Re: Uploading Blog Post

[Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>]

Hi All, (+dev, +pmc)

I agree with what Sunando, Giles, Ivet, Andrija have said. The current CMS is not very content friendly, the old Roller based ACS project blog is quite poor (https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack<https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/>), I spent half an hour just to find how to add an image in the recent blog post! I would have preferred that the blog was part of the project website and not a separate thing. In addition to the issue with the ACS project blog, the current website cms (http://github.com/apache/cloudstack-www) can only be managed by people with git skills and not very friendly to use.

It seems Wordpress is pretty much the standard choice used by many blogs, and as long as it's secured and had tight access that is governed/managed by PMC with ASF/infra I'm +1 on migration to Wordpress. Since this is on marketing/users list it may not have reached/read by many PMCs and committers, let me cc and ask - @Wei ZHOU<ma...@gmail.com> @Wido Hollander<ma...@pcextreme.nl> @Gabriel Beims Bräscher<ma...@pcextreme.nl> @Sven Vogel<ma...@ewerk.com> @Will Stevens<ma...@cloudops.com> @Simon Weller<ma...@gmail.com> @Pierre-Luc Dion<ma...@cloud.ca> @Daan Hoogland<ma...@gmail.com> @Boris Stoyanov<ma...@shapeblue.com> and others PMC members via private list, what they think?

Thanks and regards.
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Subject: Re: Uploading Blog Post

my 2 cents... we really need to have a more "content friendly" platform for cloudstack where we can easily populate content that is current and relevant. Hosting on WordPress or Webflow really would make life easy for content managers. This will also enable us to attract more users to the community and grow it.

Best,

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:22 PM Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
[discuss]
I would be fully supportive of this - as Andrija says: we should have done this years ago.  In fact, we have had this discussion a number of times over the years. For example [1]

Every time its raised, most people seem to be +1 on having a site that can be easily maintained/ managed  with tools that are familiar with the more marketing focussed people in our community (i.e. some sort of CMS) . However, every time, the initiative has fizzled out because of the "belief" that top level project websites HAVE to be hosted on Apache infra and have to be static HTML.  We then get into long discussions about everybody's favourite  types of HTML generator tools  - most of which immediately switch off folks like Ivet - who (without putting words into their mouths) just want a wordpress/jupal/etc site that is easy to manage & update

I spoke to some of the infra guys at Apachecon NA 2019. They seemed informally open to the idea of a project hosting their website on something like wordpress.com<http://wordpress.com>. They referred me to a legal discussion that theyd had [2]. Which, in summary, says  - yes, you can use a 3rd party to host a site and it doesn’t have to be static HTML.

 AFAIK, I don’t think that ever became policy, but the key message is, as long as certain requirements are met there seems (or rather seemed at the time) to be no problem with doing this

So, the question needs to be: as long as the details can be figured, and infra/policy allows it, is there any remaining objection to rebuilding our website on something like wordpress ?

If there is no strong objection here, I'd be happy to reach out to infra to check that their thoughts from 2 years ago remain the same and what is/is not OK

I think that they'd want to see a vote from this community  - but lets see the art of the possible first.


Thoughts ?



[1] https://markmail.org/search/?q=wordpress&q=list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.cloudstack-marketing#query:wordpress%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.cloudstack-marketing+page:1+mid:gqzrihyek4jjo4df+state:results

[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d20daf9889e442bfe44e0908d303c3288e31f437101ca610f1f49eed@%3Clegal-discuss.apache.org%3E

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 25 April 2021 22:04
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Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Uploading Blog Post

+1, but..

If that would be that easily doable, we should surely migrate ages ago - there are certain limits from the ASF itself, I don't know all the details
- but it's the same story for the main web site - old, ugly, unfriendly - make's you want to avoid it... but, there you go... it's always good to try to move forward.


On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:12, Ivet Petrova <iv...@shapeblue.com>>
wrote:

> Perhaps one good idea is migrating the blog to WordPress.
> It is easy to use and operate and supports different levels of access.
> PMC members can be administrators, and there can be just Authors and
> Editors in addition.
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> Kind regards,
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> On 23 Apr 2021, at 12:57, Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
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> FYI - published on behalf of Ivet here:
> https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/meet-the-community-gabriel-b
> rascher as only committers are allowed access to publish on the Apache
> CloudStack blog (something that could be discussed and fixed in
> future).
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> Regards.
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> From: Ivet Petrova <iv...@shapeblue.com>>
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:09
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> Cc: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org> <ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>>
> Subject: Re: Uploading Blog Post
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> Hello again and Happy Monday Everyone,
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> Once again - can somebody give me some guidance on this?
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> Kind regards,
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> On 9 Apr 2021, at 12:48, Ivet Petrova <iv...@shapeblue.com><mailto:
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> Hi,
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> Can somebody help me on how a new blog posts can be uploaded on the
> CloudStack blog?
> Is there any backend which is used, or only code?
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> Thanks a lot on advance!
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