You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Al Byers <by...@automationgroups.com> on 2007/01/09 22:20:29 UTC
Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this question - is
there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other mechanism so that
multiple requests could be made within the context of a single WebTest and
have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to be the
nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
-Al
Re: Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
Posted by Al Byers <by...@automationgroups.com>.
I figure I might as well jump in with both feet. At a minimum I might get a
lesson in basic transaction control.
The obvious problem with long transactions in a web environment is that
UserTransaction only deals with the current thread, but TransactionManager
has getTransaction and resume methods. Does that open the door for getting a
transaction object, saving it in a session and restoring it to the current
thread when the user comes back?
-Al
On 1/9/07, Al Byers <by...@automationgroups.com> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> I was purposely vague in an attempt to hide the fact that I don't know
> what I am talking about. I was thinking of something earlier in the request
> handling process. The ContextFilter gets specified in the web.xml file and
> I thought maybe something could be done in a custom filter to keep track of
> an umbrella transaction.
>
> -Al
>
> On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert < tim.ruppert@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't we have to mirror everything going on in the controller
> > files to do that? And, since I'm ignorant on this topic, how do we
> > get the transactions to span all the services that would be caused by
> > each of the calls?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Ruppert
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > o:801.649.6594
> > f:801.649.6595
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Al Byers wrote:
> >
> > > What if we went as far as to send all testing requests thru a custom
> > > controller or handler - is there anything along those lines that
> > > could be
> > > done?
> > >
> > > -Al
> > >
> > > On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert <tim.ruppert@hotwaxmedia.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> As far as I know, there is nothing that you can do from the outside
> > >> that turns off your internal transaction management. SOA apps are
> > >> not the easiest to test :)
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Tim
> > >> --
> > >> Tim Ruppert
> > >> HotWax Media
> > >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> > >>
> > >> o:801.649.6594
> > >> f:801.649.6595
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Al Byers wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this
> > >> > question - is
> > >> > there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other
> > >> > mechanism so that
> > >> > multiple requests could be made within the context of a single
> > >> > WebTest and
> > >> > have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to
> > >> > be the
> > >> > nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
> > >> > reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
> > >> >
> > >> > -Al
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
Posted by Al Byers <by...@automationgroups.com>.
Tim,
I was purposely vague in an attempt to hide the fact that I don't know what
I am talking about. I was thinking of something earlier in the request
handling process. The ContextFilter gets specified in the web.xml file and I
thought maybe something could be done in a custom filter to keep track of an
umbrella transaction.
-Al
On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't we have to mirror everything going on in the controller
> files to do that? And, since I'm ignorant on this topic, how do we
> get the transactions to span all the services that would be caused by
> each of the calls?
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Al Byers wrote:
>
> > What if we went as far as to send all testing requests thru a custom
> > controller or handler - is there anything along those lines that
> > could be
> > done?
> >
> > -Al
> >
> > On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As far as I know, there is nothing that you can do from the outside
> >> that turns off your internal transaction management. SOA apps are
> >> not the easiest to test :)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tim
> >> --
> >> Tim Ruppert
> >> HotWax Media
> >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>
> >> o:801.649.6594
> >> f:801.649.6595
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Al Byers wrote:
> >>
> >> > I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this
> >> > question - is
> >> > there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other
> >> > mechanism so that
> >> > multiple requests could be made within the context of a single
> >> > WebTest and
> >> > have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to
> >> > be the
> >> > nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
> >> > reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
> >> >
> >> > -Al
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Wouldn't we have to mirror everything going on in the controller
files to do that? And, since I'm ignorant on this topic, how do we
get the transactions to span all the services that would be caused by
each of the calls?
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Al Byers wrote:
> What if we went as far as to send all testing requests thru a custom
> controller or handler - is there anything along those lines that
> could be
> done?
>
> -Al
>
> On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>> As far as I know, there is nothing that you can do from the outside
>> that turns off your internal transaction management. SOA apps are
>> not the easiest to test :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Al Byers wrote:
>>
>> > I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this
>> > question - is
>> > there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other
>> > mechanism so that
>> > multiple requests could be made within the context of a single
>> > WebTest and
>> > have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to
>> > be the
>> > nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
>> > reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
>> >
>> > -Al
>>
>>
>>
Re: Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
Posted by Al Byers <by...@automationgroups.com>.
What if we went as far as to send all testing requests thru a custom
controller or handler - is there anything along those lines that could be
done?
-Al
On 1/9/07, Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, there is nothing that you can do from the outside
> that turns off your internal transaction management. SOA apps are
> not the easiest to test :)
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Al Byers wrote:
>
> > I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this
> > question - is
> > there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other
> > mechanism so that
> > multiple requests could be made within the context of a single
> > WebTest and
> > have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to
> > be the
> > nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
> > reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
> >
> > -Al
>
>
>
Re: Thought on webtesting - rolling back transactions
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
As far as I know, there is nothing that you can do from the outside
that turns off your internal transaction management. SOA apps are
not the easiest to test :)
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
On Jan 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Al Byers wrote:
> I was just thinking about testing and thought I would ask this
> question - is
> there a way to incorporate long transactions or some other
> mechanism so that
> multiple requests could be made within the context of a single
> WebTest and
> have all those transactions rolled back at the end? That seems to
> be the
> nice thing about jUnit tests and I was wondering if there was some
> reasonable way to do it for tests that are run over the net?
>
> -Al