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Valid languages for projects.apache.org

There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in the
current valid list.

These are:

BASH/Bash
Freemarker
Haxe
JDBC
ODBC
SQL
XML

Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
Shell languages.
Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
the classification.
SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages

WDYT?

Sebb

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Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
I agree too. Mxml has been around for sometime but it is specific to certain PMCs and is more a file format like Yaml.

I wonder more about how we classify projects and project product based on whether or not the system consists of components and/or a service. Language makes more sense for describing components. But this a different discussion.

Best,
Dave

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sebb, MXML is an XML _vocabulary_.
> 
> Gary
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 9:55 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Royale uses significant numbers of MXML files in applications. Is
>>> that sufficiently different from XML that we should add it?
>> 
>> AFAICT MXML is a domain-specific superset of XML.
>> I don't think that deserves a separate language category.
>> 
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>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:31 AM Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that.
>>>> 
>>>> The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in
>> the
>>>>> current valid list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> These are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> BASH/Bash
>>>>> Freemarker
>>>>> Haxe
>>>>> JDBC
>>>>> ODBC
>>>>> SQL
>>>>> XML
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
>>>>> Shell languages.
>>>>> Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
>>>>> Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
>>>>> JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
>>>>> the classification.
>>>>> SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sebb
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Editor-Writer, The Apache Software Foundation <https://apache.org/>
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Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Sebb, MXML is an XML _vocabulary_.

Gary

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 9:55 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Apache Royale uses significant numbers of MXML files in applications. Is
> > that sufficiently different from XML that we should add it?
>
> AFAICT MXML is a domain-specific superset of XML.
> I don't think that deserves a separate language category.
>
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> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:31 AM Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that.
> > >
> > > The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-)
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in
> the
> > > > current valid list.
> > > >
> > > > These are:
> > > >
> > > > BASH/Bash
> > > > Freemarker
> > > > Haxe
> > > > JDBC
> > > > ODBC
> > > > SQL
> > > > XML
> > > >
> > > > Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
> > > > Shell languages.
> > > > Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
> > > > Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
> > > > JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
> > > > the classification.
> > > > SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > Sebb
> > > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apache Royale uses significant numbers of MXML files in applications. Is
> that sufficiently different from XML that we should add it?

AFAICT MXML is a domain-specific superset of XML.
I don't think that deserves a separate language category.

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> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:31 AM Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that.
> >
> > The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-)
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in the
> > > current valid list.
> > >
> > > These are:
> > >
> > > BASH/Bash
> > > Freemarker
> > > Haxe
> > > JDBC
> > > ODBC
> > > SQL
> > > XML
> > >
> > > Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
> > > Shell languages.
> > > Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
> > > Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
> > > JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
> > > the classification.
> > > SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > Sebb
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
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> Editor-Writer, The Apache Software Foundation <https://apache.org/>

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Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
Apache Royale uses significant numbers of MXML files in applications. Is
that sufficiently different from XML that we should add it?

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On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:31 AM Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that.
>
> The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-)
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in the
> > current valid list.
> >
> > These are:
> >
> > BASH/Bash
> > Freemarker
> > Haxe
> > JDBC
> > ODBC
> > SQL
> > XML
> >
> > Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
> > Shell languages.
> > Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
> > Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
> > JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
> > the classification.
> > SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Sebb
> >
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> >
> >
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Editor-Writer, The Apache Software Foundation <https://apache.org/>

Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that.

The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-)

Gary


On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in the
> current valid list.
>
> These are:
>
> BASH/Bash
> Freemarker
> Haxe
> JDBC
> ODBC
> SQL
> XML
>
> Whilst we could add Bash, we might then need to add all the other
> Shell languages.
> Freemarker is a templating language; could be added
> Haxe is a valid language; could perhaps be added
> JDBC and ODBC are not languages; I think they should be dropped from
> the classification.
> SQL and XML can perhaps be considered languages
>
> WDYT?
>
> Sebb
>
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