You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to community@apache.org by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk> on 2003/08/26 10:36:35 UTC
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
To: <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost
for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> Hi,
>
> who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the
> mailing list program. :-(
>
> Regards
> Henning
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:53:50 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com> wrote:
> David Reid wrote:
> > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> > through your announcement...
>
> unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
> @apache.org address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation
> queue. all other sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam
> measure.
Humhum. I got it! "bin/ezmlm-filter-from-apache".. right?
It only checks the "From: " header line, however, it would be
effective to reject most of the spam mails as you said.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:32:07 +0100
Thom May <th...@planetarytramp.net> wrote:
> Any ASF member can commit to the main www.apache.org website.
Aha, this explained enough. -- member -- oh, that's right.
Thanks for the explanation.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
P.S. Then, I can not figure out the raison d'^etre of
incubator project ... see the top page of this project:
"Since the Incubator project is one of the primary gateways into
Apache involvement, a lot of the documentation about the structural
and philosophical details of the Foundation will probably be
prototyped and developed right here."
... Sure, this is *NOT* related to me, by the way ;-)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Accredited Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument Facilitator)
http://www.hbdi.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Thom May <th...@planetarytramp.net>.
* Tetsuya Kitahata (tetsuya@apache.org) wrote :
>
> > > I nearly agree. One thing: David's suggestion would be related
> > > to the "***-site" issues that occured in infra mailing list?
> >
> > Erm, what issues?
>
> ... "Subject: proposal: $project-site groups for changing www content"
>
No, the two things are totally unrelated.
> > > P.S. Can community@ mailinglist accept [PATCH] mails? One of the
> > > replacements of infra mailing list? ... or ... do we need a talk
> > > about "DOCUMENTATION" TLP? .... not sure.
> > Replacement for the infra mailing list???? Sorry, you've totally lost me
> > now...
>
> I am not sure who are responsible to the management of /www/www.....
> directory (minotaur/daedalus), I mean http://www.apache.org/ website,
> however, I guess Infrastructure Team is in charge of it for now...
> (Right??)
>
Any ASF member can commit to the main www.apache.org website.
If you need to submit patches, i'd suggest using the infrastructure list.
I still don't understand what you were talking about when you said
"replacements of infra mailing list".
-Thom
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:16:52 +0100
(Subject: Re: Make use of announce@)
"David Reid" <da...@jetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > I nearly agree. One thing: David's suggestion would be related
> > to the "***-site" issues that occured in infra mailing list?
>
> Erm, what issues?
... "Subject: proposal: $project-site groups for changing www content"
> > P.S. Can community@ mailinglist accept [PATCH] mails? One of the
> > replacements of infra mailing list? ... or ... do we need a talk
> > about "DOCUMENTATION" TLP? .... not sure.
> Replacement for the infra mailing list???? Sorry, you've totally lost me
> now...
I am not sure who are responsible to the management of /www/www.....
directory (minotaur/daedalus), I mean http://www.apache.org/ website,
however, I guess Infrastructure Team is in charge of it for now...
(Right??)
So, I said "community@ mailinglist accept [PATCH] mails?"
Documents in http://www.apache.org/ are under control of InfraTeam
or Board, I guess.
# Help needed.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Accredited Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument Facilitator)
http://www.hbdi.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
> I nearly agree. One thing: David's suggestion would be related
> to the "***-site" issues that occured in infra mailing list?
Erm, what issues?
> As you know (and I KNOW), there are many people who tend *not* to
> create wiki pages as well as those not to make patches on xdocs :-)
>
> -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
>
> P.S. Can community@ mailinglist accept [PATCH] mails? One of the
> replacements of infra mailing list? ... or ... do we need a talk
> about "DOCUMENTATION" TLP? .... not sure.
Replacement for the infra mailing list???? Sorry, you've totally lost me
now...
david
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
I nearly agree. One thing: David's suggestion would be related
to the "***-site" issues that occured in infra mailing list?
As you know (and I KNOW), there are many people who tend *not* to
create wiki pages as well as those not to make patches on xdocs :-)
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
P.S. Can community@ mailinglist accept [PATCH] mails? One of the
replacements of infra mailing list? ... or ... do we need a talk
about "DOCUMENTATION" TLP? .... not sure.
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:23:05 +0100
(Subject: Re: Make use of announce@)
Thom May <th...@planetarytramp.net> wrote:
> * David Reid (david@jetnet.co.uk) wrote :
> > For the record I don't think it shouldn't be a wiki page, but a page
> > somewhere in the ASF site as it's an informational page. If there are
> > inaccuracies or problems then they should be addressed via the author and
> > this forum, not via wiki :)
> >
> +1.
> -Thom
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: EU Patent vote postponed..
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Danny, ALL
I am glad to hear that. I hasten to express contratulations.
When all the websites in apache.org will rewind as before?
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
P.S. Danny, please use "NEW POST" button or something equivalent to it,
instead.
I can recall my first post to "jakarta-james" (July 2002) mailing list
and I clearly remember that your reply was titled "spam...." :-)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 17:45:15 +0100
(Subject: EU Patent vote postponed..)
"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> Looking at our splash page (and noting the date!) I wondered what had
> happened y'day.. the vote was postponed.
>
> http://www.itworld.com/Man/2687/030901parliament/
>
> Although this article doesn't cite any reason for the delay I have read
> postings that suggest it may be headed back to comittee, and thefore be
> amended, before returning to the plenary session, probably before Christmas,
> but you know what politicians and civil servants are like, could be
> whenever.
>
> d.
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
EU Patent vote postponed..
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Looking at our splash page (and noting the date!) I wondered what had
happened y'day.. the vote was postponed.
http://www.itworld.com/Man/2687/030901parliament/
Although this article doesn't cite any reason for the delay I have read
postings that suggest it may be headed back to comittee, and thefore be
amended, before returning to the plenary session, probably before Christmas,
but you know what politicians and civil servants are like, could be
whenever.
d.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Thom May <th...@planetarytramp.net>.
* David Reid (david@jetnet.co.uk) wrote :
> For the record I don't think it shouldn't be a wiki page, but a page
> somewhere in the ASF site as it's an informational page. If there are
> inaccuracies or problems then they should be addressed via the author and
> this forum, not via wiki :)
>
+1.
-Thom
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
For the record I don't think it shouldn't be a wiki page, but a page
somewhere in the ASF site as it's an informational page. If there are
inaccuracies or problems then they should be addressed via the author and
this forum, not via wiki :)
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tetsuya Kitahata" <te...@apache.org>
To: <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: Make use of announce@
>
> Nice, +1 :-)
>
> It seems that Noel is full of beans with enthusiasm about
> making Apachewiki more substantial, so I hope we can collaborate
> on this project :-) to make for it.
>
> And ... Henning? please please??
>
> -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:48:57 +0100
> "David Reid" <da...@jetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Then perhaps the best solution is for you (or someone else) to write a
> > simple, clear web page detailing all the channels that are typically
used to
> > announce projects. Perhaps also including some summary of the ideas and
> > concerns raised in this thread would be appropriate?
> >
> > david
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
> E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
> http://www.terra-intl.com/
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Nice, +1 :-)
It seems that Noel is full of beans with enthusiasm about
making Apachewiki more substantial, so I hope we can collaborate
on this project :-) to make for it.
And ... Henning? please please??
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:48:57 +0100
"David Reid" <da...@jetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Then perhaps the best solution is for you (or someone else) to write a
> simple, clear web page detailing all the channels that are typically used to
> announce projects. Perhaps also including some summary of the ideas and
> concerns raised in this thread would be appropriate?
>
> david
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: Make use of announce@ (Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org)
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
Then perhaps the best solution is for you (or someone else) to write a
simple, clear web page detailing all the channels that are typically used to
announce projects. Perhaps also including some summary of the ideas and
concerns raised in this thread would be appropriate?
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tetsuya Kitahata" <te...@apache.org>
To: <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: Make use of announce@ (Re: No answer from
announcements@jakarta.apache.org)
>
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
> Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> > > If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> > > announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> > > announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
> > Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message
to
> > let the subscribers of announce@apache.org be aware of such a
> > configuration, so they can decide which list to subscribe to. But even
> > then, ezmlm does not like having one mailing list send to another (as an
> > anti-mail-loop mechanism).
>
> I see. Thank you for the explanation. From my point of view, it is
> reasonable and understandable. I was also anxious about the mail-loop,
> (As I mentioned here in community@) and I think "CC to announce@" would
> be reasonable.
>
> However, I think that jakarta/xml and related (graduated) projects
> did not make use of that mailing list before. I think many (most)
> of the committers in jakarta/xml etc. do not know whether they
> *can* ( = are allowed to ) make use of it or not .... each PMC issue!?
>
> -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Make use of announce@ (Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org)
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> > If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> > announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> > announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
> Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message to
> let the subscribers of announce@apache.org be aware of such a
> configuration, so they can decide which list to subscribe to. But even
> then, ezmlm does not like having one mailing list send to another (as an
> anti-mail-loop mechanism).
I see. Thank you for the explanation. From my point of view, it is
reasonable and understandable. I was also anxious about the mail-loop,
(As I mentioned here in community@) and I think "CC to announce@" would
be reasonable.
However, I think that jakarta/xml and related (graduated) projects
did not make use of that mailing list before. I think many (most)
of the committers in jakarta/xml etc. do not know whether they
*can* ( = are allowed to ) make use of it or not .... each PMC issue!?
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost
for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message to
let the subscribers of announce@apache.org be aware of such a
configuration, so they can decide which list to subscribe to. But even
then, ezmlm does not like having one mailing list send to another (as an
anti-mail-loop mechanism).
Brian
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Thom May <th...@planetarytramp.net>.
* Tetsuya Kitahata (tetsuya@apache.org) wrote :
>
> Wait, wait.
>
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
>
wrong.
-Thom
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
RE: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
> announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
> announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
It was discussed, but I don't believe that it was effected. Brian had some
concerns. See the community@ archives.
--- Noel
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Wait, wait.
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
Then, Henning does not have to CC to announce@apache.org, just
mail to announcements@jakarta ... don't you think so?! >> all
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
On 26 Aug 2003 13:00:34 +0200
(Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org])
Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
> As I said, I was just looking on the web pages. Maybe we should update
> them.
>
> Regards
> Henning
>
>
> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote:
> > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> > through your announcement...
> >
> > If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
> > may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
> >
> > david
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> > [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> > > > Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
> > >
> > > Because I looked at
> > >
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
> > >
> > > and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
> > > address for jakarta announcements.
> > >
> > > I did BTW sent it to webmaster@jakarta.apache.org with Subject [NEWS],
> > > too as suggested on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html but it got
> > > lost there, too.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Henning
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > david
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > > > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > > Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:
> > Returnedpost
> > > > for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> > > > > announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by
> > the
> > > > > mailing list program. :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Henning
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > > --
> > > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
> > > hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
> > >
> > > Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
> > > freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
> > >
> > > "Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty
> > silicon!"
> > > -- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> --
> Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
> hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
>
> Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
> freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
>
> "Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty silicon!"
> -- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Hi,
I simply stole^Wborrowed the layout from Martins' Torque announcement. I
will put "Jakarta Turbine" in for the final release. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Regards
Henning
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:56, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200
> Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
>
> > Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
> >
> > Regards
> > Henning
>
> Ditto: (+1)
>
> Also, I think announcements@jakarta can use the same script,
> if the moderators of announcements@jakarta are now getting
> many spam mails, coming to this address.
> (Of course, I mean all the announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org lists)
>
> Things should be simpler.:) .. Apache.org is complicated enough.
>
> -- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
>
> P.S. One suggestion, Hennings. "Turbine-2.3-RC2 released" ->
> "Jakarta Turbine-2.3-RC2 released" or "Apache Turbine-2.3-RC2 released"
> from next announcement.
>
> > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote:
> > > And a very sensible one at that!
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > david
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <Ke...@Golux.Com>
> > > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> > > [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> > >
> > >
> > > > David Reid wrote:
> > > > > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily
> > > moderated
> > > > > through your announcement...
> > > >
> > > > unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
> > > @apache.org
> > > > address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all
> > > other
> > > > sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam measure.
> > > > --
> > > > #ken P-)}
> > > >
> > > > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
> > > > Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
> > > >
> > > > "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > --
> > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer
> > INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de
> >
> > Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de
> > D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
> E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
> http://www.terra-intl.com/
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
"Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty silicon!"
-- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200
Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
> Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
>
> Regards
> Henning
Ditto: (+1)
Also, I think announcements@jakarta can use the same script,
if the moderators of announcements@jakarta are now getting
many spam mails, coming to this address.
(Of course, I mean all the announce(ments)@<tlp>.apache.org lists)
Things should be simpler.:) .. Apache.org is complicated enough.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
P.S. One suggestion, Hennings. "Turbine-2.3-RC2 released" ->
"Jakarta Turbine-2.3-RC2 released" or "Apache Turbine-2.3-RC2 released"
from next announcement.
> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote:
> > And a very sensible one at that!
> >
> > :)
> >
> > david
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <Ke...@Golux.Com>
> > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> > [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> >
> >
> > > David Reid wrote:
> > > > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily
> > moderated
> > > > through your announcement...
> > >
> > > unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
> > @apache.org
> > > address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all
> > other
> > > sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam measure.
> > > --
> > > #ken P-)}
> > >
> > > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
> > > Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
> > >
> > > "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> --
> Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer
> INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de
>
> Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de
> D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote:
> And a very sensible one at that!
>
> :)
>
> david
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <Ke...@Golux.Com>
> To: <co...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
>
>
> > David Reid wrote:
> > > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily
> moderated
> > > through your announcement...
> >
> > unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
> @apache.org
> > address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all
> other
> > sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam measure.
> > --
> > #ken P-)}
> >
> > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
> > Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
> >
> > "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer
INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de
Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de
D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
And a very sensible one at that!
:)
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <Ke...@Golux.Com>
To: <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> David Reid wrote:
> > As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily
moderated
> > through your announcement...
>
> unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
@apache.org
> address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all
other
> sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam measure.
> --
> #ken P-)}
>
> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
>
> "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost
for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
David Reid wrote:
> As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> through your announcement...
unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an @apache.org
address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all other
sources will get silently dropped. an anti-spam measure.
--
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
As I said, I was just looking on the web pages. Maybe we should update
them.
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote:
> As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> through your announcement...
>
> If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
> may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
>
> david
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> To: <co...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
>
>
> > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> > > Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
> >
> > Because I looked at
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
> >
> > and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
> > address for jakarta announcements.
> >
> > I did BTW sent it to webmaster@jakarta.apache.org with Subject [NEWS],
> > too as suggested on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html but it got
> > lost there, too.
> >
> > Regards
> > Henning
> >
> >
> > >
> > > david
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:
> Returnedpost
> > > for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> > > > announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by
> the
> > > > mailing list program. :-(
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Henning
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > --
> > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
> > hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
> >
> > Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
> > freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
> >
> > "Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty
> silicon!"
> > -- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
"Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty silicon!"
-- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:16 -0400
(Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org)
Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com> wrote:
> i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of
> email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several
> people who are moderators for that list. adding another moderator
> won't keep the existing ones from having to wade through all the
> spam filling their inboxes -- it will just add one more person
> with the same amount of spam in *its* inbox.
1)
Yes, I knew. Why did not you think of "take over" instead of "add"??
Anyone can toss the tasks to the others if they feel burdens could
be enough not to handle the problems properly, as long as they
will prepare the documentations (or something) for the successors
of their tasks. (This is just my opinion, though)
There would be freedom of resignation as well as participation.
(In other words, I completely agree with your point of view
if there's no freedom of resignation)
I am willing to "take over".
2)
I think it can be one of the "functional enhancement requests"
for the ezmlm development team.
What about:
1. List Owner who get *all* mails for moderation
2. Moderators who receive 1/(number_of_moderators) mails for moderation
(not *all* the mails)
This is one of the proper "functional enhancement"s and i think it
works well.
Also,
http://www.fml.org/
gives you many hints and insights on "what is mailing list"
and should be.
> > Also, how about using modules for committers to explain such kind
> > of things as these above?
> please explain.
"committers" module can be used to store these kinds of information,
I think.
("See 'committers' module", instead of "<an...@apache.org>:
Must be sent from an @apache.org address." in bounced mail)
> i don't think it's really subject to vote here. if anywhere,
> it would be the moderators and the infrastructure people. and
> my point is that now this is a publicly known algorithm, spammers
> may spoof mail as coming from @apache.org in order to get into
> the moderation queue.
I think there would be much nicer approaching method to solve
the problem, but I am afraid there could be *security* concerns.
I'll talk about this at other mailing lists (non-open ML).
-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> Ken, if you feel *burdens* for the moderations of XX mailing
> lists, please feel free to contact me. I think I can deal with
> 250-500 additional mails per day for now. (Now: 500-700 mails per day)
i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of
email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several
people who are moderators for that list. adding another moderator
won't keep the existing ones from having to wade through all the
spam filling their inboxes -- it will just add one more person
with the same amount of spam in *its* inbox.
i think the issue here is the violation of the principle of least
astonishment -- namely, the restriction wasn't clearly enough
documented (or possibly at all) so it caught henning by surprise.
as for whether documenting it is a good idea, see the last section
below.
> Also, how about using modules for committers to explain such kind
> of things as these above?
please explain.
>> and now that this has been discussed on a publicly archived list,
>> it will probably have to made even more stringent, such as
>> requiring the mail be sent from your account on one of the asf
>> machines or something.
>
> -1
i don't think it's really subject to vote here. if anywhere,
it would be the moderators and the infrastructure people. and
my point is that now this is a publicly known algorithm, spammers
may spoof mail as coming from @apache.org in order to get into
the moderation queue.
--
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:52:58 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com> wrote:
> > This isn't nice. :-(
> henning, that's a judgement made from too little information.
> if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages
> to that address to see which should be moderated, you would
> most likely have a different opinion. changing your return address
> to an @apache.org one long enough to send a message is a lot
> less strenuous for the community than allowing postings to it
> from just anywhere and imposing the additional burden on the
> moderators. who are volunteers, by the way.
I think I can understand Henning's feelings as well as Ken's feelings.
(I once administrated over 35 mailing lists at the same time.
I owned over 10,000 members' community ... )
Ken, if you feel *burdens* for the moderations of XX mailing
lists, please feel free to contact me. I think I can deal with
250-500 additional mails per day for now. (Now: 500-700 mails per day)
Also, how about using modules for committers to explain such kind
of things as these above?
> and now that this has been discussed on a publicly archived list,
> it will probably have to made even more stringent, such as
> requiring the mail be sent from your account on one of the asf
> machines or something.
-1
--
Please use your precious time meaningfully and lead a useful life.
-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)
-----------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost
for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now I know a reason:
>
> --- cut ---
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <an...@apache.org>:
> Must be sent from an @apache.org address.
> --- cut ---
>
> This isn't nice. :-(
henning, that's a judgement made from too little information.
if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages
to that address to see which should be moderated, you would
most likely have a different opinion. changing your return address
to an @apache.org one long enough to send a message is a lot
less strenuous for the community than allowing postings to it
from just anywhere and imposing the additional burden on the
moderators. who are volunteers, by the way.
and now that this has been discussed on a publicly archived list,
it will probably have to made even more stringent, such as
requiring the mail be sent from your account on one of the asf
machines or something.
--
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Hi,
now I know a reason:
--- cut ---
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<an...@apache.org>:
Must be sent from an @apache.org address.
--- cut ---
This isn't nice. :-(
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote:
> As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
> through your announcement...
>
> If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
> may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
>
> david
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> To: <co...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
> [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
>
>
> > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> > > Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
> >
> > Because I looked at
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
> >
> > and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
> > address for jakarta announcements.
> >
> > I did BTW sent it to webmaster@jakarta.apache.org with Subject [NEWS],
> > too as suggested on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html but it got
> > lost there, too.
> >
> > Regards
> > Henning
> >
> >
> > >
> > > david
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:
> Returnedpost
> > > for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> > > > announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by
> the
> > > > mailing list program. :-(
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Henning
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> > --
> > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
> > hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
> >
> > Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
> > freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
> >
> > "Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty
> silicon!"
> > -- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer
INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de
Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de
D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by David Reid <da...@jetnet.co.uk>.
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
To: <co...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> > Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
>
> Because I looked at
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
>
> and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
> address for jakarta announcements.
>
> I did BTW sent it to webmaster@jakarta.apache.org with Subject [NEWS],
> too as suggested on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html but it got
> lost there, too.
>
> Regards
> Henning
>
>
> >
> > david
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > To: <co...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
> > Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:
Returnedpost
> > for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> > > announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by
the
> > > mailing list program. :-(
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Henning
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
> --
> Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
> hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
>
> Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
> freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
>
> "Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty
silicon!"
> -- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:
Returnedpost for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
> Any reason why you didn't send it to announce@apache.org?
Because I looked at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
address for jakarta announcements.
I did BTW sent it to webmaster@jakarta.apache.org with Subject [NEWS],
too as suggested on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html but it got
lost there, too.
Regards
Henning
>
> david
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henning Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>
> To: <co...@apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
> Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost
> for announcements@jakarta.apache.org]
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the
> > announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the
> > mailing list program. :-(
> >
> > Regards
> > Henning
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services
freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire
"Dominate!! Dominate!! Eat your young and aggregate! I have grotty silicon!"
-- AOL CD when played backwards (User Friendly - 200-10-15)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org