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lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Hi list.
I want to obtain the source files for https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/netbeans/lib/cvsclient/20060125/
However, the oldest sources in http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/ are from 2007 and the line numbers already differ from those in the jar file.
changeset: 62059:764d24b5de78
user: jglick@netbeans.org
date: Sat Nov 17 20:39:21 2007 +0000
summary: Moving sources beneath the (standard) module projects which require them to build.
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Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Martin Entlicher <Ma...@oracle.com>.
It's easy to run "hg log lib.cvsclient" to find out the changes. There
were some additions to the module after 2006, I have no idea why it is
that old in the maven repo. I think that the person who did the upload
to maven might have leave the project/company at that time. The latest
non-trivial change seems to be in 2014 and the latest change (license)
in 2016.
-Martin
On 14.2.2018 22:22, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Martin Entlicher <
> Martin.Entlicher@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> The sources are still in the NetBeans HG repo at
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hg.netbeans.org_core-2Dmain_file_tip_lib.cvsclient&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=FzZzwOyOcPxetxP6_0ByJLDDX0dCB48NkqDa6md_Ds8&m=kzfjgfu4hqGY5A5j0gjEuTP5uKRtzhPdnXDT3cSGHBk&s=H-931_P0zYLt83bMj5g4bYbxCKpoY2DoWge5sTadzWI&e=
>>
>> It was not developed for a long time already as Tim said and the CVS
>> support was removed from the standard NetBeans distribution. It was on the
>> Update Center only. Thus it may not have been re-licensed to Apache yet...
>>
> Thanks, Martin.
>
> I think the original question was whether the sources in Mercurial are
> different from the update center build
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__repo.maven.apache.org_maven2_org_netbeans_lib_cvsclient_20060125_&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=FzZzwOyOcPxetxP6_0ByJLDDX0dCB48NkqDa6md_Ds8&m=kzfjgfu4hqGY5A5j0gjEuTP5uKRtzhPdnXDT3cSGHBk&s=_tOp8GL6cSbIpeyfWhmXqbmbweozCQUs2Obbo3ACVLc&e=
> which was built in January, 2006.
>
> Any idea if you made any code changes to it between 2006 and 2007 when it
> was moved and migrated to Mercurial? I realize I couldn't answer that
> question on a lot of code I worked on 11 years ago, but it's worth a shot
> :-) I think it was pretty much in maintenance mode from there out, or there
> would actually be a newer build on the update center, because the
> continuous build would have published it, right?
>
> Basin, is this good enough for you? And, out of curiosity, what does
> someone do with CVS in 2018? :-)
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Tim Boudreau <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Martin Entlicher <
Martin.Entlicher@oracle.com> wrote:
> The sources are still in the NetBeans HG repo at
> http://hg.netbeans.org/core-main/file/tip/lib.cvsclient
>
> It was not developed for a long time already as Tim said and the CVS
> support was removed from the standard NetBeans distribution. It was on the
> Update Center only. Thus it may not have been re-licensed to Apache yet...
>
Thanks, Martin.
I think the original question was whether the sources in Mercurial are
different from the update center build
https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/netbeans/lib/cvsclient/20060125/
which was built in January, 2006.
Any idea if you made any code changes to it between 2006 and 2007 when it
was moved and migrated to Mercurial? I realize I couldn't answer that
question on a lot of code I worked on 11 years ago, but it's worth a shot
:-) I think it was pretty much in maintenance mode from there out, or there
would actually be a newer build on the update center, because the
continuous build would have published it, right?
Basin, is this good enough for you? And, out of curiosity, what does
someone do with CVS in 2018? :-)
-Tim
Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Martin Entlicher <Ma...@oracle.com>.
The sources are still in the NetBeans HG repo at
http://hg.netbeans.org/core-main/file/tip/lib.cvsclient
It was not developed for a long time already as Tim said and the CVS
support was removed from the standard NetBeans distribution. It was on
the Update Center only. Thus it may not have been re-licensed to Apache
yet...
-Martin
On 14.2.2018 18:10, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> I strongly suspect, though I can't confirm it, that no serious ongoing
> development of it happened after 2003 or so.
>
> I don't know if he's on here, but Martin Entlicher would have been the
> person maintaining it at least through '07 and would be the person to ask.
>
> -Tim
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:45 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Knowing that only the headers changed would be enough.
>>
>> BTW, is there some outage in netbeans mailing? I can't recover my account,
>> I can't view mail archives at
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_projects_versioncontrol_lists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=FzZzwOyOcPxetxP6_0ByJLDDX0dCB48NkqDa6md_Ds8&m=ZikTr2zSu7JfSJebhm7O6KlyT_L1oEf4Iw4sabS3CFk&s=dqqkVwc89tQOfGR_Gl8enjsnBLnhhfcGWEbINIs98Lw&e=
>> "One or more lists are temporarily unavailable"
>>
>> On 14.02.2018 5:03, Tim Boudreau wrote:
>>> I don't know that I can be much help, but the CVS client started as a
>>> standalone project when the sources were in CVS hosted by CollabNet - it
>>> was a github-like setup where everything was under separate source
>> control.
>>> I don't know what year it was that we switched to self hosting with
>>> Mercurial, and did a huge source reorg into one repo led by Jesse, but it
>>> could have been '07. History was preserved for major components, but it
>> may
>>> not have been for something like this that was a small standalone
>> library.
>>> And anything that for moved in CVS of course lost its history.
>>>
>>> There used to be archives of all the CVS repos from pre-Mercurial times.
>> No
>>> idea if they still exist or where, but they might be out there. Perhaps
>>> Geertjan knows?
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:06 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi list.
>>>> I want to obtain the source files for
>>>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__repo.maven.apache.org_maven2_org_netbeans_lib_cvsclient_20060125_&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=FzZzwOyOcPxetxP6_0ByJLDDX0dCB48NkqDa6md_Ds8&m=ZikTr2zSu7JfSJebhm7O6KlyT_L1oEf4Iw4sabS3CFk&s=q0Jjr_51Kwe1LqOs8Wgg-BsTj2UTwiImbtnjqqGgbwQ&e=
>>>> However, the oldest sources in https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__hg.netbeans.org_releases_&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=FzZzwOyOcPxetxP6_0ByJLDDX0dCB48NkqDa6md_Ds8&m=ZikTr2zSu7JfSJebhm7O6KlyT_L1oEf4Iw4sabS3CFk&s=-iopIFayNfkC0xFwIRy0-vFh1lCqxwt_Gj6HY56lCdc&e= are
>> from
>>>> 2007 and the line numbers already differ from those in the jar file.
>>>>
>>>> changeset: 62059:764d24b5de78
>>>> user: jglick@netbeans.org
>>>> date: Sat Nov 17 20:39:21 2007 +0000
>>>> summary: Moving sources beneath the (standard) module projects
>>>> which require them to build.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Tim Boudreau <ni...@gmail.com>.
I strongly suspect, though I can't confirm it, that no serious ongoing
development of it happened after 2003 or so.
I don't know if he's on here, but Martin Entlicher would have been the
person maintaining it at least through '07 and would be the person to ask.
-Tim
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:45 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. Knowing that only the headers changed would be enough.
>
> BTW, is there some outage in netbeans mailing? I can't recover my account,
> I can't view mail archives at
> https://netbeans.org/projects/versioncontrol/lists
> "One or more lists are temporarily unavailable"
>
> On 14.02.2018 5:03, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> > I don't know that I can be much help, but the CVS client started as a
> > standalone project when the sources were in CVS hosted by CollabNet - it
> > was a github-like setup where everything was under separate source
> control.
> >
> > I don't know what year it was that we switched to self hosting with
> > Mercurial, and did a huge source reorg into one repo led by Jesse, but it
> > could have been '07. History was preserved for major components, but it
> may
> > not have been for something like this that was a small standalone
> library.
> > And anything that for moved in CVS of course lost its history.
> >
> > There used to be archives of all the CVS repos from pre-Mercurial times.
> No
> > idea if they still exist or where, but they might be out there. Perhaps
> > Geertjan knows?
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:06 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi list.
> >> I want to obtain the source files for
> >>
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/netbeans/lib/cvsclient/20060125/
> >> However, the oldest sources in http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/ are
> from
> >> 2007 and the line numbers already differ from those in the jar file.
> >>
> >> changeset: 62059:764d24b5de78
> >> user: jglick@netbeans.org
> >> date: Sat Nov 17 20:39:21 2007 +0000
> >> summary: Moving sources beneath the (standard) module projects
> >> which require them to build.
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> > http://timboudreau.com
> >
>
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Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com>.
Thanks. Knowing that only the headers changed would be enough.
BTW, is there some outage in netbeans mailing? I can't recover my account, I can't view mail archives at https://netbeans.org/projects/versioncontrol/lists
"One or more lists are temporarily unavailable"
On 14.02.2018 5:03, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> I don't know that I can be much help, but the CVS client started as a
> standalone project when the sources were in CVS hosted by CollabNet - it
> was a github-like setup where everything was under separate source control.
>
> I don't know what year it was that we switched to self hosting with
> Mercurial, and did a huge source reorg into one repo led by Jesse, but it
> could have been '07. History was preserved for major components, but it may
> not have been for something like this that was a small standalone library.
> And anything that for moved in CVS of course lost its history.
>
> There used to be archives of all the CVS repos from pre-Mercurial times. No
> idea if they still exist or where, but they might be out there. Perhaps
> Geertjan knows?
>
> -Tim
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:06 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi list.
>> I want to obtain the source files for
>> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/netbeans/lib/cvsclient/20060125/
>> However, the oldest sources in http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/ are from
>> 2007 and the line numbers already differ from those in the jar file.
>>
>> changeset: 62059:764d24b5de78
>> user: jglick@netbeans.org
>> date: Sat Nov 17 20:39:21 2007 +0000
>> summary: Moving sources beneath the (standard) module projects
>> which require them to build.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
> http://timboudreau.com
>
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Re: lib.cvsclient sources before 2007
Posted by Tim Boudreau <ni...@gmail.com>.
I don't know that I can be much help, but the CVS client started as a
standalone project when the sources were in CVS hosted by CollabNet - it
was a github-like setup where everything was under separate source control.
I don't know what year it was that we switched to self hosting with
Mercurial, and did a huge source reorg into one repo led by Jesse, but it
could have been '07. History was preserved for major components, but it may
not have been for something like this that was a small standalone library.
And anything that for moved in CVS of course lost its history.
There used to be archives of all the CVS repos from pre-Mercurial times. No
idea if they still exist or where, but they might be out there. Perhaps
Geertjan knows?
-Tim
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:06 AM Basin Ilya <ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi list.
> I want to obtain the source files for
> https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/netbeans/lib/cvsclient/20060125/
> However, the oldest sources in http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/ are from
> 2007 and the line numbers already differ from those in the jar file.
>
> changeset: 62059:764d24b5de78
> user: jglick@netbeans.org
> date: Sat Nov 17 20:39:21 2007 +0000
> summary: Moving sources beneath the (standard) module projects
> which require them to build.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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