTTP and HTTPS ports while it's trying to startup. The best I've been able to narrow this down to so far is that it works when .Net 2.0 Framework is installed and it doesn't when .Net 2.0 Framework is uninstalled. I've opened Apache.exe with DependecyWalker, to see if there are any dll issues, and as far as I can tell the output is the same when Apache works and doesn't work.
Has anyone else had any issues running Apache with SSL built with VS 2005? I'm building a redistributable binary and don't want to require installing .Net 2.0 Framework in order to use my Apache. If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, I would be extremely grateful. Thanks in advance.
,
Josh.