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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Ben Stover <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> on 2012/03/28 13:46:32 UTC
RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server distribution?
Hello Mark (& others),
thank you for the answers.
I am searching SVN server software.
pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python stuff if possible).
As previously mentioned the bottom of page http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
shows 5 server packages.
I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
a.) Linux as server platform
b) Windows as server platform
Is there a rough "market share" estimation?
The server should later be accessible from Eclipse or TortoiseSVN Client
No VisualStudio integretion necessary
Can you give me some hints?
Ben
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:30:06 +0100, Cooke, Mark wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nkadel@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 24 March 2012 03:14
>> To: Ben Stover
>> Cc: Subversion Users
>> Subject: Re: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion
>> distribution?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ben Stover
>> <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > When I go to the download page for the Subversion binaries
>> > for WindowsOS:
>> >
>> > http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
>> >
>> > Then there are 5 different packages:
>> >
>> > CollabNet (supported and certified by CollabNet;
>> > requires registration)
>> > SlikSVN (32- and 64-bit client MSI; maintained by Bert
>> > Huijben, SharpSvn project)
>> > VisualSVN (client and server; supported and maintained
>> > by VisualSVN)
>> > WANdisco (32- and 64-bit client and server; supported
>> > and certified by WANdisco)
>> > Win32Svn (32-bit client, server and bindings, MSI and
>> > ZIPs; maintained by David Darj)
>> >
>> >
>> > What are the differences between them?
>> >
>>
>> It Depends(tm). Some are supposed to be IDE's, such as
>> SlikSVN and VisualSVN. But the most commonly used, and
>> probably best, Subversion for Windows is TortoiseSVN. The
>> very good GUI and the well integrated behavior with Windows
>> interfaces make it very easy to use,
>>
>> Another popular Windows command line tool suite is in CygWin,
>> which is the compiltion envionment for many Windows tools.
>>
>>
>> > Which one is the "best supported"/most compatible?
>> >
>> > Which one is the most widely used in WinOS world?
>> >
>>
>> In my obvservatoin, TortoiseSVN, which is GUI based.
>>
>As Nico already said "it depends". You do not say exactly what you want... Most importantly are you looking to setup repositories (you want the server stuff) or just connect to existing ones (just the client)?
>If you need the server stuff, do you want to configure it all yourself (Alagazam includes lots of bindings for python etc) or go for a pre-packaged solution (look for Bitnami or WANdisco's uberSVN)?
>If just the client, then do you want it integrated with Visual Studio (Slik and Visual) or just to work through Explorer (TortoiseSVN) or just the command line (also Tortoise if you select the command line tools in the
setup app or alagazam or WANDdisco or....)?
>Hope that starts to explain the differences between them!
>~ mark c
RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server
distribution?
Posted by "Cooke, Mark" <ma...@siemens.com>.
[convention on this list is to answer in line to make the thread easier to follow]
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:30:06 +0100, Cooke, Mark wrote:
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nkadel@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: 24 March 2012 03:14
> >> To: Ben Stover
> >> Cc: Subversion Users
> >> Subject: Re: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion
> >> distribution?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ben Stover
> >> <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > When I go to the download page for the Subversion binaries
> >> > for WindowsOS:
> >> >
> >> > http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> >> >
> >> > Then there are 5 different packages:
> >> >
> >> > CollabNet (supported and certified by CollabNet;
> >> > requires registration)
> >> > SlikSVN (32- and 64-bit client MSI; maintained by Bert
> >> > Huijben, SharpSvn project)
> >> > VisualSVN (client and server; supported and maintained
> >> > by VisualSVN)
> >> > WANdisco (32- and 64-bit client and server; supported
> >> > and certified by WANdisco)
> >> > Win32Svn (32-bit client, server and bindings, MSI and
> >> > ZIPs; maintained by David Darj)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the differences between them?
> >> >
> >>
> >> It Depends(tm). Some are supposed to be IDE's, such as
> >> SlikSVN and VisualSVN. But the most commonly used, and
> >> probably best, Subversion for Windows is TortoiseSVN. The
> >> very good GUI and the well integrated behavior with Windows
> >> interfaces make it very easy to use,
> >>
> >> Another popular Windows command line tool suite is in CygWin,
> >> which is the compiltion envionment for many Windows tools.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Which one is the "best supported"/most compatible?
> >> >
> >> > Which one is the most widely used in WinOS world?
> >> >
> >>
> >> In my obvservatoin, TortoiseSVN, which is GUI based.
> >>
> >As Nico already said "it depends". You do not say exactly
> what you want... Most importantly are you looking to setup
> repositories (you want the server stuff) or just connect to
> existing ones (just the client)?
>
> >If you need the server stuff, do you want to configure it
> all yourself (Alagazam includes lots of bindings for python
> etc) or go for a pre-packaged solution (look for Bitnami or
> WANdisco's uberSVN)?
>
> >If just the client, then do you want it integrated with
> Visual Studio (Slik and Visual) or just to work through
> Explorer (TortoiseSVN) or just the command line (also
> Tortoise if you select the command line tools in the
> setup app or alagazam or WANDdisco or....)?
>
> >Hope that starts to explain the differences between them!
>
> >~ mark c
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Stover [mailto:bxstover@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 March 2012 12:47
> To: Subversion Users
> Cc: Nico Kadel-Garcia; Cooke, Mark
> Subject: RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion
> server distribution?
>
> Hello Mark (& others),
>
> thank you for the answers.
>
> I am searching SVN server software.
> pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python
> stuff if possible).
>
> As previously mentioned the bottom of page
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> shows 5 server packages.
>
> I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
> a.) Linux as server platform
> b) Windows as server platform
>
> Is there a rough "market share" estimation?
>
> The server should later be accessible from Eclipse or
> TortoiseSVN Client
> No VisualStudio integretion necessary
>
> Can you give me some hints?
>
> Ben
>
OK, I can only give some pointers as my background is a self-install on Windoze.
My understanding for linux is to go with whatever your package provider already has for you (I use ubuntu at home and just followed one of the many "how to"s on the net). However, take a look at WANdisco's uberSVN which (AFAIK) aims to deal with installation / setup issues for you (for free).
For windows I would suggest looking up the BitNami subversion stack (Victoria from BitNami seems to be pretty responsive to questions on this list) and/or WANdisco's uberSVN again. Ooo, it looks like BitNami provide support for *nix too (http://bitnami.org/stack/subversion)...
No idea about "market share" as such and any properly configured server will work for any client you choose to use.
Good luck and let us know what works best for you.
~ mark c
RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server
distribution?
Posted by Brenden Walker <BK...@drbsystems.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Stover [mailto:bxstover@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:47 AM
> To: Subversion Users
> Cc: Nico Kadel-Garcia; Cooke, Mark
> Subject: RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server
> distribution?
>
> Hello Mark (& others),
>
> thank you for the answers.
>
> I am searching SVN server software.
> pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python stuff if
> possible).
>
> As previously mentioned the bottom of page
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> shows 5 server packages.
>
> I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
> a.) Linux as server platform
> b) Windows as server platform
If you need active directory authentication, I'd recommend windows and VisualSVN server. I've never had too much luck getting Linux to authenticate with Active Directory (some successes but a lot of work). VisualSVN server is simple to setup and easy to work with in a primarily windows environment.
RE: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server
distribution?
Posted by Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>.
> Hello Mark (& others),
>
> thank you for the answers.
>
> I am searching SVN server software.
> pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python stuff if possible).
>
> As previously mentioned the bottom of page
> http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> shows 5 server packages.
>
> I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
> a.) Linux as server platform
> b) Windows as server platform
>
> Is there a rough "market share" estimation?
>
> The server should later be accessible from Eclipse or TortoiseSVN Client No
> VisualStudio integretion necessary
>
> Can you give me some hints?
Ah... we have always used Colabnet's binaries. I recently started using subversion edge which is very easy to install and update. It was fairly easy to hook up to LDAP for authentication as well with the help of my IT department to get the LDAP path info correct.
BOb
>
> Ben
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:30:06 +0100, Cooke, Mark wrote:
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nkadel@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: 24 March 2012 03:14
> >> To: Ben Stover
> >> Cc: Subversion Users
> >> Subject: Re: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion
> >> distribution?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ben Stover <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > When I go to the download page for the Subversion binaries for
> >> > WindowsOS:
> >> >
> >> > http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> >> >
> >> > Then there are 5 different packages:
> >> >
> >> > CollabNet (supported and certified by CollabNet;
> >> > requires registration)
> >> > SlikSVN (32- and 64-bit client MSI; maintained by Bert
> >> > Huijben, SharpSvn project)
> >> > VisualSVN (client and server; supported and maintained
> >> > by VisualSVN)
> >> > WANdisco (32- and 64-bit client and server; supported
> >> > and certified by WANdisco)
> >> > Win32Svn (32-bit client, server and bindings, MSI and
> >> > ZIPs; maintained by David Darj)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What are the differences between them?
> >> >
> >>
> >> It Depends(tm). Some are supposed to be IDE's, such as SlikSVN and
> >> VisualSVN. But the most commonly used, and probably best, Subversion
> >> for Windows is TortoiseSVN. The very good GUI and the well integrated
> >> behavior with Windows interfaces make it very easy to use,
> >>
> >> Another popular Windows command line tool suite is in CygWin, which
> >> is the compiltion envionment for many Windows tools.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Which one is the "best supported"/most compatible?
> >> >
> >> > Which one is the most widely used in WinOS world?
> >> >
> >>
> >> In my obvservatoin, TortoiseSVN, which is GUI based.
> >>
> >As Nico already said "it depends". You do not say exactly what you want...
> Most importantly are you looking to setup repositories (you want the server
> stuff) or just connect to existing ones (just the client)?
>
> >If you need the server stuff, do you want to configure it all yourself (Alagazam
> includes lots of bindings for python etc) or go for a pre-packaged solution (look
> for Bitnami or WANdisco's uberSVN)?
>
> >If just the client, then do you want it integrated with Visual Studio
> >(Slik and Visual) or just to work through Explorer (TortoiseSVN) or
> >just the command line (also Tortoise if you select the command line
> >tools in the
> setup app or alagazam or WANDdisco or....)?
>
> >Hope that starts to explain the differences between them!
>
> >~ mark c
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server distribution?
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ben Stover <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> thank you for the answers.
>
> I am searching SVN server software.
> pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python stuff if possible).
Just curious, but why the Python concern. You might want to run hook
scripts someday, so having Python support can be handy for this.
> As previously mentioned the bottom of page http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> shows 5 server packages.
The differences are just packaging. Any software listed is just
someone that has compiled the source for you. Some might have used
different versions of dependencies etc., but in general that should
not matter.
You should decide if you want to just get plain binaries and then
configure everything yourself. Or do you want a package that adds
additional software that makes it easier to manage. Subversion Edge,
the product I manage is one such distribution. It includes all of the
Apache and Subversion binaries, plus the ViewVC repository browser.
It also includes a web UI to configure and manage the server. There
are other similar packages like UberSVN and VisualSVN. You can get
Subversion Edge here:
http://www.open.collab.net/products/subversion/getit.html
> I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
> a.) Linux as server platform
> b) Windows as server platform
I would choose the server OS based on your own preference and
competencies when it comes to managing a server. Which one are you
going to be better at managing in terms of backup and recovery,
patching, tuning etc.
> The server should later be accessible from Eclipse or TortoiseSVN Client
> No VisualStudio integretion necessary
No matter what server option you choose, the actual SVN server will be
identical. All SVN servers will support all of these clients and more
(whether you want them to or not :) )
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
Re: Which is the most used/best Windows Subversion server distribution?
Posted by Pavel Lyalyakin <pa...@visualsvn.com>.
Hello,
> I am searching SVN server software.
> pre-packaged solutions preferred/required (without python stuff if possible).
>
> As previously mentioned the bottom of page http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
> shows 5 server packages.
>
> I need a comparison and recommendation which package to select for
> a.) Linux as server platform
> b) Windows as server platform
>
> Is there a rough "market share" estimation?
>
> The server should later be accessible from Eclipse or TortoiseSVN Client
> No VisualStudio integretion necessary
>
> Can you give me some hints?
For Windows environment you may consider VisualSVN Server:
http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
The Standard Edition has neat management console and is really easy to
setup (and there is no 'Python stuff' BTW). Standard Edition is free
of charge and is available for commercial use.
There is also the Enterprise version that provides additional features
such as Active Directory Single Sign-On (that works *out-of-the-box*
and doesn't require any additional setup!) and remote server
administration.
--
With best regards,
Pavel Lyalyakin
VisualSVN Team