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mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

From #lucene IRC:
gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
[09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file
[09:43]gsingers:In looking at the file
[09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
[09:44]gsingers:events
[09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
[09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
[09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to just be add/copy/modify
[09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
[09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
[09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss notifications of other propchanges
[09:45]gsingers:We've asked on #asfinfra if there are other options
[09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things available
[09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want to try turning off propchange?


-Grant



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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Koji Sekiguchi <ko...@r.email.ne.jp>.
(10/11/16 23:55), Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want to try turning off propchange?

+1.

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RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de>.
Who does the first merge? *g*
Thanks Grant for taking care, I just did not take care the last weeks!

Uwe

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> 
> OK, it is now set.  Next time someone does a merge, keep an eye on the
> commit messages and let me know.
> 
> I set it to add copy modify
> 
> 
> -Grant
> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Uwe Schindler wrote:
> 
> > The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using
> http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work
> regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and
specify a
> special subtree config for /lucene project folder.
> >
> > See also the attached mail!
> >
> > -----
> > Uwe Schindler
> > H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> > http://www.thetaphi.de
> > eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
> >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> >>
> >> After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the
> >> mailer.py script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the
> >> generate_diffs list will have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven
wrong.
> >>
> >> Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of
> >> property filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option
> >> set was too baroque, so he reverted the entire set - see
> >> <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
> >>
> >> I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and
> "ignore_propdiffs"
> >> regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore
> >> svn:mergeinfo diffs while still noting that files' properties have
> >> changed, without affecting other properties or their diffs.  No
responses yet,
> hopefully tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
> >>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> >>> Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> >>>
> >>> From #lucene IRC:
> >>> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit
> >>> overload [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file
> >>> [09:43]gsingers:In looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears
> >>> the one thing we have the ability to do is to turn off the
> >>> generation of diffs for [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The
default
> setting is:
> >>> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
> >>> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
> >>> just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
> >>> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
> >>> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
> >>> notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
> >>> #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
> >>> looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
> >>> available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people
> >>> want to try turning off propchange?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Grant
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
OK, it is now set.  Next time someone does a merge, keep an eye on the commit messages and let me know.

I set it to add copy modify


-Grant

On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Uwe Schindler wrote:

> The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and specify a special subtree config for /lucene project folder.
> 
> See also the attached mail!
> 
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> http://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>> 
>> After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the mailer.py
>> script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs list will
>> have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
>> 
>> Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property
>> filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too baroque, so
>> he reverted the entire set - see
>> <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
>> 
>> I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and "ignore_propdiffs"
>> regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo diffs
>> while still noting that files' properties have changed, without affecting other
>> properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
>>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>>> 
>>> From #lucene IRC:
>>> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
>>> [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file [09:43]gsingers:In
>>> looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have
>>> the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
>>> [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
>>> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
>>> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
>>> just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
>>> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
>>> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
>>> notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
>>> #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
>>> looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
>>> available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want
>>> to try turning off propchange?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Grant
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
big +1, we can actually review backports now... this was really bad before.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steven A Rowe <sa...@syr.edu> wrote:
> Uwe, my Inbox thanks you. - Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Uwe Schindler [mailto:uwe@thetaphi.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:04 AM
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>>
>> The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using
>> http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work
>> regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and
>> specify a special subtree config for /lucene project folder.
>>
>> See also the attached mail!
>>
>> -----
>> Uwe Schindler
>> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
>> http://www.thetaphi.de
>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
>> > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> > Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>> >
>> > After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the
>> mailer.py
>> > script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs
>> list will
>> > have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
>> >
>> > Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property
>> > filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too
>> baroque, so
>> > he reverted the entire set - see
>> > <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
>> >
>> > I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and
>> "ignore_propdiffs"
>> > regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo
>> diffs
>> > while still noting that files' properties have changed, without
>> affecting other
>> > properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
>> > > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> > > Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>> > >
>> > > From #lucene IRC:
>> > > gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
>> > > [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file [09:43]gsingers:In
>> > > looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have
>> > > the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
>> > > [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
>> > > [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
>> > > [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
>> > > just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
>> > > [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
>> > > [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
>> > > notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
>> > > #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
>> > > looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
>> > > available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want
>> > > to try turning off propchange?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -Grant
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Steven A Rowe <sa...@syr.edu>.
Uwe, my Inbox thanks you. - Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Uwe Schindler [mailto:uwe@thetaphi.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:04 AM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> 
> The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using
> http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work
> regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and
> specify a special subtree config for /lucene project folder.
> 
> See also the attached mail!
> 
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> http://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
> > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> >
> > After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the
> mailer.py
> > script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs
> list will
> > have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
> >
> > Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property
> > filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too
> baroque, so
> > he reverted the entire set - see
> > <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
> >
> > I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and
> "ignore_propdiffs"
> > regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo
> diffs
> > while still noting that files' properties have changed, without
> affecting other
> > properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
> > > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> > > Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> > >
> > > From #lucene IRC:
> > > gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
> > > [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file [09:43]gsingers:In
> > > looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have
> > > the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
> > > [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
> > > [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
> > > [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
> > > just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
> > > [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
> > > [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
> > > notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
> > > #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
> > > looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
> > > available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want
> > > to try turning off propchange?
> > >
> > >
> > > -Grant
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
OK, I will set it to not do propchange.

-Grant

On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Uwe Schindler wrote:

> The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and specify a special subtree config for /lucene project folder.
> 
> See also the attached mail!
> 
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> http://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>> 
>> After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the mailer.py
>> script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs list will
>> have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
>> 
>> Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property
>> filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too baroque, so
>> he reverted the entire set - see
>> <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
>> 
>> I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and "ignore_propdiffs"
>> regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo diffs
>> while still noting that files' properties have changed, without affecting other
>> properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
>>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>>> 
>>> From #lucene IRC:
>>> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
>>> [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file [09:43]gsingers:In
>>> looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have
>>> the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
>>> [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
>>> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
>>> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
>>> just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
>>> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
>>> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
>>> notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
>>> #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
>>> looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
>>> available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want
>>> to try turning off propchange?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Grant
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de>.
The ASF does not use the vanilla mailer.py script, they are using http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer - and this one does fantastic work regarding this! We just need to change the config files of this tool and specify a special subtree config for /lucene project folder.

See also the attached mail!

-----
Uwe Schindler
H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven A Rowe [mailto:sarowe@syr.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:02 AM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> 
> After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the mailer.py
> script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs list will
> have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
> 
> Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property
> filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too baroque, so
> he reverted the entire set - see
> <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
> 
> I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and "ignore_propdiffs"
> regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo diffs
> while still noting that files' properties have changed, without affecting other
> properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.
> 
> Steve
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
> > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> >
> > From #lucene IRC:
> > gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
> > [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file [09:43]gsingers:In
> > looking at the file [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have
> > the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
> > [09:44]gsingers:events [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
> > [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
> > [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to
> > just be add/copy/modify [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
> > [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
> > [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss
> > notifications of other propchanges [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on
> > #asfinfra if there are other options [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is
> > looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things
> > available [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want
> > to try turning off propchange?
> >
> >
> > -Grant
> >
> >
> >
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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Robert Muir wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> FWIW, it was announced at ApacheCon that the ASF will be supporting Read/Write Git, so maybe we just live with it until we can migrate to Git.
>> 
> 
> I didn't know there was consensus that our project would migrate to
> Git. I surely hope we would vote on such a decision!
> 

Yeah, sorry for the implication that we would move.  It is definitely something we should decide together.


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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:

> FWIW, it was announced at ApacheCon that the ASF will be supporting Read/Write Git, so maybe we just live with it until we can migrate to Git.
>

I didn't know there was consensus that our project would migrate to
Git. I surely hope we would vote on such a decision!

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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Steven A Rowe wrote:

> After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the mailer.py script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs list will have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
> 
> Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too baroque, so he reverted the entire set - see <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.
> 
> I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and "ignore_propdiffs" regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo diffs while still noting that files' properties have changed, without affecting other properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.

We might also be able to supply a patch to ASF infra to turn it on.

However, I still feel like we are doing something wrong here relative to other projects.  Surely other projects are doing merges and have successfully avoided all this noise.  (I know, I know, we've discussed this before.)  Perhaps an email to community@a.o might help or if we look around at other projects that merge and see what they do.  In looking in the mailer conf, some projects turn off generating diffs altogether, but I don't think that is what we want.

FWIW, it was announced at ApacheCon that the ASF will be supporting Read/Write Git, so maybe we just live with it until we can migrate to Git.

-Grant

> 
> Steve
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
>> 
>> From #lucene IRC:
>> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
>> [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file
>> [09:43]gsingers:In looking at the file
>> [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have the ability to do is to
>> turn off the generation of diffs for
>> [09:44]gsingers:events
>> [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
>> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
>> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to just
>> be add/copy/modify
>> [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
>> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
>> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss notifications of
>> other propchanges
>> [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on #asfinfra if there are other options
>> [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is looking into the mailer.py script to see if
>> there are other things available
>> [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want to try
>> turning off propchange?
>> 
>> 
>> -Grant
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Steven A Rowe <sa...@syr.edu>.
After looking more closely at the vanilla Subversion version of the mailer.py script, I'm 99% sure that removing propchange from the generate_diffs list will have zero effect, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Turns out Subversion's mailer.py once had a much larger set of property filtering options, but C. Mike (Pilato) thought the option set was too baroque, so he reverted the entire set - see <http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2944>.

I've asked on #svn about re-instating the "ignore_props" and "ignore_propdiffs" regex-valued options - these would allow us to only ignore svn:mergeinfo diffs while still noting that files' properties have changed, without affecting other properties or their diffs.  No responses yet, hopefully tomorrow.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsingers@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:55 AM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution
> 
> From #lucene IRC:
> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
> [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file
> [09:43]gsingers:In looking at the file
> [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have the ability to do is to
> turn off the generation of diffs for
> [09:44]gsingers:events
> [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to just
> be add/copy/modify
> [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss notifications of
> other propchanges
> [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on #asfinfra if there are other options
> [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is looking into the mailer.py script to see if
> there are other things available
> [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want to try
> turning off propchange?
> 
> 
> -Grant
> 
> 
> 
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Re: mergeinfo commit mails, possible solution

Posted by Michael McCandless <lu...@mikemccandless.com>.
+1 to turning off propchange emails.

A trivial back-port now generates 9 emails!

The number of bits I cause to fly across the planet by hitting the
return key on my lonely computer is insane.

Mike

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> From #lucene IRC:
> gsingers:sarowe and I were talking about the mergeinfo commit overload
> [09:43]gsingers:and the asf_mailer.conf file
> [09:43]gsingers:In looking at the file
> [09:44]gsingers:it appears the one thing we have the ability to do is to turn off the generation of diffs for
> [09:44]gsingers:events
> [09:44]gsingers:The default setting is:
> [09:44]gsingers:generate_diffs = add copy modify propchange
> [09:44]gsingers:sarowe and I are proposing to change our settings to just be add/copy/modify
> [09:44]gsingers:and try dropping propchange
> [09:45]gsingers:I honestly don't know whether it will work or not
> [09:45]gsingers:and it will also likely mean we will miss notifications of other propchanges
> [09:45]gsingers:We've asked on #asfinfra if there are other options
> [09:45]gsingers:and sarowe is looking into the mailer.py script to see if there are other things available
> [09:46]gsingers:I guess the question here is, do people want to try turning off propchange?
>
>
> -Grant
>
>
>
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