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[OT] a good book for (pre) web design ?
Hi,
I'm looking for a book, that helps/guides me through a website planning.
Explanation will get rather lenghty, so I'm looking for some experienced guy,
I can ask for some ressources.
(* replies please in PM, since i do not want to clutter the mailinglist *)
(* I believe the amount here is enourmourous (?) 100 << mails / day *)
- I have oreily 'Information architecture' which says, you need
- navigation
- meta data
- search
- books about jsp, servlet, xslt
- i know how to use html, ssi and php
But i'm really stuck in planing a new site from scratch.
One thing i'm interested in, is a book, that asks me the right questions,
guides me through the process.
[...] I wrote down many questions, but mainly it boils down to 2 questins:
- How to architect a site ? (Here i have some ideas / help)
- layout
- directory structure
- URL structure (they should not change in the future)
- do's - don'ts
- How do i implement the site (howto combine the tools avaible) ?
(here i'm totally lost, in the sheer amount of things avaible.
they are all good, for the stuff, they were written,
but for most, i can't determine the purpose, and they all seem like
hen-cow-pig soltions (egg, milk & meat) so "one 4 all" solution)
- what tools are avaible, and where are they usefull (strength, weaknesses,
small solution <> enterprise solution, setup time, administration,
stable...)
- content solutions
- static xhtml from xslt
- struts
- jsp & servlets
- metadata manangement for search engines
- database comparison (this was already solved in another email)
Currently I'm very afraid of a redisign or at worst a total relaunch, because
i used the wrong technic - so i want to do things right from the
scratch, or at least try to minimize the number of flaws.
I've been searching for a book, that gives me support for my questions, but
those books i found explain one technics (like jsp, servlet, html,... ) but they do not
tell me, how the combine those.
P.S.: Where is a good place to ask tomcat, jsp, servlet, logging related
questions ?
[OT] is quiet popular here and the answers were always very helpfull to
me, but they do not belong here. Who knows a good community ?
Ciao
Jens Skripczynski
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Re: [OT] a good book for (pre) web design ?
Posted by Bernd Prager <be...@prager.ws>.
----- Original Message -----
...
> 22/02/2003 1:52:35 PM, Jens Skripczynski <sk...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for a book, that helps/guides me through a website planning.
>
> ...
>- i know how to use html, ssi and php
>
>But i'm really stuck in planing a new site from scratch.
>...
Jens,
I have no intention to confuse or scare you but I don't think there's a
book
available that brings you up to speed in web architecture for large or
complex systems
especially if there other legacy or backend systems involved.
If the site you plan to rearchitect is a commercial site that has even a
chance to
become complex do yourself the favor and hire somebody with experience in
this area
and do not get burned as many before did.
Believe me, there is no "how-to" book if it's getting hairy ;-)
Good luck!
-- Bernd
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Re: [OT] a good book for (pre) web design ?
Posted by Vernon Wu <ve...@gatewaytech.com>.
If you intend to employ the J2EE technologies to build a web application, Rod Johnson's
new book, "Expert One on One J2EE Design and Development" shall be a very good resource.
22/02/2003 1:52:35 PM, Jens Skripczynski <sk...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for a book, that helps/guides me through a website planning.
>
>Explanation will get rather lenghty, so I'm looking for some experienced guy,
>I can ask for some ressources.
>
>(* replies please in PM, since i do not want to clutter the mailinglist *)
>(* I believe the amount here is enourmourous (?) 100 << mails / day *)
>
>- I have oreily 'Information architecture' which says, you need
> - navigation
> - meta data
> - search
>- books about jsp, servlet, xslt
>- i know how to use html, ssi and php
>
>But i'm really stuck in planing a new site from scratch.
>
>One thing i'm interested in, is a book, that asks me the right questions,
>guides me through the process.
>
>[...] I wrote down many questions, but mainly it boils down to 2 questins:
>
>- How to architect a site ? (Here i have some ideas / help)
> - layout
> - directory structure
> - URL structure (they should not change in the future)
> - do's - don'ts
>
>- How do i implement the site (howto combine the tools avaible) ?
> (here i'm totally lost, in the sheer amount of things avaible.
> they are all good, for the stuff, they were written,
> but for most, i can't determine the purpose, and they all seem like
> hen-cow-pig soltions (egg, milk & meat) so "one 4 all" solution)
>
> - what tools are avaible, and where are they usefull (strength, weaknesses,
> small solution <> enterprise solution, setup time, administration,
> stable...)
> - content solutions
> - static xhtml from xslt
> - struts
> - jsp & servlets
> - metadata manangement for search engines
> - database comparison (this was already solved in another email)
>
>
>Currently I'm very afraid of a redisign or at worst a total relaunch, because
>i used the wrong technic - so i want to do things right from the
>scratch, or at least try to minimize the number of flaws.
>
>I've been searching for a book, that gives me support for my questions, but
>those books i found explain one technics (like jsp, servlet, html,... ) but they do not
>tell me, how the combine those.
>
>
>P.S.: Where is a good place to ask tomcat, jsp, servlet, logging related
> questions ?
> [OT] is quiet popular here and the answers were always very helpfull to
> me, but they do not belong here. Who knows a good community ?
>
>Ciao
>
>Jens Skripczynski
>--
>E-Mail: skripi(at)myrealbox(dot)com
>
>Gehe Grosse Dinge mit Gelassenheit an. [...] Und nehme kleine Dinge ernst.
> -- aus "Ghost Dog"
>
>
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