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Posted to dev@shindig.apache.org by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> on 2008/03/29 02:46:53 UTC
Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Hey Shindig folks,
ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the list,
we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of Wednesday,
April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are planning
to be there.
Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in person.
In terms of an abstract for http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
am proposing we list:
Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure. This
project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
"container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress. Come
learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how to
get involved. Q&A welcome.
I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on Monday
or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
Dan Peterson
-- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
-- Brief project history
John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
-- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
Cassie Doll
-- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
-- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
-- Demo
Chris Chabot
-- Walk through the PHP server design
Q&A
Any suggestions or improvements?
Cheers,
-Dan
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Aaron Cheung <aa...@acheung.com>.
> Any suggestions or improvements?
Mightbe a little off topic -
Can we remove the Java dependency going forward? It made the whole
Shindig package unuseable -- because a lot of people don't like to use Java,
while yes I know there're still a lot of Java fans.. but non-fans are far more.
Thanks,
/ac.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Peterson" <dp...@google.com>
To: <sh...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
> Hey Shindig folks,
>
> ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the list,
> we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
>
> I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of Wednesday,
> April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
>
> I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are planning
> to be there.
>
> Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in person.
>
> In terms of an abstract for http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> am proposing we list:
>
> Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
> reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure. This
> project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress. Come
> learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how to
> get involved. Q&A welcome.
>
> I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on Monday
> or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
>
> I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
>
> Dan Peterson
> -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> -- Brief project history
>
> John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
>
> Cassie Doll
> -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> -- Demo
>
> Chris Chabot
> -- Walk through the PHP server design
>
> Q&A
>
> Any suggestions or improvements?
>
> Cheers,
> -Dan
>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by ni...@caret.cam.ac.uk.
Same thing over here. We are coming with 3 people on Wednesday
especially for the Shindig session.
Can anyone confirm?
Nicolaas
> Quoting Reinoud Elhorst <cl...@claude.nl>:
> I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't check
> the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon 2008 for
> the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the schedule has
> changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
>
> Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will like it
> if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > > >
> > > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the
> > list,
> > > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > > >
> > > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
> > > Wednesday,
> > > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > > >
> > > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are
> > > planning
> > > > to be there.
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in
> > > person.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
> > > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very unlikely as
> > > of now.
> > >
> > > > In terms of an abstract for
> > > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > > am proposing we list:
> > > >
> > > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
> > > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure.
> > This
> > > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> > > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress.
> > > Come
> > > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how
> > > to
> > > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on
> > > Monday
> > > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > > >
> > > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > > >
> > > > Dan Peterson
> > > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > > -- Brief project history
> > > >
> > > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > > >
> > > > Cassie Doll
> > > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > > -- Demo
> > > >
> > > > Chris Chabot
> > > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > > >
> > > > Q&A
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
> > > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what they
> > > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> > >
> > > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really short,
> > > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into any
> > > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions, etc.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions.
> >
> > Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
>
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Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by ni...@caret.cam.ac.uk.
Thanks a lot for changing this !
You have made my day :)
Nicolaas Matthijs
University of Cambridge
> Quoting Nóirín Shirley <no...@apache.org>:
> I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
> hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
> 20:30 on Wednesday.
>
> Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
> checking with the planners team for the event
> (planners-YEAR-eu@apachecon.com, or planners-YEAR-us@apachecon.com),
> and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
> coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
> the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
> is a whole other ballgame =)
>
> Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
> upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
> anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
> lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
> feel free to get in touch =)
>
> Noirin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> > So it looks like this was the change that did it:
> >
>
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08?action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55
> >
> > and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is setting up
> > the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to the thread)
> > then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?
> >
> > Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people planned their
> > flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the April 1st
> > switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any way we
> > can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!
> >
> > - Cassie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <ia...@caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Us also,
> > > Booked
> > > hotel rooms,
> > > flights, and
> > > conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof,
> would
> > have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost or the
> > time just at the moment.
> > >
> > > I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of those
> > coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
> > > ;(
> > >
> > > Any chance of moving it back ?
> > >
> > > Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant come
> > to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
> > > we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
> > originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start of the
> > year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based interaction
> > (168) and commentary such as
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
> > >
> > > Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we also
> > dont want to get in the way) :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
> > check
> > > > the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon
> 2008
> > for
> > > > the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the schedule
> > has
> > > > changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will
> like
> > it
> > > > if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
> > <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > list,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Wednesday,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I
> are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to be there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet
> > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
> > > > > > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
> > unlikely as
> > > > > > of now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In terms of an abstract for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am proposing we list:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming
> > the
> > > > > > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
> > infrastructure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > This
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> > > > > > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
> > progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Come
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find
> out
> > how
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com
> > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Monday
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan Peterson
> > > > > > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > > > > > -- Brief project history
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cassie Doll
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > > > > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > > > > > -- Demo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris Chabot
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Q&A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let
> people
> > > > > > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
> > they
> > > > > > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really
> > short,
> > > > > > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted
> into
> > any
> > > > > > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions,
> > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
Noirin, noted for the future! Very much appreciate the responsiveness here
in turning the date back.
My apologies on the misstep -- the wiki nature of the page made it look like
scheduling was "simply" first come, first serve -- mea culpa. Might I
recommend having the email address and steps to confirm listed on the wiki
page? I read "please do not edit this field yourself!" to mean people who
are attending a given BoF shouldn't do the accepting/scheduling, but it
seemed like the only way for the proposer to get a slot, so I did it.
Again, really grateful for your helping out here!
-Dan
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Nóirín Shirley <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
> hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
> 20:30 on Wednesday.
>
> Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
> checking with the planners team for the event
> (planners-YEAR-eu@apachecon.com, or planners-YEAR-us@apachecon.com),
> and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
> coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
> the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
> is a whole other ballgame =)
>
> Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
> upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
> anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
> lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
> feel free to get in touch =)
>
> Noirin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> > So it looks like this was the change that did it:
> >
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08?action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55
> >
> > and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is setting
> up
> > the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to the
> thread)
> > then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?
> >
> > Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people planned
> their
> > flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the April
> 1st
> > switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any way
> we
> > can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!
> >
> > - Cassie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <ia...@caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Us also,
> > > Booked
> > > hotel rooms,
> > > flights, and
> > > conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof,
> would
> > have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost or the
> > time just at the moment.
> > >
> > > I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of
> those
> > coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
> > > ;(
> > >
> > > Any chance of moving it back ?
> > >
> > > Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant
> come
> > to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
> > > we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
> > originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start of the
> > year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based interaction
> > (168) and commentary such as
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
> > > http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
> > >
> > > Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we
> also
> > dont want to get in the way) :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
> > check
> > > > the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon
> 2008
> > for
> > > > the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the
> schedule
> > has
> > > > changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will
> like
> > it
> > > > if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
> > <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on
> the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > list,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time
> of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Wednesday,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I
> are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > planning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to be there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to
> meet
> > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the
> Apachecon-us-2008
> > > > > > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
> > unlikely as
> > > > > > of now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In terms of an abstract for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am proposing we list:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is
> becoming
> > the
> > > > > > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
> > infrastructure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > This
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to
> become a
> > > > > > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
> > progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Come
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find
> out
> > how
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to send in an abstract to
> planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com
> > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Monday
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan Peterson
> > > > > > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > > > > > -- Brief project history
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cassie Doll
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > > > > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > > > > > -- Demo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris Chabot
> > > > > > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Q&A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let
> people
> > > > > > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
> > they
> > > > > > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are
> really
> > short,
> > > > > > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted
> into
> > any
> > > > > > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design
> decisions,
> > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Noirin,
Thank you, very much appreciated, should we have indicated interest
on the wiki or somewhere ?
Its quite probable that Dan only thought that 5 were coming and knew
all of them anyway ?
Ian
On 2 Apr 2008, at 12:16, Nóirín Shirley wrote:
> I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
> hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
> 20:30 on Wednesday.
>
> Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
> checking with the planners team for the event
> (planners-YEAR-eu@apachecon.com, or planners-YEAR-us@apachecon.com),
> and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
> coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
> the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
> is a whole other ballgame =)
>
> Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
> upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
> anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
> lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
> feel free to get in touch =)
>
> Noirin
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>> So it looks like this was the change that did it:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08?
>> action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55
>>
>> and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is
>> setting up
>> the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to
>> the thread)
>> then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?
>>
>> Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people
>> planned their
>> flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the
>> April 1st
>> switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any
>> way we
>> can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!
>>
>> - Cassie
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <ia...@caret.cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Us also,
>>> Booked
>>> hotel rooms,
>>> flights, and
>>> conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the
>>> ShindigBof, would
>> have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost
>> or the
>> time just at the moment.
>>>
>>> I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some
>>> of those
>> coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
>>> ;(
>>>
>>> Any chance of moving it back ?
>>>
>>> Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who
>>> cant come
>> to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
>>> we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
>> originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start
>> of the
>> year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based
>> interaction
>> (168) and commentary such as
>>> http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
>>> http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
>>> http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
>>>
>>> Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe
>>> (we also
>> dont want to get in the way) :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
>> check
>>>> the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to
>>>> apachecon 2008
>> for
>>>> the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the
>>>> schedule
>> has
>>>> changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer
>>>> will like
>> it
>>>> if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson
>>>> <dp...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
>> <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Shindig folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> list,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the
>>>>>>> time of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wednesday,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and
>>>>>>> I are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to be there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to
>>>>>>> meet
>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
>>>>>> planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
>> unlikely as
>>>>>> of now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In terms of an abstract for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> am proposing we list:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is
>>>>>>> becoming
>> the
>>>>>>> reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> project aims to make it easy for a new social website to
>>>>>>> become a
>>>>>>> "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
>> progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and
>>>>>>> find out
>> how
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> get involved. Q&A welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-
>>>>>>> eu@apachecon.com
>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan Peterson
>>>>>>> -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
>>>>>>> -- Brief project history
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
>>>>>>> -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cassie Doll
>>>>>>> -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
>>>>>>> -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
>>>>>>> -- Demo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Chabot
>>>>>>> -- Walk through the PHP server design
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Q&A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions or improvements?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
>> they
>>>>>> are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really
>> short,
>>>>>> in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really
>>>>>> fitted into
>> any
>>>>>> BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design
>>>>>> decisions,
>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Nóirín Shirley <no...@apache.org>.
I'm delighted to see so many people interested in a new project, and
hope you guys have a really successful BOF! I've switched it back to
20:30 on Wednesday.
Dan, in future, please, please don't schedule your BOF without first
checking with the planners team for the event
(planners-YEAR-eu@apachecon.com, or planners-YEAR-us@apachecon.com),
and letting us know you need to stick to the time given, if people are
coming in for just one day. I know you mailed us to say that you'd put
the BOF on the wiki - and flipped the "confirmed" bit - but scheduling
is a whole other ballgame =)
Cassie, thanks for mailing me - I'm the conference lead for the
upcoming conference in Amsterdam, and I really don't want to rain on
anyone's parade. That said, there's no way I can keep up with all the
lists we have at the ASF! So if there's anything you guys need, please
feel free to get in touch =)
Noirin
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Cassie <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> So it looks like this was the change that did it:
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08?action=diff&rev2=56&rev1=55
>
> and the change was made by Noirin who looks like someone who is setting up
> the bofs. Perhaps, if we ask Noirin very politely (added her to the thread)
> then she can help us get something rescheduled for Wednesday evening?
>
> Noirin - sorry for the problems around this, I think people planned their
> flights and hotels around the unconfirmed date only because the April 1st
> switch happened a little to late for reservations. If there is any way we
> can get this back to Wed that would be fantastic. Thanks!
>
> - Cassie
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Ian Boston <ia...@caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Us also,
> > Booked
> > hotel rooms,
> > flights, and
> > conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof, would
> have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford cost or the
> time just at the moment.
> >
> > I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of those
> coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
> > ;(
> >
> > Any chance of moving it back ?
> >
> > Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant come
> to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
> > we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
> originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start of the
> year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based interaction
> (168) and commentary such as
> > http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
> > http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
> > http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
> >
> > Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we also
> dont want to get in the way) :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
> >
> > > I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
> check
> > > the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon 2008
> for
> > > the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the schedule
> has
> > > changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will like
> it
> > > if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
> <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > list,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
> > > > > >
> > > > > Wednesday,
> > > > >
> > > > > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are
> > > > > >
> > > > > planning
> > > > >
> > > > > > to be there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet
> in
> > > > > >
> > > > > person.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
> > > > > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
> unlikely as
> > > > > of now.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > In terms of an abstract for
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > > >
> > > > > > am proposing we list:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming
> the
> > > > > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets
> infrastructure.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > This
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> > > > > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
> progress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Come
> > > > >
> > > > > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out
> how
> > > > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com
> on
> > > > > >
> > > > > Monday
> > > > >
> > > > > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan Peterson
> > > > > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > > > > -- Brief project history
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > > > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cassie Doll
> > > > > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > > > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > > > > -- Demo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Chabot
> > > > > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Q&A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
> > > > > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
> they
> > > > > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really
> short,
> > > > > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into
> any
> > > > > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions,
> etc.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > -Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Ian Boston <ia...@caret.cam.ac.uk>.
Us also,
Booked
hotel rooms,
flights, and
conference subs for 3 people specifically to come to the ShindigBof,
would have loved to attend the whole conference but we cant afford
cost or the time just at the moment.
I havent added it all up, but I know the budgets blown and some of
those coming need to be in other places on Thursday.
;(
Any chance of moving it back ?
Our interest is real, we are sending one of the developers who cant
come to Amsterdam to the London Hackathon as
we want to embed Shindig inside Sakai (http://www.sakaiproject.org)
originally prompted by the OpenSocial announcement at the start of
the year, work we have been doing to rewite sakai's portal based
interaction (168) and commentary such as
http://mfeldstein.com/google-announces-opener-social-software-apis/
http://mfeldstein.com/gadgets-instead-of-portlets/
http://mfeldstein.com/mashing-up-the-lms-the-google-way/
Just trying to say we don't want to sit at the back and observe (we
also dont want to get in the way) :)
Ian
On 2 Apr 2008, at 10:42, Reinoud Elhorst wrote:
> I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't
> check
> the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon
> 2008 for
> the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the
> schedule has
> changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
>
> Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will
> like it
> if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson
> <dp...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala
>> <sa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
>>>> Hey Shindig folks,
>>>>
>>>> ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the
>> list,
>>>> we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
>>>>
>>>> I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
>>> Wednesday,
>>>> April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
>>>>
>>>> I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are
>>> planning
>>>> to be there.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to
>>>> meet in
>>> person.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
>>> planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very
>>> unlikely as
>>> of now.
>>>
>>>> In terms of an abstract for
>>> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
>>>> am proposing we list:
>>>>
>>>> Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is
>>>> becoming the
>>>> reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure.
>> This
>>>> project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
>>>> "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid
>>>> progress.
>>> Come
>>>> learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find
>>>> out how
>>> to
>>>> get involved. Q&A welcome.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-
>>>> eu@apachecon.com on
>>> Monday
>>>> or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
>>>>
>>>> I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Dan Peterson
>>>> -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
>>>> -- Brief project history
>>>>
>>>> John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
>>>> -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
>>>>
>>>> Cassie Doll
>>>> -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
>>>> -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
>>>> -- Demo
>>>>
>>>> Chris Chabot
>>>> -- Walk through the PHP server design
>>>>
>>>> Q&A
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions or improvements?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
>>> unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what
>>> they
>>> are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
>>>
>>> Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really
>>> short,
>>> in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted
>>> into any
>>> BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design
>>> decisions, etc.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Reinoud Elhorst <cl...@claude.nl>.
I'm a little startled here. I'm supposed to go there (sorry, didn't check
the list for a while), and yesterday ordered 3 tickets to apachecon 2008 for
the Wednesday, specifically for Shindig. Now today I see the schedule has
changed and Shindig has moved to Thursday 21:30-22:30.
Can anyone confirm that it has moved? I'm not sure my employer will like it
if I need to order another 1000 euros of tickets.....
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > > Hey Shindig folks,
> > >
> > > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the
> list,
> > > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> > >
> > > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
> > Wednesday,
> > > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> > >
> > > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are
> > planning
> > > to be there.
> > >
> > > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in
> > person.
> > >
> >
> > Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
> > planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very unlikely as
> > of now.
> >
> > > In terms of an abstract for
> > http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > > am proposing we list:
> > >
> > > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
> > > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure.
> This
> > > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> > > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress.
> > Come
> > > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how
> > to
> > > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> > >
> > > I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on
> > Monday
> > > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> > >
> > > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> > >
> > > Dan Peterson
> > > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > > -- Brief project history
> > >
> > > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> > >
> > > Cassie Doll
> > > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > > -- Demo
> > >
> > > Chris Chabot
> > > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> > >
> > > Q&A
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or improvements?
> > >
> >
> > Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
> > unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what they
> > are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
> >
> > Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really short,
> > in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into any
> > BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions, etc.
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners
> tomorrow.
>
> -Dan
>
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Dan Peterson <dp...@google.com>.
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> > Hey Shindig folks,
> >
> > ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the list,
> > we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
> >
> > I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of
> Wednesday,
> > April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
> >
> > I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are
> planning
> > to be there.
> >
> > Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in
> person.
> >
>
> Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
> planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very unlikely as
> of now.
>
> > In terms of an abstract for
> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> > am proposing we list:
> >
> > Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
> > reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure. This
> > project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> > "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress.
> Come
> > learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how
> to
> > get involved. Q&A welcome.
> >
> > I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on
> Monday
> > or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
> >
> > I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
> >
> > Dan Peterson
> > -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> > -- Brief project history
> >
> > John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> > -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
> >
> > Cassie Doll
> > -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> > -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> > -- Demo
> >
> > Chris Chabot
> > -- Walk through the PHP server design
> >
> > Q&A
> >
> > Any suggestions or improvements?
> >
>
> Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
> unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what they
> are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
>
> Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really short,
> in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into any
> BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions, etc.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Sounds like the description above is fine. I'll mail the planners tomorrow.
-Dan
Re: Shindig BoF at ApacheCon EU: 9th of April
Posted by Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>.
El vie, 28-03-2008 a las 18:46 -0700, Dan Peterson escribió:
> Hey Shindig folks,
>
> ApacheCon EU is a few weeks away, and, as discussed before on the list,
> we're going to have a Shindig birds of a feather session.
>
> I've flipped the confirmed bit to "yes," and selected the time of Wednesday,
> April 9, 20:30 - 21:30, in Matterhorn 3 (as per
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherEu08 )
>
> I know Cassie Doll, John "Fargo" Hjelmstad, Chris Chabot and I are planning
> to be there.
>
> Is anyone else coming from shindig-dev? It would be great to meet in person.
>
Not me. I still *might* go to Amsterdam for the Apachecon-us-2008
planning meeting Saturday after ApacheCON, but it looks very unlikely as
of now.
> In terms of an abstract for http://www.eu.apachecon.com/eu2008/about/BOFs, I
> am proposing we list:
>
> Shindig is a new project in the Apache incubator that is becoming the
> reference implementation for OpenSocial and gadgets infrastructure. This
> project aims to make it easy for a new social website to become a
> "container" for OpenSocial applications, and is making rapid progress. Come
> learn about the project's infrastructure, see a demo, and find out how to
> get involved. Q&A welcome.
>
> I'd like to send in an abstract to planners-2008-eu@apachecon.com on Monday
> or Tuesday, so there is a week's notice.
>
> I'm imagining the flow would go as follows:
>
> Dan Peterson
> -- Intro to OpenSocial/gadgets/Shindig
> -- Brief project history
>
> John "Fargo" Hjelmstad
> -- Walk through the Java Gadget Server rendering process
>
> Cassie Doll
> -- Walk through the JavaScript sample container
> -- Describe how to connect backends to the OpenSocial API
> -- Demo
>
> Chris Chabot
> -- Walk through the PHP server design
>
> Q&A
>
> Any suggestions or improvements?
>
Typically BOFs are very dynamic, a short introduction and let people
unknown to the -dev list "delurk" themselves and talk about what they
are doing and what they are interested into/ willing to help.
Your plan is all right provided that the introductions are really short,
in the 5 minutes or so. Technical stuff has never really fitted into any
BOF I've been into, unless it is about discussing design decisions, etc.
Regards
Santiago
> Cheers,
> -Dan
--
Santiago Gala
http://memojo.com/~sgala/blog/