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[jira] Created: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
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                 Key: WICKET-1369
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
             Project: Wicket
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: site
         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
            Priority: Minor


The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.

1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?

2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"

3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.


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[jira] Resolved: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Gerolf Seitz (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Gerolf Seitz resolved WICKET-1369.
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    Resolution: Fixed

done. (site needs to be synced)

> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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[jira] Commented: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Kevin Murphy (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12572216#action_12572216 ] 

Kevin Murphy commented on WICKET-1369:
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Another TODO item for this page: the existing Caveats section seems to be obsolete.  I just generated my pom.xml, and the junit dependency is already in it.

Might as well make the process seem as friendly and professionally documented as possible ....


> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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[jira] Assigned: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Igor Vaynberg (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Igor Vaynberg reassigned WICKET-1369:
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    Assignee: Gerolf Seitz

> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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[jira] Commented: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Gerolf Seitz (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Gerolf Seitz commented on WICKET-1369:
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ad 1) 
see Igor's comment

ad 2) 
i wouldn't say the mavenish terms should be replaced, but "Project name" and "Base Package Path" could be put in parenthesis.
users will probably have to deal with maven sooner or later, so it's better to use the terminology right from the beginning.

ad 3) i will add the links.

> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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[jira] Commented: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Igor Vaynberg (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12572127#action_12572127 ] 

Igor Vaynberg commented on WICKET-1369:
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i think having version as a dropdown is the best. newcomers wont know what to put there without doing some research, and we should default the version box to the latest stable release.

> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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[jira] Commented: (WICKET-1369) Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers

Posted by "Kevin Murphy (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Kevin Murphy commented on WICKET-1369:
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I understand, Igor.  I suggest that the "Version" label should read "Wicket version".


> Bug on Wicket Quick Start web page - negative impact on newcomers
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WICKET-1369
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1369
>             Project: Wicket
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: site
>         Environment: Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows XP
>            Reporter: Kevin Murphy
>            Assignee: Gerolf Seitz
>            Priority: Minor
>   Original Estimate: 0.25h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0.25h
>
> The Maven command-line generation form gives a rather suboptimal impression to the newcomer.
> 1) The Version select widget does not allow the user to type in an arbitrary version number.  In fact, why is this even a menu at all?  Shouldn't it ust be a plain text box?
> 2) It would be much slicker if the GroupId and especially ArtifactId labels were more descriptive for those unfamiliar with Maven.  "ArtifactId" should certainly be "Project name".  GroupId should be something else, not sure what.  "Package path?"
> 3) In the second paragraph, "Maven 2" should be a link to the Maven download page.

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