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Posted to dev@felix.apache.org by "Hampel, Michael" <mi...@siemens.com> on 2007/09/25 09:25:51 UTC

maven-bundle-plugin

Hello again,
 
after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
automatically within
the install phase. 
I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
execution and can I
stop it somehow?
 
Thanx in advance for any help,
 
Michael

Re: AW: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stuart McCulloch <st...@jayway.net>.
On 25/09/2007, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
>
> Ultimately, I agree with Michael that it seems that you would somehow
> want to specifically say whether you want to do this as opposed to
> having it happen automatically.


certainly that's my own preference, as it doesn't cause any surprises!

but I would like to try to accommodate simple OBR installation if
possible...

However, I don't have the time to
> actually play with it right now to see exactly what it is doing...


no worries, I'm happy digging around in maven code ;)

-> richard
>
> Hampel, Michael wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please don't get me wrong - I think the obr plugin provides valuable
> functionality and
> > makes provisioning now a lot easier.
> > I only didn't see the reason why the goals had to be run within the
> > maven-bundle-plugin:bundle goal - I only wanted more configuration
> freedom:)
> > (I am sure the obr plugin will not cause any errors but you also know
> Maven...)
> >
> >
> > Thanx again,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hello Stuart,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your answer.
> >> I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
> >> "deployment") automatically?
> >> What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly
> so I
> >> have the possibility to
> >> control what I am executing?
> >>
> >
> >
> > updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take
> advantage
> > of other
> > OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
> > application bundles.
> > The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they
> do
> > let us know!
> >
> > Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
> > story?
> >
> > (Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
> >
> >> enable this?)
> >>
> >
> >
> > correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom
> >
> > Thanx again,
> >
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
> >> McCulloch
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
> >> An: dev@felix.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
> >>
> >> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello again,
> >>>
> >>> after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> >>> automatically within
> >>> the install phase.
> >>> I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> >>> execution and can I
> >>> stop it somehow?
> >>>
> >> this was added recently in FELIX-370:
> >>
> >>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
> >>
> >> you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
> >>
> >>    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
> >>
> >> but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
> >>
> >> Thanx in advance for any help,
> >>
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Stuart
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Cheers, Stuart

Re: AW: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
Ultimately, I agree with Michael that it seems that you would somehow 
want to specifically say whether you want to do this as opposed to 
having it happen automatically. However, I don't have the time to 
actually play with it right now to see exactly what it is doing...

-> richard

Hampel, Michael wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Please don't get me wrong - I think the obr plugin provides valuable functionality and
> makes provisioning now a lot easier.
> I only didn't see the reason why the goals had to be run within the
> maven-bundle-plugin:bundle goal - I only wanted more configuration freedom:)
> (I am sure the obr plugin will not cause any errors but you also know Maven...) 
>
>
> Thanx again,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>   
>> Hello Stuart,
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>> I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
>> "deployment") automatically?
>> What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so I
>> have the possibility to
>> control what I am executing?
>>     
>
>
> updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take advantage
> of other
> OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
> application bundles.
> The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they do
> let us know!
>
> Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
> story?
>
> (Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
>   
>> enable this?)
>>     
>
>
> correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom
>
> Thanx again,
>   
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
>> McCulloch
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
>> An: dev@felix.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
>>
>> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
>>> automatically within
>>> the install phase.
>>> I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
>>> execution and can I
>>> stop it somehow?
>>>       
>> this was added recently in FELIX-370:
>>
>>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
>>
>> you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
>>
>>    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
>>
>> but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
>>
>> Thanx in advance for any help,
>>     
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Cheers, Stuart
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stuart McCulloch <st...@jayway.net>.
On 25/09/2007, Stefano Lenzi <ki...@interfree.it> wrote:
>
> Stuart McCulloch wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > in fact the main Felix build just failed because of the new bundleplugin
> > snapshot!
> > for some reason Maven fetches the bundleplugin from the apache snapshots
> > repo,
> > but then only looks for the OBR plugin on central (never looks at the
> other
> > repo)
> >
> > I've deployed a new snapshot without the FELIX-370 changes to get the
> build
> > working again while I investigate what's going on with Maven.
>
> Do you have any clue on how to fix it?


yes - I have an idea, but I'm currently digging into maven internals to
verify

the problem at the moment is that maven looks at the combined build
life-cycle,
sees that the maven-obr-plugin is used and jumps straight to the central
repo to
look for it

the solution may involve a more programmatic approach to adding the goals
- that way we have control if for some reason maven can't find the obr
plugin

-- 
Cheers, Stuart

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stefano Lenzi <ki...@interfree.it>.
Stuart McCulloch wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> in fact the main Felix build just failed because of the new bundleplugin
> snapshot!
> for some reason Maven fetches the bundleplugin from the apache snapshots
> repo,
> but then only looks for the OBR plugin on central (never looks at the other
> repo)
> 
> I've deployed a new snapshot without the FELIX-370 changes to get the build
> working again while I investigate what's going on with Maven.

Do you have any clue on how to fix it?

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stuart McCulloch <st...@jayway.net>.
On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Please don't get me wrong - I think the obr plugin provides valuable
> functionality and
> makes provisioning now a lot easier.
> I only didn't see the reason why the goals had to be run within the
> maven-bundle-plugin:bundle goal - I only wanted more configuration
> freedom:)
> (I am sure the obr plugin will not cause any errors but you also know
> Maven...)


unfortunately all too well ;)

in fact the main Felix build just failed because of the new bundleplugin
snapshot!
for some reason Maven fetches the bundleplugin from the apache snapshots
repo,
but then only looks for the OBR plugin on central (never looks at the other
repo)

I've deployed a new snapshot without the FELIX-370 changes to get the build
working again while I investigate what's going on with Maven.

Thanx again,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> >
> > Hello Stuart,
> >
> > Thank you for your answer.
> > I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
> > "deployment") automatically?
> > What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so
> I
> > have the possibility to
> > control what I am executing?
>
>
> updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take
> advantage
> of other
> OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
> application bundles.
> The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they do
> let us know!
>
> Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
> story?
>
> (Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
> > enable this?)
>
>
> correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom
>
> Thanx again,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
> > McCulloch
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
> > An: dev@felix.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
> >
> > On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> > > automatically within
> > > the install phase.
> > > I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> > > execution and can I
> > > stop it somehow?
> >
> >
> > this was added recently in FELIX-370:
> >
> >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
> >
> > you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
> >
> >    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
> >
> > but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
> >
> > Thanx in advance for any help,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers, Stuart
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Stuart
>



-- 
Cheers, Stuart

AW: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by "Hampel, Michael" <mi...@siemens.com>.
Hello,

Please don't get me wrong - I think the obr plugin provides valuable functionality and
makes provisioning now a lot easier.
I only didn't see the reason why the goals had to be run within the
maven-bundle-plugin:bundle goal - I only wanted more configuration freedom:)
(I am sure the obr plugin will not cause any errors but you also know Maven...) 


Thanx again,

Michael



>
> Hello Stuart,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
> I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
> "deployment") automatically?
> What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so I
> have the possibility to
> control what I am executing?


updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take advantage
of other
OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
application bundles.
The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they do
let us know!

Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
story?

(Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
> enable this?)


correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom

Thanx again,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
> McCulloch
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
> An: dev@felix.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
>
> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> > automatically within
> > the install phase.
> > I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> > execution and can I
> > stop it somehow?
>
>
> this was added recently in FELIX-370:
>
>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
>
> you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
>
>    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
>
> but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
>
> Thanx in advance for any help,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Stuart
>



-- 
Cheers, Stuart

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stefano Lenzi <ki...@interfree.it>.
Stuart McCulloch wrote:
> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Stuart,
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>> I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
>> "deployment") automatically?
>> What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so I
>> have the possibility to
>> control what I am executing?
> 
> 
> updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take advantage
> of other
> OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
> application bundles.
> The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they do
> let us know!
> 
> Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
> story?

By default maven-obr-plugin was called during the "install" with the 
"repository" goal and during the "deploy" phase with the "deployment" 
are goal.

Also the default configuration of the maven-obr-plugin is that it skips 
the execution of the "deployment" goal during the deploy phase and 
execute the "repository" goal during the install phase.

IMO, invoking an plugin which just skips do not introduce a tangible 
overhead.

> 
> (Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
>> enable this?)
> 
> 
> correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom
> 
> Thanx again,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
>> McCulloch
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
>> An: dev@felix.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
>>
>> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
>>> automatically within
>>> the install phase.
>>> I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
>>> execution and can I
>>> stop it somehow?
>>
>> this was added recently in FELIX-370:
>>
>>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
>>
>> you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
>>
>>    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
>>
>> but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
>>
>> Thanx in advance for any help,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers, Stuart
>>
> 
> 
>

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stuart McCulloch <st...@jayway.net>.
On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Stuart,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
> I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository",
> "deployment") automatically?
> What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so I
> have the possibility to
> control what I am executing?


updating the OBR metadata automatically means you're able to take advantage
of other
OBR tooling provided by Felix, which can help when deploying your
application bundles.
The OBR goals shouldn't add much overhead or cause any errors - if they do
let us know!

Stefano / Clement - can you give more background to the OBR integration
story?

(Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would
> enable this?)


correct - you'd then have to add the OBR goals explicitly to your pom

Thanx again,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart
> McCulloch
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
> An: dev@felix.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin
>
> On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> > automatically within
> > the install phase.
> > I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> > execution and can I
> > stop it somehow?
>
>
> this was added recently in FELIX-370:
>
>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370
>
> you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:
>
>    -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false
>
> but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)
>
> Thanx in advance for any help,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Stuart
>



-- 
Cheers, Stuart

AW: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by "Hampel, Michael" <mi...@siemens.com>.
 Hello Stuart,

Thank you for your answer.
I guess there are good reasons why to run the goal(s) - ("repository", "deployment") automatically?
What speaks against adding the maven-obr-plugin in the pom explicitly so I have the possibility to
control what I am executing?
(Removing the goals from the maven-bundle-plugin's plexus config would enable this?)

Thanx again,

Michael 


 


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mcculls@gmail.com [mailto:mcculls@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stuart McCulloch
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2007 09:36
An: dev@felix.apache.org
Betreff: Re: maven-bundle-plugin

On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> automatically within
> the install phase.
> I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> execution and can I
> stop it somehow?


this was added recently in FELIX-370:

   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370

you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:

   -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false

but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)

Thanx in advance for any help,
>
> Michael
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers, Stuart

Re: maven-bundle-plugin

Posted by Stuart McCulloch <st...@jayway.net>.
On 25/09/2007, Hampel, Michael <mi...@siemens.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> after today's update of the maven-bundle-plugin the obr plugin is run
> automatically within
> the install phase.
> I have not added the obr-plugin to my pom - so who is triggering the
> execution and can I
> stop it somehow?


this was added recently in FELIX-370:

   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-370

you should be able to stop it from installing the OBR file using:

   -Dmaven.obr.installToLocalOBR=false

but I think it may still execute (just not do anything)

Thanx in advance for any help,
>
> Michael
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers, Stuart