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Sanselan Graduation
Hi,
finally we have passed all votes successfully to graduate Sanselan to
commons. Thanks for everyone helping!
So, what are the next steps?
As mailing list etc is already in place, I guess we just have to move
the svn and website and then close the sanselan incubator stuff, right?
Regards
Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Phil Steitz wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>>
>>>
>> What about the sanselan committers? Are they already commons committers?
>> (I know that I'm one...)
>> Do they get voted in if not?
>>
> Yes, we voted the active committers in. All should have Karma. Welcome
> to Commons!
>
Thanks :)
Carsten
> Phil
>> Regards
>> Carsten
>>
>>> Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>
>>
> What about the sanselan committers? Are they already commons committers?
> (I know that I'm one...)
> Do they get voted in if not?
>
Yes, we voted the active committers in. All should have Karma. Welcome
to Commons!
Phil
> Regards
> Carsten
>
>> Carsten
>>
>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>
What about the sanselan committers? Are they already commons committers?
(I know that I'm one...)
Do they get voted in if not?
Regards
Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>
>> I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
>> and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
>>
>> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>>
> Thanks Niall.
>
> So far we used confluence to manage our site
> (http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan)
>
> How can/should we integrate that into the website?
Don' t know haven't used confluence, and you'll be the first in
commons. For now theres a "Documentation" link on the maven generated
site to sanselan's confluence page - but I guess you'll be leading the
way on this.
Niall
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Charles Matthew Chen <ch...@gmail.com>.
This looks great.
http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
Thanks,
Charles Matthew
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>>> I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
>>>> and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
>>>>
>>>> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>>>>
>>> Thanks Niall.
>>>
>>> So far we used confluence to manage our site
>>> (http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan)
>>>
>>> How can/should we integrate that into the website?
>>
>> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
>> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
>> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
>> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
>> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>>
> Wow :)
>
> Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
> time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
> incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
> Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
> projects are doing here.
> So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
> use of your work :)
>
> Thanks
> Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Charles Matthew Chen
<ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rahul,
>
> That's right - we're going to use the Commons website as the
> official documentation going forward.
>
> However, the old confluence wiki is still up: its going to fall out
> of date; I'd like to update it to point to the new site.
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/SANSELAN/
>
> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>
<snip/>
Makes sense. Theres probably a cwiki admin or two on this list, but if
you don't get a response here then ping infra and you should be
pointed in the right direction.
> Also - to ask a stupid question - how does the one update the maven site?
>
<snap/>
You're probably aware of some of this, but for completeness:
* Here is the source to the site:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/sanselan/trunk/src/site/xdoc/
* Here is the mini-guide to maven sites:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-site.html
* Here is the maven site plugin info:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-site-plugin/
* Specifically, see "Deploying a Site" section in usage guide
(deploying will place files on people, these will rsync and go live in
about a couple of hours thereafter):
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-site-plugin/usage.html
Please ask if there are any further specific questions about updating
Commons sites.
-Rahul
> Matthew
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Charles Matthew Chen
>> <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to update the Sanselan confluence wiki - my login
>>> doesn't seem to work. Who is the best person to talk to about this?
>>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Not sure, rest of Commons doesn't use confluence (we use Moin).
>>
>> Can you clarify -- niallp converted much of the cwiki content into the
>> website [1] and earlier in this thread it seemed like everyone
>> (importantly, you and cziegeler) was OK using the maven site as the
>> basis for (official) documentation going forward. Did anything change?
>>
>> -Rahul
>>
>> [1] http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>>
>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Charles Matthew Chen <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rahul,
That's right - we're going to use the Commons website as the
official documentation going forward.
However, the old confluence wiki is still up: its going to fall out
of date; I'd like to update it to point to the new site.
http://cwiki.apache.org/SANSELAN/
http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
Also - to ask a stupid question - how does the one update the maven site?
Matthew
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Charles Matthew Chen
> <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm trying to update the Sanselan confluence wiki - my login
>> doesn't seem to work. Who is the best person to talk to about this?
>>
> <snip/>
>
> Not sure, rest of Commons doesn't use confluence (we use Moin).
>
> Can you clarify -- niallp converted much of the cwiki content into the
> website [1] and earlier in this thread it seemed like everyone
> (importantly, you and cziegeler) was OK using the maven site as the
> basis for (official) documentation going forward. Did anything change?
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Charles Matthew
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> <snip/>
>>>>>
>>>>> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
>>>>> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
>>>>> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
>>>>> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
>>>>> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>>>>>
>>>> Wow :)
>>>>
>>>> Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
>>>> time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
>>>> incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
>>>> Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
>>>> projects are doing here.
>>> <snap/>
>>>
>>> I'd say so too, thanks.
>>>
>>> -Rahul
>>>
>>>
>>>> So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
>>>> use of your work :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Carsten
>>>> --
>>>> Carsten Ziegeler
>>>> cziegeler@apache.org
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Charles Matthew Chen
<ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to update the Sanselan confluence wiki - my login
> doesn't seem to work. Who is the best person to talk to about this?
>
<snip/>
Not sure, rest of Commons doesn't use confluence (we use Moin).
Can you clarify -- niallp converted much of the cwiki content into the
website [1] and earlier in this thread it seemed like everyone
(importantly, you and cziegeler) was OK using the maven site as the
basis for (official) documentation going forward. Did anything change?
-Rahul
[1] http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
> Thanks,
> Charles Matthew
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> <snip/>
>>>>
>>>> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
>>>> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
>>>> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
>>>> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
>>>> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>>>>
>>> Wow :)
>>>
>>> Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
>>> time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
>>> incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
>>> Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
>>> projects are doing here.
>> <snap/>
>>
>> I'd say so too, thanks.
>>
>> -Rahul
>>
>>
>>> So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
>>> use of your work :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carsten
>>> --
>>> Carsten Ziegeler
>>> cziegeler@apache.org
>>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Charles Matthew Chen <ch...@gmail.com>.
I'm trying to update the Sanselan confluence wiki - my login
doesn't seem to work. Who is the best person to talk to about this?
Thanks,
Charles Matthew
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
> <snip/>
>>>
>>> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
>>> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
>>> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
>>> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
>>> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>>>
>> Wow :)
>>
>> Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
>> time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
>> incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
>> Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
>> projects are doing here.
> <snap/>
>
> I'd say so too, thanks.
>
> -Rahul
>
>
>> So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
>> use of your work :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carsten
>> --
>> Carsten Ziegeler
>> cziegeler@apache.org
>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
<snip/>
>>
>> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
>> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
>> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
>> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
>> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>>
> Wow :)
>
> Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
> time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
> incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
> Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
> projects are doing here.
<snap/>
I'd say so too, thanks.
-Rahul
> So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
> use of your work :)
>
> Thanks
> Carsten
> --
> Carsten Ziegeler
> cziegeler@apache.org
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>> I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
>>> and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
>>>
>>> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>>>
>> Thanks Niall.
>>
>> So far we used confluence to manage our site
>> (http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan)
>>
>> How can/should we integrate that into the website?
>
> One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
> is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
> Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
> sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
> what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
>
Wow :)
Ok, actually I don't care that much if we use Confluence or not - at the
time it seems to be the easiest solution for Sanselan when it hit the
incubator; given that no other project here at commons is using
Confluence it seems to be more appropriate to me to do what other
projects are doing here.
So if noone else complains about moving away from Confluence, let's make
use of your work :)
Thanks
Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>>
>> I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
>> and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
>>
>> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>>
> Thanks Niall.
>
> So far we used confluence to manage our site
> (http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan)
>
> How can/should we integrate that into the website?
One option is to port it to xdoc and use maven to generate it - which
is what the rest of the components do. I've done this from the
Confluence content and it should be available to see after the next
sync. If you want to stick with Confluence, then feel free to dump
what I've done - just wanted to provide it as an alternative option.
Niall
> Carsten
>
> --
> Carsten Ziegeler
> cziegeler@apache.org
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
>
> I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
> and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
>
> http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
>
Thanks Niall.
So far we used confluence to manage our site
(http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan)
How can/should we integrate that into the website?
Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
I've moved the m2 build to use the commons-parent pom and generated
and uploaded the site, should appear after the next sync here:
http://commons.apache.org/sanselan/
Niall
> Carsten
>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Ok, as a first step, I moved the svn :)
Carsten
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Ok, so for moving the code, what directory name should we use?
>
As with all things commons, just imitate the other components ;)
We decided to accept sanselan into commons proper, so the correct svn
url for the trunk should be
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/sanselan/trunk/
Phil
> Carsten
>
> Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>> Off the top of my head:
>>
>> Wiki? JIRA rename/category change? Closing of old mailing list?
>> Updating Incubator page to indicate graduation?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> finally we have passed all votes successfully to graduate Sanselan to
>>> commons. Thanks for everyone helping!
>>>
>>> So, what are the next steps?
>>> As mailing list etc is already in place, I guess we just have to move
>>> the svn and website and then close the sanselan incubator stuff, right?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Carsten
>>> --
>>> Carsten Ziegeler
>>> cziegeler@apache.org
>>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Ok, so for moving the code, what directory name should we use?
Carsten
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Off the top of my head:
>
> Wiki? JIRA rename/category change? Closing of old mailing list?
> Updating Incubator page to indicate graduation?
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> finally we have passed all votes successfully to graduate Sanselan to
>> commons. Thanks for everyone helping!
>>
>> So, what are the next steps?
>> As mailing list etc is already in place, I guess we just have to move
>> the svn and website and then close the sanselan incubator stuff, right?
>>
>> Regards
>> Carsten
>> --
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>> cziegeler@apache.org
>>
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Re: Sanselan Graduation
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
Off the top of my head:
Wiki? JIRA rename/category change? Closing of old mailing list?
Updating Incubator page to indicate graduation?
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Carsten Ziegeler<cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> finally we have passed all votes successfully to graduate Sanselan to
> commons. Thanks for everyone helping!
>
> So, what are the next steps?
> As mailing list etc is already in place, I guess we just have to move
> the svn and website and then close the sanselan incubator stuff, right?
>
> Regards
> Carsten
> --
> Carsten Ziegeler
> cziegeler@apache.org
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