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Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Hi,

I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913>
because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to 
update to 4.1.0 with known issue.

I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under 
"Known issues"

CU

Rainer

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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 19 May 2014 11:41:02 +0200
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 18.05.2014 20:46, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> >> I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
> >> because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
> >> update to 4.1.0 with known issue.
> >
> > I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the
> > update information, so one would still get the update notification even
> > if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer.
> 
> I agree with Andrea that version 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer.
> 
> > You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the
> > reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since
> > 2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you
> > found a way to reproduce it.
> >
> 
> I provided some further information regarding issue 124717 as an issue 
> comment. Please have a look.
> 
> > I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it
> > for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes,
> > we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks
> > we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.
> >
> 
> Yes, a 4.1.1 with the one or the other fix of a serious bugfix make 
> sense from my point of view.
> 
> >> I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
> >> "Known issues"
> >
> > Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.
> >
> 
> I have provided a workaround in the above mentioned issue comment.
> If someone can confirm it, the workaround could be added to the "Known 
> issues" text.
> 
> Best regards, Oliver.
> 
> > Regards,
> >    Andrea.
> >

Would it be appropriate to entirely remove the "Automatic check for update" link and simply leave the manual "Check for updates" on the Help menu?

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

On 18.05.2014 20:46, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>> I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
>> because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
>> update to 4.1.0 with known issue.
>
> I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the
> update information, so one would still get the update notification even
> if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer.

I agree with Andrea that version 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer.

> You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the
> reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since
> 2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you
> found a way to reproduce it.
>

I provided some further information regarding issue 124717 as an issue 
comment. Please have a look.

> I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it
> for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes,
> we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks
> we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.
>

Yes, a 4.1.1 with the one or the other fix of a serious bugfix make 
sense from my point of view.

>> I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
>> "Known issues"
>
> Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.
>

I have provided a workaround in the above mentioned issue comment.
If someone can confirm it, the workaround could be added to the "Known 
issues" text.

Best regards, Oliver.

> Regards,
>    Andrea.
>
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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Posted by Ritu Swain <sw...@gmail.com>.
Goodbye! Thank you for this opportunity.


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>
>> I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
>> because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
>> update to 4.1.0 with known issue.
>>
>
> I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the
> update information, so one would still get the update notification even if
> we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer. You
> cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the reason
> but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since 2010, and it
> took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you found a way to
> reproduce it.
>
> I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it
> for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes, we
> have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks we'll
> probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.
>
>
>  I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
>> "Known issues"
>>
>
> Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
> because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
> update to 4.1.0 with known issue.

I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the 
update information, so one would still get the update notification even 
if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer. 
You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the 
reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since 
2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you 
found a way to reproduce it.

I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it 
for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes, 
we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks 
we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.

> I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
> "Known issues"

Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> I submitted "Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info"
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
> because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
> update to 4.1.0 with known issue.

I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the 
update information, so one would still get the update notification even 
if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer. 
You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the 
reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since 
2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you 
found a way to reproduce it.

I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it 
for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes, 
we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks 
we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.

> I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
> "Known issues"

Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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