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[Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Hello,

I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.

Here is the icons that need to be updated:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons

Related asset:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher

You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
let us know if you have trouble)

I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
November 9th, 2013.
Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
optimizing for the best user experience.

This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
consensus without a end user vote.
eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case
because it is the face of AOO.

Samer Mansour

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

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> the start center completely
> or let it stand


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment
> already but my preference would be
> 1. drop it completely or
> 2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant
> at the moment

I wouldn't drop it completely since it's good to have the Apache 
attribution on the splash screen, so that users who do not know about 
Apache can at least have a hint while opening OpenOffice and reading 
"The Apache Software Foundation".

But I agree that the feather should be made smaller, and the text is 
confused and too dark with the current grey colors we use. Maybe 
something like the header of http://www.apache.org/ ?

Feather (smaller in proportion) + text "The Apache Software Foundation"

with the text written in grey instead of black.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Guenter Marxen <gu...@googlemail.com>.

Am 18.10.2013 14:51, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment
> already but my preference would be
>
> 1. drop it completely or

plus: ... members of the OpenOffice community.

and perhaps (compare with "Help, Info"):

"Copyright ... The A... S... F..."

-- 
Grüße

Günter Marxen


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.

Am 10/18/2013 02:51 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 10/18/13 2:44 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Andrea,
>>
>> I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket.
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491
>>
>> If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it.
>
> we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment
> already but my preference would be
>
> 1. drop it completely or
> 2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant
> at the moment

A link is indeed not useful in this dialog. However, I would leave the 
graphic - with a smaller size.

Marcus



>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491>
>>>>>
>>>> we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand
>>>> alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our
>>>> typical user is lost on the first shot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully
>>> displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the
>>> feather with "[The] Apache Software Foundation" text only.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Also, the About screen says:
>>>>> "This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
>>>>> I think that should say:
>>>>> "This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice
>>>> community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache
>>>> OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but
>>>> nothing else, at least not to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, "OpenOffice" can
>>> suffice in this context.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>    Andrea.

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 10/18/13 2:44 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Andrea,
> 
> I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket.
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491
> 
> If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it.

we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment
already but my preference would be

1. drop it completely or
2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant
at the moment

Juergen

> 
> Samer Mansour
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:
> 
>> On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491>
>>>>
>>> we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand
>>> alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our
>>> typical user is lost on the first shot.
>>>
>>
>> Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully
>> displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the
>> feather with "[The] Apache Software Foundation" text only.
>>
>>
>>  Also, the About screen says:
>>>> "This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
>>>> I think that should say:
>>>> "This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".
>>>>
>>> I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice
>>> community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache
>>> OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but
>>> nothing else, at least not to me.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, "OpenOffice" can
>> suffice in this context.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Andrea,

I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491

If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it.

Samer Mansour


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote:
>>
>>> The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491>
>>>
>> we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand
>> alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our
>> typical user is lost on the first shot.
>>
>
> Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully
> displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the
> feather with "[The] Apache Software Foundation" text only.
>
>
>  Also, the About screen says:
>>> "This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
>>> I think that should say:
>>> "This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".
>>>
>> I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice
>> community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache
>> OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but
>> nothing else, at least not to me.
>>
>
> Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, "OpenOffice" can
> suffice in this context.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.

On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote:
>> The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491
> we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand
> alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our
> typical user is lost on the first shot.

Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully 
displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the 
feather with "[The] Apache Software Foundation" text only.

>> Also, the About screen says:
>> "This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
>> I think that should say:
>> "This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".
> I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice
> community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache
> OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but
> nothing else, at least not to me.

Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, "OpenOffice" 
can suffice in this context.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 10 October 2013 04:01, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>
>> Related asset:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> 
> The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491

we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand
alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our
typical user is lost on the first shot.

> 
> Also, the About screen says:
> 
> "This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
> I think that should say:
> "This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".

I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice
community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache
OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but
nothing else, at least not to me.

We have made more than enough attribution to Apache compared to other
projects and there related products.

I talk most often about OpenOffice and not Apache OpenOffice and that
will never change.

Just my opinion

Juergen

> 
>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
>> November 9th, 2013.
>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
>> consensus without a end user vote.
>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case
>> because it is the face of AOO.
>>
>> Samer Mansour
> 
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 10 October 2013 04:01, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>
> Related asset:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher

The Splash screen needs some changes; please see:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491

Also, the About screen says:

"This product was created by the OpenOffice community".
I think that should say:
"This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community".

> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
>
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
> November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
>
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case
> because it is the face of AOO.
>
> Samer Mansour

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by "Chris R (GenGen)" <ch...@gmail.com>.

Hi Samer,
great work!
I can only support the idea to adapt the icons to the new v4 flat logo
style.
AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round) looks very nice! I definitely would
drop the gulls.
For small icons it is not easy to decide if rounded or squared (without
background) is better.
I would suggest to simplify icons at smaller sizes (under 32px and
smaller?), meaning drop lines from the Writer icon, less lines for Calc,
etc. (more similar to Kevin Grignon's style then)
Other ideas: for Draw icon drop the border and use only triangle, square
and circle (maybe better contrast with the yellow, similar to Base icon).
I wish you good creative work!
Chris

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 10/10/13 11:26 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Andrea,
> 
> I wasn't aware of that perspective. Thanks!
> Ok I will/lets try to make a solution where its more clear what those three
> buttons are for.
> I agree if users are confused where to find templates or extensions that is
> a problem.
> 
> I'll prioritize that after the icons are completed. I'll submit some ideas
> onto
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcherwhile
> I am waiting for the Nov 9th deadline for icons to pass.

we should for now concentrate on the visual refresh, the content is a
separate topic that needs further discussion and in more detail. We can
use the space much better in the future but we also need the resources
to implement it.

I can think of preview of the most often used templates,
bookmarks/preview of the most often used documents to easy access them
with one click from the start center. Maybe a new feed etc. Many more
ideas come into my mind.

But agian the content is a separate topic from my perspective

Juergen

> 
> Samer
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:
> 
>> On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.
>>>
>>
>> Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative!
>>
>> There is one detail in
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
>> that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three
>> buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to
>> Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide
>> them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or
>> the Extensions/Templates sites.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Andrea,

I wasn't aware of that perspective. Thanks!
Ok I will/lets try to make a solution where its more clear what those three
buttons are for.
I agree if users are confused where to find templates or extensions that is
a problem.

I'll prioritize that after the icons are completed. I'll submit some ideas
onto
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcherwhile
I am waiting for the Nov 9th deadline for icons to pass.

Samer

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.
>>
>
> Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative!
>
> There is one detail in
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
> that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three
> buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to
> Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide
> them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or
> the Extensions/Templates sites.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Andrea,

I wasn't aware of that perspective. Thanks!
Ok I will/lets try to make a solution where its more clear what those three
buttons are for.
I agree if users are confused where to find templates or extensions that is
a problem.

I'll prioritize that after the icons are completed. I'll submit some ideas
onto
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcherwhile
I am waiting for the Nov 9th deadline for icons to pass.

Samer

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.
>>
>
> Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative!
>
> There is one detail in
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
> that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three
> buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to
> Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide
> them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or
> the Extensions/Templates sites.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.

On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.

Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative!

There is one detail in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three 
buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and 
to Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to 
hide them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official 
site or the Extensions/Templates sites.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Vladislav Stevanovic <st...@gmail.com>.

 Keep the same (or similar) colors as in existed icons: that will help for
easier visual recognising icons by the purpose.

Wlada


2013/10/10 Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>

> I'm working on one more idea where I don't use a background.
> Using a background circle or square requires you to have padding inside
> before you can draw in it.
>
> It was a eureka moment "these icons at 16x16 and 32x32 would look a lot
> bigger and crisper if I didn't have them inside a circle or square"
> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.
>
> As for the about dialog box, I think that is low priority, as it is a big
> improvement from 3.x.
> We have some other areas where we can make a bigger impact visually.
> If there is another area of the application that you feel needs a refresh
> let us know, ie font dialog, .
>
> Samer
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Armin Le Grand <Armin.Le.Grand@me.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> 4.1
> >>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >
> >>>
> >>> Related asset:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >> +1 for my side for the proposal.
> >>
> >>
> >>  You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> suggest
> >>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> >>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
> list,
> >>> let us know if you have trouble)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles.
> >> Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles.
> >>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons -
> like
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Best regards, Oliver.
> >>
> >>  I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> >>> days,
> >>> November 9th, 2013.
> >>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> >>> optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>>
> >>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> >>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> 9th
> >>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> reach
> >>> consensus without a end user vote.
> >>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> >>> case
> >>> because it is the face of AOO.
> >>>
> >>> Samer Mansour
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.

On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
> When I have my last idea posted you will understand.

Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative!

There is one detail in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three 
buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and 
to Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to 
hide them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official 
site or the Extensions/Templates sites.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I'm working on one more idea where I don't use a background.
Using a background circle or square requires you to have padding inside
before you can draw in it.

It was a eureka moment "these icons at 16x16 and 32x32 would look a lot
bigger and crisper if I didn't have them inside a circle or square"
When I have my last idea posted you will understand.

As for the about dialog box, I think that is low priority, as it is a big
improvement from 3.x.
We have some other areas where we can make a bigger impact visually.
If there is another area of the application that you feel needs a refresh
let us know, ie font dialog, .

Samer


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Armin Le Grand <Ar...@me.com>wrote:

> On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>>
>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons>
>>>
>>> Related asset:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
>>>
>>>
>> +1 for my side for the proposal.
>>
>>
>>  You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>
>>>
>> I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles.
>> Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles.
>>
>
> +1
>
> I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - like
> ;-)
>
>
>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>>  I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>> days,
>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>
>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>>> case
>>> because it is the face of AOO.
>>>
>>> Samer Mansour
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I'm working on one more idea where I don't use a background.
Using a background circle or square requires you to have padding inside
before you can draw in it.

It was a eureka moment "these icons at 16x16 and 32x32 would look a lot
bigger and crisper if I didn't have them inside a circle or square"
When I have my last idea posted you will understand.

As for the about dialog box, I think that is low priority, as it is a big
improvement from 3.x.
We have some other areas where we can make a bigger impact visually.
If there is another area of the application that you feel needs a refresh
let us know, ie font dialog, .

Samer


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Armin Le Grand <Ar...@me.com>wrote:

> On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>>
>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons>
>>>
>>> Related asset:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
>>>
>>>
>> +1 for my side for the proposal.
>>
>>
>>  You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>
>>>
>> I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles.
>> Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles.
>>
>
> +1
>
> I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - like
> ;-)
>
>
>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>>  I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>> days,
>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>
>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>>> case
>>> because it is the face of AOO.
>>>
>>> Samer Mansour
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Armin Le Grand <Ar...@me.com>.

On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>
> On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons 
>>
>>
>> Related asset:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher 
>>
>>
>
> +1 for my side for the proposal.
>
>
>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also 
>> suggest
>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing 
>> list,
>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>
>
> I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. 
> Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles.

+1

I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - 
like ;-)

>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 
>> days,
>> November 9th, 2013.
>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
>> consensus without a end user vote.
>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a 
>> special case
>> because it is the face of AOO.
>>
>> Samer Mansour
>>
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.


On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>
> Related asset:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>

+1 for my side for the proposal.


> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
>

I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. 
Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles.

Best regards, Oliver.

> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
> November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
>
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case
> because it is the face of AOO.
>
> Samer Mansour
>

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de>.

Hi,

that sounds like a good idea. I think that the icons on the user 
interface of OOO could use some refreshment as well. They haven't 
changed since version 2.x and are looking a bit "dusty" by now. OOO 
could use a more modern look!

Max


Am 10.10.2013 05:53, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>> done.
>>
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>
>> Related asset:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>
>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
>> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
>>
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
>> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
>>
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
>> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
>> face of AOO.
>>
>> Samer Mansour
> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
> version looked nicer than the current one
>
> Old version:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
>
> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png
>
> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to
> restart the application).
>
>
> Regards


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>.

Thanks for the response Samer - will follow up from here on using the
comments on the wiki page.

Best wishes,

//drew


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here is another stab where I keep the gulls in the logo, scroll down to
> october 15th.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>
> These are high contrast.  You can desaturate them and they are still
> distinguishable.
>
> Samer Mansour
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Howdy Samer, et al
> >
> > Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the
> > responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons -
> > particularly as depicted in Win 8.
> >
> > Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath.
> >
> > Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic
> > value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I
> suppose
> > can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources.
> >
> > Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast
> or
> > would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-)  would need to also
> > produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected?
> >
> > Thanks for your work here, very much so
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge <pe...@gmx.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> > >>> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> > >>> done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > >>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > I like the flat icons very much.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>> Related asset:
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> > >>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> > >>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> > >>> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> > >>> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
> > >>>
> > >>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> > >>> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
> > >>> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
> regular,
> > >>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> > >>> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
> to
> > >>> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
> > >>> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
> > >>> face of AOO.
> > >>>
> > >>> Samer Mansour
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the
> old
> > >> version looked nicer than the current one
> > >>
> > >> Old version:
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.png<
> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png>
> > >>
> > >> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**png<
> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Looks very nice.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> > >> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.png<
> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png>(there is no need to
> > >> restart the application).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Hello,

Here is another stab where I keep the gulls in the logo, scroll down to
october 15th.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons

These are high contrast.  You can desaturate them and they are still
distinguishable.

Samer Mansour

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Howdy Samer, et al
>
> Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the
> responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons -
> particularly as depicted in Win 8.
>
> Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath.
>
> Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic
> value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I suppose
> can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources.
>
> Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast or
> would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-)  would need to also
> produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected?
>
> Thanks for your work here, very much so
>
> //drew
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge <pe...@gmx.org> wrote:
>
> > On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> >>> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> >>> done.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >
> >>>
> >>
> > I like the flat icons very much.
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Related asset:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> >>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >
> >>>
> >>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> >>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> >>> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> >>> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
> >>>
> >>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> >>> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
> >>> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>>
> >>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> >>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> >>> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> >>> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
> >>> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
> >>> face of AOO.
> >>>
> >>> Samer Mansour
> >>>
> >>
> >> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
> >> version looked nicer than the current one
> >>
> >> Old version:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.png<
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png>
> >>
> >> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**png<
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png>
> >>
> >
> > Looks very nice.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> >> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> >> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.png<
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png>(there is no need to
> >> restart the application).
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Drew Jensen <dr...@gmail.com>.

Howdy Samer, et al

Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the
responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons -
particularly as depicted in Win 8.

Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath.

Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic
value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I suppose
can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources.

Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast or
would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-)  would need to also
produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected?

Thanks for your work here, very much so

//drew


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge <pe...@gmx.org> wrote:

> On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>>> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>> done.
>>>
>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons>
>>>
>>
> I like the flat icons very much.
>
>
>
>>> Related asset:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher>
>>>
>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
>>> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
>>>
>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
>>> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>
>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>>> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
>>> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
>>> face of AOO.
>>>
>>> Samer Mansour
>>>
>>
>> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
>> version looked nicer than the current one
>>
>> Old version:
>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.png<http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png>
>>
>> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**png<http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png>
>>
>
> Looks very nice.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
>> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
>> http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.png<http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png>(there is no need to
>> restart the application).
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Peter Junge <pe...@gmx.org>.

On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>> done.
>>
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons

I like the flat icons very much.

>>
>> Related asset:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>
>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
>> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
>>
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
>> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
>>
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
>> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
>> face of AOO.
>>
>> Samer Mansour
>
> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
> version looked nicer than the current one
>
> Old version:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
>
> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png

Looks very nice.

Peter

>
> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to
> restart the application).
>
>
> Regards
>

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by akshika akalanka <ak...@gmail.com>.

I would like to help with the documentation. Where can i start??
On Oct 10, 2013 9:24 AM, "Ariel Constenla-Haile" <ar...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> > 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> > done.
> >
> > Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >
> > Related asset:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >
> > You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> > suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> > visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> > this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
> >
> > I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> > days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
> > a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
> >
> > This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> > needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> > 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> > reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
> > what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
> > face of AOO.
> >
> > Samer Mansour
>
> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
> version looked nicer than the current one
>
> Old version:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
>
> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png
>
> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to
> restart the application).
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 10/10/13 5:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>> AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see
>> this gets done.
>> 
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>
>>
>> 
Related asset:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>
>>
>> 
You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page
>> or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply
>> ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
>> 
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in
>> 30 days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will
>> have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user
>> experience.
>> 
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>> regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>> deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable
>> solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote.
>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>> special case because it is the face of AOO.
>> 
>> Samer Mansour
> 
> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the
> old version looked nicer than the current one
> 
> Old version: 
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
> 
> Current one, removing the orb from the header: 
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png
> 
> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the
> program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with
> this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there
> is no need to restart the application).

+1, I believe you can simply replace it and if somebody has further
ideas to improve the about dialog it's fine and we can discuss it.

Juergen

> 
> 
> Regards
> 


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> > 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> > done.
> >
> > Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >
> > Related asset:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >
> > You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> > suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> > visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> > this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
> >
> > I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> > days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
> > a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
> >
> > This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> > needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> > 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> > reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
> > what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
> > face of AOO.
> >
> > Samer Mansour
>
> The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
> version looked nicer than the current one
>
> Old version:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
>
> Current one, removing the orb from the header:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png
>
> To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
> folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to
> restart the application).
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

@Ariel

I see what you mean about this. Maybe too many "orbs" in the About dialog.
The revised one does seem better.


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> done.
> 
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> 
> Related asset:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> 
> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble)
> 
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> days, November 9th, 2013.  Once we reach the deadline, we will have
> a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience.
> 
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> reach consensus without a end user vote.  eg. We will not be doing
> what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the
> face of AOO.
> 
> Samer Mansour

The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old
version looked nicer than the current one

Old version:
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png

Current one, removing the orb from the header:
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png

To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program
folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to
restart the application).


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.

Reply in-line.

circulars@gmx.com wrote:
> If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in
> Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It
> is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what
> the attributes are.

The icon is already available, just use the customize option. I have
sent you  a pm illustrating the necessary selections.

> At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then
> choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item.

In the default "Format" menu there is a "Paragraph..." option to open
the paragraph style dialog.

> Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of
> days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train.

Dave



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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.

On Wed, May 14 circulars@gmx.com wrote:

> If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer
> to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only
> foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are.
>
> At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing
> 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item.

This isn't accurate: Paragraph is availabe from Format > Paragraph... (as
in Office). And, there IS an option to add the paragraph button, if you use
it allot, by pressing the "more" triangle in the Formatting toolbar >
Visible Buttons. There, choose Paragraph button (last).

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by ci...@gmx.com.

If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in  
Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It  
is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what  
the attributes are.

At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then  
choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item.

Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of  
days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train.


On 13 May 2014, at 15:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> On 30/04/14 09:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>> I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't  
>>>> between two
>>>> pixels and look blurry.
>>>> Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the  
>>>> different
>>>> output types.
>>>>
>>>> I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to  
>>>> complete the
>>>> icons in the two months, which never happened.
>>>> This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one  
>>>> icon each
>>>> night.
>>>> I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish.
>>>>
>>>> Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about  
>>>> generating
>>>> assets.
>>>
>>> ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit  
>>> out of
>>> time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place.
>>>
>>> I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and  
>>> see how
>>> the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in  
>>> the
>>> overall picture and potentially we have to change more ...
>>> But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to
>>> integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should  
>>> immediately
>>> continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify,
>>> improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release.
>>>
>>> We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always  
>>> sensible
>>> and many different people have many different opinions.
>>>
>>> I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as  
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com 
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
>>>>>>>> uploading a
>>>>>>>> new copy shortly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical  
>>>>>>>> pixels
>>>>> per
>>>>>>>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we  
>>>>>>>> figure out the
>>>>>>>> icons.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the  
>>>>>>>> release,
>>>>>>>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we  
>>>>>>>> need that
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be a great help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you  
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>> the svg's that others can help as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and  
>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in  
>>>>>>> default_images
>>>>>>> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have  
>>>>>>> icons in
>>>>>>> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try  
>>>>>>> to include
>>>>>>> them for AOO 4.1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you share the svg files asap?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>
>> Hi Samer,
>>
>> now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and
>> integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will  
>> give us
>> enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the  
>> icons
>> where necessary and to do proper testing.
>>
>> Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes  
>> svg
>> is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor
>> changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src
>> files for any images that other have the chance later to work them.  
>> The
>> experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do
>> minor changes.
>>
>> I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new  
>> icons in
>> place.
>
> Hi Samer,
>
> I was on vacation and potentially you have already answered and it is
> still queued in the mail backlog who knows (great disaster) but can  
> you
> give me an update where we are. Do you have plans and time to continue
> working on this?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Juergen
>
>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 30/04/14 09:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>> I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two
>>> pixels and look blurry.
>>> Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different
>>> output types.
>>>
>>> I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the
>>> icons in the two months, which never happened.
>>> This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each
>>> night.
>>> I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish.
>>>
>>> Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating
>>> assets.
>>
>> ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of
>> time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place.
>>
>> I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how
>> the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the
>> overall picture and potentially we have to change more ...
>> But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to
>> integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately
>> continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify,
>> improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release.
>>
>> We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible
>> and many different people have many different opinions.
>>
>> I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Samer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
>>>>>>> uploading a
>>>>>>> new copy shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels
>>>> per
>>>>>>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
>>>>>>> icons.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
>>>>>>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be a great help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
>>>>>> the svg's that others can help as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
>>>>>> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
>>>>>> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
>>>>>> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
>>>>>> them for AOO 4.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you share the svg files asap?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
> 
> Hi Samer,
> 
> now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and
> integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us
> enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons
> where necessary and to do proper testing.
> 
> Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg
> is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor
> changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src
> files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The
> experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do
> minor changes.
> 
> I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in
> place.

Hi Samer,

I was on vacation and potentially you have already answered and it is
still queued in the mail backlog who knows (great disaster) but can you
give me an update where we are. Do you have plans and time to continue
working on this?

Kind regards

Juergen


> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two
>> pixels and look blurry.
>> Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different
>> output types.
>>
>> I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the
>> icons in the two months, which never happened.
>> This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each
>> night.
>> I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish.
>>
>> Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating
>> assets.
> 
> ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of
> time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place.
> 
> I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how
> the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the
> overall picture and potentially we have to change more ...
> But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to
> integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately
> continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify,
> improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release.
> 
> We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible
> and many different people have many different opinions.
> 
> I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible.
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
>>
>> Samer
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
>>>>>> uploading a
>>>>>> new copy shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels
>>> per
>>>>>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
>>>>>> icons.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
>>>>>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be a great help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
>>>>> the svg's that others can help as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
>>>>> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
>>>>> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
>>>>> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>>>>>
>>>>> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
>>>>> them for AOO 4.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you share the svg files asap?
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>

Hi Samer,

now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and
integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us
enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons
where necessary and to do proper testing.

Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg
is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor
changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src
files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The
experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do
minor changes.

I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in
place.

Juergen






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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two
> pixels and look blurry.
> Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different
> output types.
> 
> I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the
> icons in the two months, which never happened.
> This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each
> night.
> I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish.
> 
> Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating
> assets.

ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of
time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place.

I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how
the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the
overall picture and potentially we have to change more ...
But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to
integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately
continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify,
improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release.

We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible
and many different people have many different opinions.

I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible.

Juergen


> 
> Samer
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
>>>>> uploading a
>>>>> new copy shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels
>> per
>>>>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
>>>>> icons.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
>>>>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that
>>>>> would
>>>>> be a great help.
>>>>
>>>> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
>>>> the svg's that others can help as well.
>>>>
>>>> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
>>>> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
>>>> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
>>>> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>>>>
>>>> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
>>>> them for AOO 4.1.
>>>>
>>>> Can you share the svg files asap?
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>
>>> Juergen --
>>>
>>> It looks like there are  svg items included in the zip files --
>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need.
>>
>> I have seen this but the file type icons are not complete, only impress
>> and math are available.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Samer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
>>>>>>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons
>> sizes/formats
>>>>>>> needed to finish this before the next release.
>>>>>>> Anyone know when the next release is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   cwiki is back up now
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the
>> final
>>>>>>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the
>> icons.
>>>>>>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower
>> left
>>>>>>>> corner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly
>>>>>> stupid)
>>>>>> question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
>>>>>> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
>>>>>> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Sorry about this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki
>>>>>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products
>>>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac,
>>>>>>>>>> and what
>>>>>>>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer --
>>>>>>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>>>>>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>>>>>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>>>>>> <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're
>>>>>>>>>>>> flying by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   squeeze it
>>>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher
>> prio.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is
>>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
>>>>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>>>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   (from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> branding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    that in mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   32x32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   context.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
>>>>>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    day
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons
>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   AOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    4.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   regular,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    9th
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   reach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two
pixels and look blurry.
Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different
output types.

I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the
icons in the two months, which never happened.
This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each
night.
I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish.

Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating
assets.

Samer


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
> >>> uploading a
> >>> new copy shortly.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels
> per
> >>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
> >>> icons.)
> >>>
> >>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
> >>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that
> >>> would
> >>> be a great help.
> >>
> >> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
> >> the svg's that others can help as well.
> >>
> >> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
> >> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
> >> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
> >> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
> >>
> >> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
> >> them for AOO 4.1.
> >>
> >> Can you share the svg files asap?
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >
> > Juergen --
> >
> > It looks like there are  svg items included in the zip files --
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886
> >
> >
> > I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need.
>
> I have seen this but the file type icons are not complete, only impress
> and math are available.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Samer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
> >>>>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons
> sizes/formats
> >>>>> needed to finish this before the next release.
> >>>>> Anyone know when the next release is?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   cwiki is back up now
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
> >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>>>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the
> final
> >>>>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the
> icons.
> >>>>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower
> left
> >>>>>> corner.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly
> >>>> stupid)
> >>>> question:
> >>>>
> >>>> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
> >>>> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
> >>>> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2
> >>>> part
> >>>> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Andre
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Samer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   Sorry about this situation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki
> >>>>>>>> seems to
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products
> >>>>>>>> directly
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
> >>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
> >>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
> >>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
> >>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
> >>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
> >>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
> >>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
> >>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
> >>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac,
> >>>>>>>> and what
> >>>>>>>> ever else we need.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Hi Samer --
> >>>>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
> >>>>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
> >>>>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
> >>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> >>>>>>> <jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a
> >>>>>>>>>> lot of
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>   pressure
> >>>>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're
> >>>>>>>>>> flying by
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
> >>>>>>>>>>> priorities
> >>>>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>   squeeze it
> >>>>>>>>>> in.
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher
> prio.
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is
> >>>>>>>>> interested
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
> >>>>>>>>> office
> >>>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   Juergen
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> >>>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
> >>>>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   (from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   )
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle
> >>>>>>>>>>> branding.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>      When
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> icons,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   keep
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    that in mind.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file
> >>>>>>>>>>> icon at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   32x32
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being
> >>>>>>>>>>> dedicated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   context.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set
> >>>>>>>>>>>> myself a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
> >>>>>>>>>> propose
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> move forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    day
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or
> >>>>>>>>>>> images.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons
> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   AOO
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    4.1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this
> >>>>>>>>>>> gets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   Related asset:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   suggest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> mailing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    list,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    days,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   regular,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    9th
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   reach
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   special
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    case because it is the face of AOO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
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> >>>>>>> MzK
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and
>>> uploading a
>>> new copy shortly.
>>>
>>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per
>>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
>>> icons.)
>>>
>>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
>>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that
>>> would
>>> be a great help.
>>
>> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
>> the svg's that others can help as well.
>>
>> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
>> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
>> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
>> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>>
>> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
>> them for AOO 4.1.
>>
>> Can you share the svg files asap?
>>
>> Juergen
> 
> Juergen --
> 
> It looks like there are  svg items included in the zip files --
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886
> 
> 
> I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need.

I have seen this but the file type icons are not complete, only impress
and math are available.

Juergen


> 
> 
>>
> 
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Samer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
>>>>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
>>>>> needed to finish this before the next release.
>>>>> Anyone know when the next release is?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   cwiki is back up now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
>>>>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
>>>>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
>>>>>> corner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly
>>>> stupid)
>>>> question:
>>>>
>>>> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
>>>> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
>>>> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
>>>>
>>>> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2
>>>> part
>>>> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Samer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Sorry about this situation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki
>>>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products
>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac,
>>>>>>>> and what
>>>>>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer --
>>>>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>>>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>>>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>>>> <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   pressure
>>>>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're
>>>>>>>>>> flying by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
>>>>>>>>>>> priorities
>>>>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   squeeze it
>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is
>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
>>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   (from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle
>>>>>>>>>>> branding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      When
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> icons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    that in mind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file
>>>>>>>>>>> icon at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   32x32
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being
>>>>>>>>>>> dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   context.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set
>>>>>>>>>>>> myself a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
>>>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    day
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or
>>>>>>>>>>> images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   AOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    4.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this
>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    list,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    days,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   regular,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    9th
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   reach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> -------------
>>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>>>>>>    for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>>>>>>                                          -- James Mason
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.


On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a
>> new copy shortly.
>>
>> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per
>> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
>> icons.)
>>
>> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
>> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would
>> be a great help.
>
> I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
> the svg's that others can help as well.
>
> As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
> images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
> and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
> sysui as *.ico and *.icns
>
> Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
> them for AOO 4.1.
>
> Can you share the svg files asap?
>
> Juergen

Juergen --

It looks like there are  svg items included in the zip files --

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886

I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need.


 >

>
>
>>
>> Samer
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
>>>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
>>>> needed to finish this before the next release.
>>>> Anyone know when the next release is?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   cwiki is back up now
>>>>>
>>>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
>>>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
>>>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
>>>>> corner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly stupid)
>>> question:
>>>
>>> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
>>> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
>>> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
>>>
>>> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part
>>> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Samer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Sorry about this situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>>>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi Samer --
>>>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   pressure
>>>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
>>>>>>>>>> priorities
>>>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   squeeze it
>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   (from
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      When
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
>>>>>>>>>>>> icons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   keep
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    that in mind.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   32x32
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   context.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
>>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    day
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   AOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    4.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    list,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    days,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   regular,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    9th
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   reach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------
>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>>>>>    for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>>>>>                                          -- James Mason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a
> new copy shortly.
> 
> Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per
> inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
> icons.)
> 
> I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
> Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would
> be a great help.

I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide
the svg's that others can help as well.

As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the
images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images
and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in
sysui as *.ico and *.icns

Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include
them for AOO 4.1.

Can you share the svg files asap?

Juergen


> 
> Samer
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
>>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
>>> needed to finish this before the next release.
>>> Anyone know when the next release is?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  cwiki is back up now
>>>>
>>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
>>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
>>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
>>>> corner.
>>>>
>>>
>> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly stupid)
>> question:
>>
>> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
>> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
>> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
>>
>> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part
>> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Samer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sorry about this situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Samer --
>>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  pressure
>>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
>>>>>>>>> priorities
>>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  squeeze it
>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  (from
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     When
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
>>>>>>>>>>> icons,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  keep
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   that in mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  32x32
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  context.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   day
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  AOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   4.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   list,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   days,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  regular,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>>>>>>>>>>> deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   9th
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  reach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -------------
>>>>> MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>>>>   for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>>>>                                         -- James Mason
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a
new copy shortly.

Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per
inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the
icons.)

I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release,
Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would
be a great help.

Samer


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
>> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
>> needed to finish this before the next release.
>> Anyone know when the next release is?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  cwiki is back up now
>>>
>>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
>>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
>>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
>>> corner.
>>>
>>
> Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly stupid)
> question:
>
> - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background
> color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other
> applications, I assume this is a mistake.
>
> - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part
> of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?
>
> Regards,
> Andre
>
>
>
>>> Samer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Sorry about this situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to
>>>>> be
>>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>>>
>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Samer --
>>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>   On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  pressure
>>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my
>>>>>>>> priorities
>>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  squeeze it
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the
>>>>>> office
>>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  (from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     When
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file
>>>>>>>>>> icons,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  keep
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   that in mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  32x32
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  context.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and
>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  30
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as
>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  AOO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   4.1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   list,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   days,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  regular,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the
>>>>>>>>>> deadline
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   9th
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  reach
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> -------------
>>>> MzK
>>>>
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>>>>   for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>>>                                         -- James Mason
>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.

On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote:
> I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
> I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
> needed to finish this before the next release.
> Anyone know when the next release is?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> cwiki is back up now
>>
>> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
>> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
>> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
>> corner.

Samer, thanks for your work.  I have one remark and one (possibly 
stupid) question:

- The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background 
color.  As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other 
applications, I assume this is a mistake.

- Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part 
of some of the icons mean?  Is that a Mac thing?

Regards,
Andre

>>
>> Samer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry about this situation.
>>>>
>>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
>>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>>
>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>
>>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>>> ever else we need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Samer --
>>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.
>>>
>>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>   On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pressure
>>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> squeeze it
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    When
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>   that in mind.
>>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 32x32
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>>>   to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>   day
>>>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AOO
>>>>>>   4.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>>>   attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>   list,
>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>   days,
>>>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>>>>   needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>   9th
>>>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>>>>   case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---------
>>>>>
>>>>>>   To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>>   for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>>                                         -- James Mason
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
needed to finish this before the next release.
Anyone know when the next release is?


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> cwiki is back up now
>
> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
> corner.
>
> Samer
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry about this situation.
>>>
>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>
>>> icon_16x16.png
>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>> icon_32x326.png
>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>> icon_128x128.png
>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>> icon_256x256.png
>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>> icon_512x512.png
>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>
>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>> ever else we need.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Samer --
>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.
>>
>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>
>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>
>>>>> pressure
>>>>
>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>
>>>>> squeeze it
>>>>
>>>>> in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>
>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>
>>>>> )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   When
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>>>  that in mind.
>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 32x32
>>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>
>>>>>  to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>
>>>>>  day
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AOO
>>>>
>>>>>  4.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>
>>>>>  attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>
>>>>>  list,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>
>>>>>  days,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>
>>>>>  9th
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---------
>>>>
>>>>>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>  for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>                                        -- James Mason
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults.
I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats
needed to finish this before the next release.
Anyone know when the next release is?


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> cwiki is back up now
>
> I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final
> pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
> Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
> corner.
>
> Samer
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry about this situation.
>>>
>>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
>>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>>
>>> icon_16x16.png
>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>> icon_32x326.png
>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>> icon_128x128.png
>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>> icon_256x256.png
>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>> icon_512x512.png
>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>
>>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>>> ever else we need.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Samer --
>> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources
>> people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
>> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.
>>
>> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>>
>> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>>
>>>>> pressure
>>>>
>>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>>
>>>>> squeeze it
>>>>
>>>>> in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>
>>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>>>> as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>
>>>>> )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   When
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>
>>>>>  that in mind.
>>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 32x32
>>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reminder
>>>>
>>>>>  to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>
>>>>>  day
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AOO
>>>>
>>>>>  4.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>>
>>>>>  attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>
>>>>>  list,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>
>>>>>  days,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>
>>>>>  9th
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---------
>>>>
>>>>>  To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>  for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>                                        -- James Mason
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

cwiki is back up now

I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel
tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
corner.

Samer


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> Sorry about this situation.
>>
>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>
>> icon_16x16.png
>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>> icon_32x326.png
>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>> icon_128x128.png
>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>> icon_256x256.png
>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>> icon_512x512.png
>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>
>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>> ever else we need.
>>
>>
> Hi Samer --
> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.orgarea somewhere so we could get to them?
> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.
>
> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>
> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>
>>>> pressure
>>>
>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>
>>>> squeeze it
>>>
>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>
>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>>> as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>
>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   When
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> keep
>>>
>>>> that in mind.
>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32x32
>>>
>>>> has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>
>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reminder
>>>
>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>
>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AOO
>>>
>>>> 4.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>
>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>
>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>
>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>
>>>> 9th
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

cwiki is back up now

I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel
tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons.
Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left
corner.

Samer


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>
>> Sorry about this situation.
>>
>> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
>> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>>
>> icon_16x16.png
>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>> icon_32x326.png
>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>> icon_128x128.png
>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>> icon_256x256.png
>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>> icon_512x512.png
>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>
>> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
>> ever else we need.
>>
>>
> Hi Samer --
> Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.orgarea somewhere so we could get to them?
> We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.
>
> I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.
>
> Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>>>>>
>>>> pressure
>>>
>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
>>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>>>>>
>>>> squeeze it
>>>
>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>
>>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
>>>> for keeping us updated
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>>> as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
>>> attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&
>>> modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>
>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   When
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> keep
>>>
>>>> that in mind.
>>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32x32
>>>
>>>> has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>>
>>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reminder
>>>
>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>
>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <
>>>>>>>>>> samer519@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AOO
>>>
>>>> 4.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>> AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> visually by
>>>
>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>
>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>
>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>
>>>> 9th
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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>  for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>                                        -- James Mason
>
>
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>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.

On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Sorry about this situation.
>
> I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
> down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly
>
> icon_16x16.png
> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
> icon_32x326.png
> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
> icon_128x128.png
> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
> icon_256x256.png
> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
> icon_512x512.png
> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>
> Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
> ever else we need.
>

Hi Samer --
Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources 
people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them?
We can do the rendering once we have the ".svg" files without any problem.

I think Jürgen is on vacation this week.

Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates.


>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
>> pressure
>>>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
>>>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>>>
>>>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>>>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
>> squeeze it
>>>> in.
>>>
>>> Hi Samer,
>>>
>>> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
>>> for keeping us updated
>>
>> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>>
>> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
>> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
>> as soon as possible.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>>   When
>>>>> the
>>>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
>> keep
>>>>>> that in mind.
>>>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
>> 32x32
>>>>> has
>>>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to
>>>>> the
>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>>>
>>>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>>>
>>>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>>>
>>>>> icon_16x16.png
>>>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>>>> icon_32x326.png
>>>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>>>> icon_128x128.png
>>>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>>>> icon_256x256.png
>>>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>>>> icon_512x512.png
>>>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
>> reminder
>>>>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
>> how
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
>> jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the
>> 30
>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <samer519@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
>> AOO
>>>>>>>> 4.1
>>>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
>> visually by
>>>>>>>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
>> mailing
>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in
>> 30
>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>>>> regular,
>>>>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
>> Nov
>>>>>>>> 9th
>>>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>>>> special
>>>>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Sorry about this situation.

I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be
down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly

icon_16x16.png
icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
icon_32x326.png
icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
icon_128x128.png
icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
icon_256x256.png
icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
icon_512x512.png
icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)

Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what
ever else we need.



On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of
> pressure
> >> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
> >> edge of our seats at this start up.
> >>
> >> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
> >> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to
> squeeze it
> >> in.
> >
> > Hi Samer,
> >
> > no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
> > for keeping us updated
>
> I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?
>
> Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
> continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
> as soon as possible.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
> >>>>
> >>>> (from
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>> )
> >>>>
> >>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.
>  When
> >>> the
> >>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
> >>>>
> >>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons,
> keep
> >>>> that in mind.
> >>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at
> 32x32
> >>> has
> >>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to
> >>> the
> >>>> context.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
> >>>
> >>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
> >>>
> >>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
> >>>
> >>> icon_16x16.png
> >>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
> >>> icon_32x326.png
> >>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
> >>> icon_128x128.png
> >>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
> >>> icon_256x256.png
> >>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
> >>> icon_512x512.png
> >>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a
> reminder
> >>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose
> how
> >>> to
> >>>>> move forward.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the
> 30
> >>>>>> day
> >>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Samer,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
> >>>>>> possible
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <samer519@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for
> AOO
> >>>>>> 4.1
> >>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> >>> done.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Related asset:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> >>>>>> suggest
> >>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or
> visually by
> >>>>>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this
> mailing
> >>>>>> list,
> >>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in
> 30
> >>>>>> days,
> >>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
> >>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> >>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
> >>> regular,
> >>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline
> Nov
> >>>>>> 9th
> >>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> >>>>>> reach
> >>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
> >>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
> >>> special
> >>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure
>> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
>> edge of our seats at this start up.
>>
>> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
>> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to squeeze it
>> in.
> 
> Hi Samer,
> 
> no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
> for keeping us updated

I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct?

Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to
continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office
as soon as possible.

Kind regards

Juergen

> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>>
>>>> (from
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>> )
>>>>
>>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When
>>> the
>>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>>
>>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
>>>> that in mind.
>>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32
>>> has
>>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to
>>> the
>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>>
>>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>>
>>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>>
>>> icon_16x16.png
>>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>>> icon_32x326.png
>>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>>> icon_128x128.png
>>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>>> icon_256x256.png
>>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>>> icon_512x512.png
>>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
>>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how
>>> to
>>>>> move forward.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
>>>>>> day
>>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>>>>>> 4.1
>>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>>> done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>>>>>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>>> regular,
>>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>>>>>> 9th
>>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>>> special
>>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure
> at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
> edge of our seats at this start up.
> 
> I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
> right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to squeeze it
> in.

Hi Samer,

no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks
for keeping us updated

Juergen


> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>> I think I found what we need with the following:
>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
>>>
>>> (from
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>> )
>>>
>>> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When
>> the
>>> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
>>>
>>> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
>>> that in mind.
>>> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32
>> has
>>> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to
>> the
>>> context.
>>>
>>> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>>
>> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>>
>> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>>
>> icon_16x16.png
>> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
>> icon_32x326.png
>> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
>> icon_128x128.png
>> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
>> icon_256x256.png
>> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
>> icon_512x512.png
>> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>>
>>> Samer Mansour
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
>>>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how
>> to
>>>> move forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
>>>>> day
>>>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Samer,
>>>>>
>>>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>>>>> possible
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>>>>> 4.1
>>>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
>> done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>>>>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>>>> days,
>>>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
>> regular,
>>>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>>>>> 9th
>>>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>>>> reach
>>>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
>> special
>>>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure
at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the
edge of our seats at this start up.

I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities
right.  I will have this done before the new year.  Just need to squeeze it
in.


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > I think I found what we need with the following:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
> >
> > (from
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> )
> >
> > The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When
> the
> > application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
> >
> > The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
> > that in mind.
> > I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32
> has
> > 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to
> the
> > context.
> >
> > I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.
>
> just to ensure that we get all sizes we need
>
> The main.icns file on MacOS contains
>
> icon_16x16.png
> icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
> icon_32x326.png
> icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
> icon_128x128.png
> icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
> icon_256x256.png
> icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
> icon_512x512.png
> icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> > Samer Mansour
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
> >> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how
> to
> >> move forward.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
> >>> day
> >>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
> >>>>
> >>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Samer,
> >>>
> >>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
> >>> possible
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
> >>> 4.1
> >>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets
> done.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Related asset:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> >>> suggest
> >>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> >>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
> >>> list,
> >>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> >>> days,
> >>>>> November 9th, 2013.
> >>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> >>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is
> regular,
> >>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
> >>> 9th
> >>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
> >>> reach
> >>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
> >>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a
> special
> >>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Samer Mansour
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> I think I found what we need with the following:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594
> 
> (from
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons)
> 
> The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When the
> application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.
> 
> The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
> that in mind.
> I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32 has
> 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the
> context.
> 
> I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.

just to ensure that we get all sizes we need

The main.icns file on MacOS contains

icon_16x16.png
icon_16x16@2.png (32x32)
icon_32x326.png
icon_32x32@2.png (64x64)
icon_128x128.png
icon_128x128@2.png (256x256)
icon_256x256.png
icon_256x256@2.png (512x512)
icon_512x512.png
icon_512x512@2.png (1024x1024)

Juergen

> 
> Samer Mansour
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
>> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to
>> move forward.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>>>> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
>>> day
>>>> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>>>>
>>>> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>>
>>> Hi Samer,
>>>
>>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>>> possible
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>>> 4.1
>>>>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>>>>
>>>>> Related asset:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>>> suggest
>>>>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>>>>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
>>> list,
>>>>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>>>>
>>>>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>>> days,
>>>>> November 9th, 2013.
>>>>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>>>>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>>>>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>>> 9th
>>>>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>>> reach
>>>>> consensus without a end user vote.
>>>>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>>>>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Fwd: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

Missed marketing list during reply.
- - - - -

I think I found what we need with the following:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594

(from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons)

The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When the
application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.

The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
that in mind.
I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32 has
17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the
context.

I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.

Samer Mansour


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to
> move forward.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> > This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
>> day
>> > window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>> >
>> > After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>
>> Hi Samer,
>>
>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>> possible
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Samer Mansour
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>> 4.1
>> >> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>> >>
>> >> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>> >>
>> >> Related asset:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>> >>
>> >> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>> suggest
>> >> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>> >> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
>> list,
>> >> let us know if you have trouble)
>> >>
>> >> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>> days,
>> >> November 9th, 2013.
>> >> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>> >> optimizing for the best user experience.
>> >>
>> >> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> >> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>> 9th
>> >> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>> reach
>> >> consensus without a end user vote.
>> >> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>> >> case because it is the face of AOO.
>> >>
>> >> Samer Mansour
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I think I found what we need with the following:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6&modificationDate=1385227784594

(from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons)

The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding.  When the
application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull.

The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep
that in mind.
I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons.  The file icon at 32x32 has
17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the
context.

I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half.

Samer Mansour


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder
> to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to
> move forward.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
>> > This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30
>> day
>> > window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>> >
>> > After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>>
>> Hi Samer,
>>
>> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
>> possible
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Samer Mansour
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO
>> 4.1
>> >> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>> >>
>> >> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>> >>
>> >> Related asset:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>> >>
>> >> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
>> suggest
>> >> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>> >> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
>> list,
>> >> let us know if you have trouble)
>> >>
>> >> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
>> days,
>> >> November 9th, 2013.
>> >> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>> >> optimizing for the best user experience.
>> >>
>> >> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> >> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov
>> 9th
>> >> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to
>> reach
>> >> consensus without a end user vote.
>> >> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>> >> case because it is the face of AOO.
>> >>
>> >> Samer Mansour
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to
review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move
forward.


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day
> > window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
> >
> > After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>
> Hi Samer,
>
> any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
> possible
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> > Samer Mansour
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> >> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
> >>
> >> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >>
> >> Related asset:
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >>
> >> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also
> suggest
> >> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> >> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing
> list,
> >> let us know if you have trouble)
> >>
> >> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> days,
> >> November 9th, 2013.
> >> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> >> optimizing for the best user experience.
> >>
> >> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> >> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> >> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> >> consensus without a end user vote.
> >> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> >> case because it is the face of AOO.
> >>
> >> Samer Mansour
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day
> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
> 
> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.

Hi Samer,

any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as
possible

Juergen


> 
> Samer Mansour
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
>> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>>
>> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>>
>> Related asset:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>>
>> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
>> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
>> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
>> let us know if you have trouble)
>>
>> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
>> November 9th, 2013.
>> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
>> optimizing for the best user experience.
>>
>> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
>> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
>> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
>> consensus without a end user vote.
>> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
>> case because it is the face of AOO.
>>
>> Samer Mansour
>>
> 


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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by "Chris R (GenGen)" <ch...@gmail.com>.

I'm not able to comment on the cwiki page so I write here: I still prefer
AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round), because I think the round shape is
enough "branding" and the gulls are not needed. If this remains a minority
preference I would like if at least for small icon sizes the gulls are
dropped. For small icons I now think maintaining the round shape is the
most consistent solution.
I think it is a bit unfortunate that Math has now a strong color with
contrast while the IMO more important Draw with yellow has much less
contrast.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day
> window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.
>
> After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.
>
> Samer Mansour
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> > release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
> >
> > Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> >
> > Related asset:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> >
> > You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> > your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> > attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> > let us know if you have trouble)
> >
> > I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> days,
> > November 9th, 2013.
> > Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> > optimizing for the best user experience.
> >
> > This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> > needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> > arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> > consensus without a end user vote.
> > eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> > case because it is the face of AOO.
> >
> > Samer Mansour
> >
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day
window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.

After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.

Samer Mansour


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>
> Related asset:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>
> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
>
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
> November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
>
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> case because it is the face of AOO.
>
> Samer Mansour
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.

On 10/10/13 5:01 AM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
> 
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> 
> Related asset:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> 
> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
> 
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
> November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
> 
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case
> because it is the face of AOO.
> 


thank you Samer for bringing this up again, I can drop it now from my
list ;-)

I like your proposed approach and will support you and can help with the
final integration.

Juergen

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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.

This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day
window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images.

After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback.

Samer Mansour


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
>
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
>
> Related asset:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
>
> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
>
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days,
> November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
>
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> case because it is the face of AOO.
>
> Samer Mansour
>

Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1

Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.

I agree AOO needs a fresher look and I like there is a stipulated deadline. Will hope to contribute.
-- 
Sent from my Nokia N900

On Wed Oct   9 22:01:09 2013 Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1
> release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done.
> 
> Here is the icons that need to be updated:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons
> 
> Related asset:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher
> 
> You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest
> your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by
> attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list,
> let us know if you have trouble)
> 
> I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30
> days, November 9th, 2013.
> Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for
> optimizing for the best user experience.
> 
> This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular,
> needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th
> arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach
> consensus without a end user vote.
> eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special
> case because it is the face of AOO.
> 
> Samer Mansour