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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/19 10:19:07 UTC
[DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Hi all,
In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
Thoughts ?
-Sebastien
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:17 AM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>
>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>
>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
> I will reply to it.
>
> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
>
> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>> To: cloudstack
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>>
>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>
>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>>
>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>>
>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>
>
+1 to this approach... both in terms of segregating the "marketplace"
and CloudStack code, as well as the goal of providing the list of
available templates from within the *template* selection UI.
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
:) thanks. I don't want to be a PIA, but I suspect I might poke folks a few times over coming months. Apologies in advance.
On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>
wrote:
> John ,
>
> What I meant was that I'll ask Jie to look more exclusively into this issue and have Brian as well express his opinion on the same on the mailing list itself so that we can collaborate on the work for marketplace integration with Sebastien moving forward. As you have seen , Jie has already given a detailed explanation of what the idea is behind creating a marketplace and what sort of issues we can run into while integrating it.
>
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:45 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Is there some reason this can't be discussed on the mailing list?
>
> John
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>
>> This does makes sense and perhaps seems to be the most logical approach to integrate marketplace . I 'll be initiating some more discussions on the same with Jie and Brian and thereafter we can have a plugin code available on github , as very rightly mentioned by you , unless we can think off some other alternative solution.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:47 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>
>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>
>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>
>> Hi Pranav,
>>
>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>> I will reply to it.
>>
>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
>>
>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>
>> Does that make sense ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>> To: cloudstack
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>>>
>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>
>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>>>
>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>>>
>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>
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>
>
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RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
John ,
What I meant was that I'll ask Jie to look more exclusively into this issue and have Brian as well express his opinion on the same on the mailing list itself so that we can collaborate on the work for marketplace integration with Sebastien moving forward. As you have seen , Jie has already given a detailed explanation of what the idea is behind creating a marketplace and what sort of issues we can run into while integrating it.
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:45 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Is there some reason this can't be discussed on the mailing list?
John
On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi Sebastien ,
>
> This does makes sense and perhaps seems to be the most logical approach to integrate marketplace . I 'll be initiating some more discussions on the same with Jie and Brian and thereafter we can have a plugin code available on github , as very rightly mentioned by you , unless we can think off some other alternative solution.
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:47 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>
>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>
>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
> I will reply to it.
>
> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
>
> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>> To: cloudstack
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>>
>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>
>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>>
>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>>
>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>
>
Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
o: 415.315.9385
@johnlkinsella
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
Is there some reason this can't be discussed on the mailing list?
John
On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi Sebastien ,
>
> This does makes sense and perhaps seems to be the most logical approach to integrate marketplace . I 'll be initiating some more discussions on the same with Jie and Brian and thereafter we can have a plugin code available on github , as very rightly mentioned by you , unless we can think off some other alternative solution.
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:47 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>
>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>
>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
> I will reply to it.
>
> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
>
> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>> To: cloudstack
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>>
>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>
>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>>
>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>>
>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>
>
Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
o: 415.315.9385
@johnlkinsella
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sebastien ,
This does makes sense and perhaps seems to be the most logical approach to integrate marketplace . I 'll be initiating some more discussions on the same with Jie and Brian and thereafter we can have a plugin code available on github , as very rightly mentioned by you , unless we can think off some other alternative solution.
Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:47 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Hi Sebastien ,
>
> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>
> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
Hi Pranav,
You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
I will reply to it.
My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
Does that make sense ?
-Sebastien
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
> To: cloudstack
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi all,
>
> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>
> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>
> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>
> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>
> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> -Sebastien
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Jie Feng <Ji...@citrix.com>.
I was out for a few weeks. I will update the wiki today to reflect the discussion in the community. To clarify one point from an earlier post by Sebastien, the marketplace code I am referring to is the client piece.
Jie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:53 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Pranav Saxena
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> [Sebastien] - Was the page updated to take into account all the
> discussions that happened on the ML ?
> >>
> >> Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had
> all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo
> listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
> >>
> >> [Pranav] - Yes , Sebastien . So currently we just have a very basic client
> /plugin side code which creates a tab for marketplace tab on the cloudstack
> UI . Clicking on that would point to a new user interface which fetches the
> content and images/thumbnails dynamically from dummy config files . You
> can imagine it as a tile-like structure displaying N number of applications
> uploaded by each user. It does NOT contain any core marketplace code.
> >>
> >
> > I created a sub-task of CLOUDSTACK-619:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-619 for the opennebula
> integration.
> >
> > Right now, I don't believe the wiki page has been updated to reflect all the
> discussion on the ML, see:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Mar
> k
> > etplace+Proposal
> >
> > My plan is to use the opennebula marketplace api to populate the "dummy
> config files". The marketplace server and api keys should probably be
> configured as global settings.
> >
> > Who is doing a separate marketplace repo using your own code (not the UI
> client code ) ?
> >
> > -Sebastien
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Sonny, you are currently the assignee in CLOUDSTACK-619. Do you think we
> can get the functional spec updated to reflect the list discussions on this
> topic?
>
> The spec, as it currently stands, still reflects some of the concepts that I have
> a standing veto on. I'd be very happy if we work around the issues that I
> (and others) have raised in the design and implementation.
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> [Sebastien] - Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
>>
>> Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
>>
>> [Pranav] - Yes , Sebastien . So currently we just have a very basic client /plugin side code which creates a tab for marketplace tab on the cloudstack UI . Clicking on that would point to a new user interface which fetches the content and images/thumbnails dynamically from dummy config files . You can imagine it as a tile-like structure displaying N number of applications uploaded by each user. It does NOT contain any core marketplace code.
>>
>
> I created a sub-task of CLOUDSTACK-619: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-619 for the opennebula integration.
>
> Right now, I don't believe the wiki page has been updated to reflect all the discussion on the ML, see:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Marketplace+Proposal
>
> My plan is to use the opennebula marketplace api to populate the "dummy config files". The marketplace server and api keys should probably be configured as global settings.
>
> Who is doing a separate marketplace repo using your own code (not the UI client code ) ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
>
Sonny, you are currently the assignee in CLOUDSTACK-619. Do you think
we can get the functional spec updated to reflect the list discussions
on this topic?
The spec, as it currently stands, still reflects some of the concepts
that I have a standing veto on. I'd be very happy if we work around
the issues that I (and others) have raised in the design and
implementation.
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com> wrote:
> [Sebastien] - Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
>
> Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
>
> [Pranav] - Yes , Sebastien . So currently we just have a very basic client /plugin side code which creates a tab for marketplace tab on the cloudstack UI . Clicking on that would point to a new user interface which fetches the content and images/thumbnails dynamically from dummy config files . You can imagine it as a tile-like structure displaying N number of applications uploaded by each user. It does NOT contain any core marketplace code.
>
I created a sub-task of CLOUDSTACK-619: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-619 for the opennebula integration.
Right now, I don't believe the wiki page has been updated to reflect all the discussion on the ML, see:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Marketplace+Proposal
My plan is to use the opennebula marketplace api to populate the "dummy config files". The marketplace server and api keys should probably be configured as global settings.
Who is doing a separate marketplace repo using your own code (not the UI client code ) ?
-Sebastien
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:56 PM
> To: Pranav Saxena
> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sebastien for the update ! The plan looks great .
>>
>> The marketplace plugin we were developing for Cloudstack is in our feature branch - asf/marketplace-prototype and we have the basic prototype working for which the details about its structure are there on Jie's marketplace proposal page .
>
> Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
>
> Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
>
>
>> We need to improve upon its design and customized looks. Please let us know if we could help you out in whatsoever ways possible.
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to you !
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pranav
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:15 PM
>> To: Pranav Saxena
>> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi Pranav,
>>
>> Due to the holiday season I expect a light volume of updates.
>>
>> That said I believe that a consensus has been reached. The marketplace core code and the repositories should be placed somewhere outside of the Apache repository.
>>
>> The marketplace "client" could be submitted to the Apache repo with the concept of a marketplace plugin.
>>
>> I informed the Opennebula guys of this development and pointed them to Jie's wiki page and the threads discussing Marketplace. I hope to get them engaged in actual testing and development after the new year.
>>
>> I hope that before feature freeze of 4.1 we can have a marketplace "plugin" with demonstrated use of "Jie's" marketplace as well as the opennebula marketplace. This would make for a very nice story and would be a nice ecosystem.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
>>>
>>> Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
>>>
>>> @ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
>>> To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>> Hi Sebastien,
>>>
>>> It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
>>>
>>> There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
>>>
>>> 1. Who can import the listings/templates?
>>> 2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
>>> 3. What is the UI for admin and user?
>>> 4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
>>>
>>> Jie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>>>
>>>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
>>>> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
>>>> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
>>>> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
>>>> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>>>
>>>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
>>>>> Last time
>>>> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of
>>>> marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pranav,
>>>>
>>>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet
>>>> reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>>>> I will reply to it.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces
>>>> in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
>>>> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
>>>> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion
>>>> that we have several storage backends.
>>>>
>>>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
>>>> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>>>
>>>> Does that make sense ?
>>>>
>>>> -Sebastien
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pranav
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>>>> To: cloudstack
>>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
>>>> marketplace:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>>>
>>>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
>>>> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
>>>> CloudStack.
>>>>>
>>>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
>>>>> develop
>>>> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace
>>>> into a CloudStack deployment.
>>>>>
>>>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
>>>> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are
>>>> in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sebastien
>>>
>>
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
[Sebastien] - Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
[Pranav] - Yes , Sebastien . So currently we just have a very basic client /plugin side code which creates a tab for marketplace tab on the cloudstack UI . Clicking on that would point to a new user interface which fetches the content and images/thumbnails dynamically from dummy config files . You can imagine it as a tile-like structure displaying N number of applications uploaded by each user. It does NOT contain any core marketplace code.
Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Pranav Saxena
Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Thanks Sebastien for the update ! The plan looks great .
>
> The marketplace plugin we were developing for Cloudstack is in our feature branch - asf/marketplace-prototype and we have the basic prototype working for which the details about its structure are there on Jie's marketplace proposal page .
Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
> We need to improve upon its design and customized looks. Please let us know if we could help you out in whatsoever ways possible.
>
> Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to you !
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:15 PM
> To: Pranav Saxena
> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> Due to the holiday season I expect a light volume of updates.
>
> That said I believe that a consensus has been reached. The marketplace core code and the repositories should be placed somewhere outside of the Apache repository.
>
> The marketplace "client" could be submitted to the Apache repo with the concept of a marketplace plugin.
>
> I informed the Opennebula guys of this development and pointed them to Jie's wiki page and the threads discussing Marketplace. I hope to get them engaged in actual testing and development after the new year.
>
> I hope that before feature freeze of 4.1 we can have a marketplace "plugin" with demonstrated use of "Jie's" marketplace as well as the opennebula marketplace. This would make for a very nice story and would be a nice ecosystem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
>>
>> Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
>>
>> @ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
>> To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi Sebastien,
>>
>> It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
>>
>> There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
>>
>> 1. Who can import the listings/templates?
>> 2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
>> 3. What is the UI for admin and user?
>> 4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
>>
>> Jie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>>
>>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
>>> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
>>> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
>>> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
>>> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>>
>>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
>>>> Last time
>>> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of
>>> marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>>
>>> Hi Pranav,
>>>
>>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet
>>> reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>>> I will reply to it.
>>>
>>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces
>>> in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
>>> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
>>> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion
>>> that we have several storage backends.
>>>
>>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
>>> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense ?
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>>> To: cloudstack
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
>>> marketplace:
>>>>
>>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>>
>>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
>>> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
>>> CloudStack.
>>>>
>>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
>>>> develop
>>> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace
>>> into a CloudStack deployment.
>>>>
>>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
>>> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are
>>> in the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> -Sebastien
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Thanks Sebastien for the update ! The plan looks great .
>
> The marketplace plugin we were developing for Cloudstack is in our feature branch - asf/marketplace-prototype and we have the basic prototype working for which the details about its structure are there on Jie's marketplace proposal page .
Was the page updated to take into account all the discussions that happened on the ML ?
Also what is in this feature branch ? I believe it was created before we had all the discussions. Does it contain the core marketplace code and the repo listings components ? It should only contain the "client"/plugin side.
> We need to improve upon its design and customized looks. Please let us know if we could help you out in whatsoever ways possible.
>
> Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to you !
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:15 PM
> To: Pranav Saxena
> Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> Due to the holiday season I expect a light volume of updates.
>
> That said I believe that a consensus has been reached. The marketplace core code and the repositories should be placed somewhere outside of the Apache repository.
>
> The marketplace "client" could be submitted to the Apache repo with the concept of a marketplace plugin.
>
> I informed the Opennebula guys of this development and pointed them to Jie's wiki page and the threads discussing Marketplace. I hope to get them engaged in actual testing and development after the new year.
>
> I hope that before feature freeze of 4.1 we can have a marketplace "plugin" with demonstrated use of "Jie's" marketplace as well as the opennebula marketplace. This would make for a very nice story and would be a nice ecosystem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
>>
>> Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
>>
>> @ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pranav
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
>> To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>> Hi Sebastien,
>>
>> It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
>>
>> There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
>>
>> 1. Who can import the listings/templates?
>> 2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
>> 3. What is the UI for admin and user?
>> 4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
>>
>> Jie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>>
>>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
>>> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
>>> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
>>> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
>>> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>>
>>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
>>>> Last time
>>> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace
>>> and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>>
>>> Hi Pranav,
>>>
>>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet
>>> reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>>> I will reply to it.
>>>
>>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in
>>> general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
>>> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
>>> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion
>>> that we have several storage backends.
>>>
>>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
>>> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense ?
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>>> To: cloudstack
>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
>>> marketplace:
>>>>
>>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>>
>>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
>>> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
>>> CloudStack.
>>>>
>>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
>>>> develop
>>> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace
>>> into a CloudStack deployment.
>>>>
>>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
>>> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in
>>> the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> -Sebastien
>>
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Thanks Sebastien for the update ! The plan looks great .
The marketplace plugin we were developing for Cloudstack is in our feature branch - asf/marketplace-prototype and we have the basic prototype working for which the details about its structure are there on Jie's marketplace proposal page . We need to improve upon its design and customized looks. Please let us know if we could help you out in whatsoever ways possible.
Merry Christmas and a very happy new year to you !
Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:15 PM
To: Pranav Saxena
Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Hi Pranav,
Due to the holiday season I expect a light volume of updates.
That said I believe that a consensus has been reached. The marketplace core code and the repositories should be placed somewhere outside of the Apache repository.
The marketplace "client" could be submitted to the Apache repo with the concept of a marketplace plugin.
I informed the Opennebula guys of this development and pointed them to Jie's wiki page and the threads discussing Marketplace. I hope to get them engaged in actual testing and development after the new year.
I hope that before feature freeze of 4.1 we can have a marketplace "plugin" with demonstrated use of "Jie's" marketplace as well as the opennebula marketplace. This would make for a very nice story and would be a nice ecosystem.
Cheers,
-Sebastien
On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
>
> Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
>
> @ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
>
> Thanks,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
> To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi Sebastien,
>
> It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
>
> There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
>
> 1. Who can import the listings/templates?
> 2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
> 3. What is the UI for admin and user?
> 4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
>
> Jie
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>
>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
>> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
>> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
>> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
>> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>
>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
>>> Last time
>> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace
>> and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>
>> Hi Pranav,
>>
>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet
>> reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>> I will reply to it.
>>
>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in
>> general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
>> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
>> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion
>> that we have several storage backends.
>>
>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
>> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>
>> Does that make sense ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>> To: cloudstack
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
>> marketplace:
>>>
>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>
>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
>> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
>> CloudStack.
>>>
>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
>>> develop
>> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace
>> into a CloudStack deployment.
>>>
>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
>> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in
>> the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hi Pranav,
Due to the holiday season I expect a light volume of updates.
That said I believe that a consensus has been reached. The marketplace core code and the repositories should be placed somewhere outside of the Apache repository.
The marketplace "client" could be submitted to the Apache repo with the concept of a marketplace plugin.
I informed the Opennebula guys of this development and pointed them to Jie's wiki page and the threads discussing Marketplace. I hope to get them engaged in actual testing and development after the new year.
I hope that before feature freeze of 4.1 we can have a marketplace "plugin" with demonstrated use of "Jie's" marketplace as well as the opennebula marketplace. This would make for a very nice story and would be a nice ecosystem.
Cheers,
-Sebastien
On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
>
> Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
>
> @ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
>
> Thanks,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
> To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi Sebastien,
>
> It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
>
> There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
>
> 1. Who can import the listings/templates?
> 2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
> 3. What is the UI for admin and user?
> 4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
>
> Jie
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sebastien ,
>>>
>>> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
>> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
>> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
>> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
>> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>>>
>>> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
>>> Last time
>> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace
>> and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>>
>> Hi Pranav,
>>
>> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached
>> consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
>> I will reply to it.
>>
>> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in
>> general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
>> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
>> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that
>> we have several storage backends.
>>
>> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
>> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>>
>> Does that make sense ?
>>
>> -Sebastien
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
>>> To: cloudstack
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
>> marketplace:
>>>
>>> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
>>> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>>>
>>> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
>> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
>> CloudStack.
>>>
>>> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
>>> develop
>> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into
>> a CloudStack deployment.
>>>
>>> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
>> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in
>> the marketplace within the template UI.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> -Sebastien
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sebastien/Jie ,
Any update on where are we currently on building up a marketplace for cloudstack ? Community consensus ?
@ Sebastien - As you suggested , is there any update from the OpenNebula guys ?
Thanks,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: Jie Feng [mailto:Jie.Feng@citrix.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
To: sebgoa; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Hi Sebastien,
It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
1. Who can import the listings/templates?
2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
3. What is the UI for admin and user?
4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
Jie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebastien ,
> >
> > The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that
> since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack
> marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula
> Marketplace by modifying the URL .
> >
> > But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ?
> > Last time
> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace
> and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached
> consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
> I will reply to it.
>
> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in
> general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but
> commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that
> we have several storage backends.
>
> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be
> used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pranav
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
> > To: cloudstack
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
> marketplace:
> >
> > http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
> > http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
> >
> > I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
> CloudStack.
> >
> > The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and
> > develop
> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into
> a CloudStack deployment.
> >
> > A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in
> the marketplace within the template UI.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > -Sebastien
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Jie Feng <Ji...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sebastien,
It is great to hear that you want to build hook for Opennebula marketplace listings into CloudStack. The more we can do to enable products and services for our Cloudstack users, the better. Since Opennebula listings are all templates, you can build hooks directly into the CloudStack Template UI, or into CloudStack Marketplace (once we have consensus).
There are a few things to think about to build hooks into the CloudStack UI, as I have gone through those when I was thinking about the CS Marketplace feature:
1. Who can import the listings/templates?
2. Who owns the listing? In CloudStack, templates have to belong to an account. When I designed CS Marketplace, I made the listing ownerless.
3. What is the UI for admin and user?
4. What listing items user can see? For example, the template might be for KVM, where the cloud only supports XenServer/VMware. Do you filter it out? For CS Marketplace, I don't filter it out since I can group multiple templates into one listing entry, and user can pick which one to instantiate.
Jie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:17 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jie Feng; Sonny Chhen
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebastien ,
> >
> > The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the
> Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we
> already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was
> working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying
> the URL .
> >
> > But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time
> there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I
> reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
>
> Hi Pranav,
>
> You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached
> consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
> I will reply to it.
>
> My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general
> but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code.
> That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit
> the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several
> storage backends.
>
> Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to
> connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
> -Sebastien
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pranav
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
> > To: cloudstack
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula
> marketplace:
> >
> > http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
> > http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
> >
> > I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben
> Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with
> CloudStack.
> >
> > The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop
> hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a
> CloudStack deployment.
> >
> > A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula
> marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the
> marketplace within the template UI.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > -Sebastien
Re: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Pranav Saxena wrote:
> Hi Sebastien ,
>
> The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
>
> But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
Hi Pranav,
You are right in that the other marketplace thread has not yet reached consensus. We need to bring it to consensus.
I will reply to it.
My understanding though is that folks are in favor of marketplaces in general but that the code of such marketplace should not be in the cloudstack code. That means that you could put your marketplace code on github but commit the "hooks" to it in cloudstack. In a very similar fashion that we have several storage backends.
Where it links to opennebula's marketplace is if your hooks can be used to connect to their marketplace. That'd be great.
Does that make sense ?
-Sebastien
>
> Regards,
> Pranav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
> To: cloudstack
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
>
> Hi all,
>
> In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
>
> http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
> http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
>
> I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
>
> The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
>
> A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> -Sebastien
RE: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sebastien ,
The openNebula marketplace looks good . Regarding the plugin on the Cloudstack UI , we can provide you/leads of Opennebula with that since we already have it developed for the actual Cloudstack marketplace I was working on and make it point to the OpenNebula Marketplace by modifying the URL .
But first the question arises , is the community in favor of this ? Last time there were some issues on the ML regarding integration of marketplace and I reckon , we are yet to reach a consensus.
Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49 PM
To: cloudstack
Subject: [DISCUSS] Opennebula marketplace integration
Hi all,
In the previous marketplace discussion I mentioned the Opennebula marketplace:
http://marketplace.c12g.com/appliance
http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel3.8:marketplace
I talked to the leads of opennebula: Ignacio de Lorente and Ruben Montero and they are interested to integrate their marketplace with CloudStack.
The concept is to leave the marketplace itself where it is and develop hooks/plugins in CloudStack to import images from the marketplace into a CloudStack deployment.
A user would set a global settings 'marketplace' to the opennebula marketplace server. This would in turn display the images that are in the marketplace within the template UI.
Thoughts ?
-Sebastien