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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Tim Whittington <ti...@apache.org> on 2013/03/03 23:18:03 UTC

Re: Tomcat does not accept connections from Safari on iPad vs an SSL connector with JSSE ciphers

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Giuseppe Sacco
<gi...@eppesuigoccas.homedns.org> wrote:
[...]

> I listed all providers here:
> http://centrum.lixper.it/~giuseppe/ipad-tomcat-list-ciphers-no-bouncycastle.html
> as you may see, a few of them are TLS_RSA and TLS_DHE:
> *       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
> *       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
> *       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
> *       TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
> *       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
> *       TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
>
> They are also listed as "default" ciphers, so -- if I understood what
> default means -- they should not be enabled explicitly.
>
> They overlap with those client ciphers:
> TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
> TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
>
> Is there any possibility that some of those server ciphers are disabled
> because of the algorithm used in the server certificate? Its signature
> algorithm is SHA1withDSA. I created it with this command line:
> keytool -genkeypair -alias tomcat -keystore ~tomcat6/.keystore

Yes.
If the server keys are DSA, then only cipher suites using DSS/*DSA
will be negotiated.
In this case, the only DSS cipher suite that your client appears to
support is TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_NULL_SHA, which isn't supported by Java 6
or 7.

> A side note: is it possibile to put tomcat behind a web server and make
> the latter encrypt in SSL? This would imply that communication between
> the web server and tomcat would be in clear, but how do I  create the
> connector proxy* information? I may specify proxyName and proxyPort, but
> I cannot specify proxyProtocol. Is this right?
>

tim

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Re: Tomcat does not accept connections from Safari on iPad vs an SSL connector with JSSE ciphers

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Tim,

On 3/3/13 4:18 PM, Tim Whittington wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Giuseppe Sacco 
> <gi...@eppesuigoccas.homedns.org> wrote: [...]
> 
>> I listed all providers here: 
>> http://centrum.lixper.it/~giuseppe/ipad-tomcat-list-ciphers-no-bouncycastle.html
>>
>> 
as you may see, a few of them are TLS_RSA and TLS_DHE:
>> *       TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA *
>> TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA *
>> TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA *
>> TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA *
>> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA *
>> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
>> 
>> They are also listed as "default" ciphers, so -- if I understood
>> what default means -- they should not be enabled explicitly.
>> 
>> They overlap with those client ciphers: 
>> TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA 
>> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA 
>> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
>> 
>> Is there any possibility that some of those server ciphers are
>> disabled because of the algorithm used in the server certificate?
>> Its signature algorithm is SHA1withDSA. I created it with this
>> command line: keytool -genkeypair -alias tomcat -keystore
>> ~tomcat6/.keystore
> 
> Yes. If the server keys are DSA, then only cipher suites using
> DSS/*DSA will be negotiated. In this case, the only DSS cipher
> suite that your client appears to support is
> TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_NULL_SHA, which isn't supported by Java 6 or 7.

Good catch. I recently tried to get a DSA key to work *at all* with
Apache httpd and I simply could not. I didn't try too hard, honestly,
because I didn't really care.

My recommendation would be to stick with an RSA key unless you have
some specific reason not to use one (and I'd like to hear that reason).

- -chris
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