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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net> on 2003/05/01 20:27:49 UTC
Re: Mature Document Management
"Zitan Broth" <zi...@mediasculpt.net> writes:
>> what do you think is the best MATURE open source approach to
>> enterprise document management? I really need to find out if there
>> is anything credible out there for a large government enterprise to
>> use ... the documents will primarily be coming from MS Office but
>> are stored currently on a mixture of Win 2k and Unix servers
>> ... volumes run into millions of documents already and growing
Do you need all those millions of documents in the same repository, or
will they be spread across multiple repositories?
> Now I know subversion is in beta, but I haven't seen anything out
> there that is better. What do you all think, can I spout svn?
> Anyone found anything better ( I haven't ) and is there *commerical*
> support available ?
This list is probably the best place to ask for commercial support,
right now.
-Karl
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Zitan Broth <zi...@mediasculpt.net>.
.... "does" should read "doesn't" below .. man need second coffee ...
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by "Glenn A. Thompson" <gt...@cdr.net>.
>
>
>>
> Yes, this is what I want to do. Not what I am doing.
To clarify, I decided to work on the SQL backend because I believe that
BDB will not handle a 100GB DB no matter how the data is distributed. I
have 100GB and I'm not even versioning the data. It's not in
Subversion. It's currently spread across two samba servers.
SQL will of course bring other coolness along the way. And Pain:-)
gat
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by "Glenn A. Thompson" <gt...@cdr.net>.
>
>
>Can I be a pain and ask how would you need to set this up to be able to use
>SVN, i.e how much data can a svn repository safely handle (roughly cause it
>must vary) ? I do recall Greg mentioning : "we have over 100GB of data in
>two Samba file systems (un-versioned)" :-)
>
>
Yes, this is what I want to do. Not what I am doing.
gat
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Zitan Broth <zi...@mediasculpt.net>.
> Well, that depends how many documents per repository on average, and
> how big they are :-).
Can I be a pain and ask how would you need to set this up to be able to use
SVN, i.e how much data can a svn repository safely handle (roughly cause it
must vary) ? I do recall Greg mentioning : "we have over 100GB of data in
two Samba file systems (un-versioned)" :-)
> Some people are using Subversion on some mighty big datasets, though;
> you might want to check out:
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/svn-repositories.html
Thanks *3
Z.
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
"Zitan Broth" <zi...@mediasculpt.net> writes:
> Btw, Will SVN handle that load if they were to use multiple repositories?
Well, that depends how many documents per repository on average, and
how big they are :-).
Some people are using Subversion on some mighty big datasets, though;
you might want to check out:
http://subversion.tigris.org/svn-repositories.html
-K
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Zitan Broth <zi...@mediasculpt.net>.
> Careful with the M$-bashing -- there are plenty of Subversion
> developers & users either at Microsoft or formerly at Microsoft :-).
Sorry that wasn't mean as M$ bashing I was just referring to people new to
the idea of open source. I do realise there is at least one *esteemed*
member among your ranks who used to work for M$. I used to work corporate
myself and now we just contract to them ;-)
> Well, if you can get someone to offer you commercial support, then you
> can say commercial support is offered. This list is a good place to
> find such a person. (I can't do it, already have a job, thanks.)
Lol ... nicely put and understood
> You might want to make a separate post whose subject is something like
> "Commercial SVN support sought".
At this stage I'll say that commercial support *may* be available and make a
new post if something comes of it. I don't want to waste your guys time ...
Btw, Will SVN handle that load if they were to use multiple repositories?
> > Hope that is clear, I've had very little sleep last night ... got a
newborn ;-)
> Aaaahhh, understand. Enjoy :-).
Thanks, we're trying ;-)
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
"Zitan Broth" <zi...@mediasculpt.net> writes:
> Firstly my apologies for the lame corporate question, this isn't my style
> but you know those real conservative types who haved used M$ all their life.
Careful with the M$-bashing -- there are plenty of Subversion
developers & users either at Microsoft or formerly at Microsoft :-).
> Also this is entirely what if, because I've already told all my friends that
> SVN is the best thing since marmite (little kiwi joke ;-)) and he obviously
> does think SVN is mature. Hence the situation. So anyway sometime these
> anal corporate types want somebody to *guarantee* that a product is going to
> work beyond the people who set the system up, eg the actual developers
> (being you'all). So the question is a general one, rather than a specific
> one as yet. So given a situation where somebody wanted to pay you guys for
> commercial support, would you accept? Can I spout as one of my reasons for
> going with SVN is that "commerical support" is offered?
Well, if you can get someone to offer you commercial support, then you
can say commercial support is offered. This list is a good place to
find such a person. (I can't do it, already have a job, thanks.)
You might want to make a separate post whose subject is something like
"Commercial SVN support sought".
> Hope that is clear, I've had very little sleep last night ... got a newborn
> ;-)
Aaaahhh, understand. Enjoy :-).
-Karl
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Re: Mature Document Management
Posted by Zitan Broth <zi...@mediasculpt.net>.
Hi Karl,
Thanks for your response :-)
> "Zitan Broth" <zi...@mediasculpt.net> writes:
> >> what do you think is the best MATURE open source approach to
> >> enterprise document management? I really need to find out if there
> >> is anything credible out there for a large government enterprise to
> >> use ... the documents will primarily be coming from MS Office but
> >> are stored currently on a mixture of Win 2k and Unix servers
> >> ... volumes run into millions of documents already and growing
>
> Do you need all those millions of documents in the same repository, or
> will they be spread across multiple repositories?
I can't see any reason that they would have any problem with multiple
respositories :-)
> > Now I know subversion is in beta, but I haven't seen anything out
> > there that is better. What do you all think, can I spout svn?
> > Anyone found anything better ( I haven't ) and is there *commerical*
> > support available ?
>
> This list is probably the best place to ask for commercial support, right
now.
Firstly my apologies for the lame corporate question, this isn't my style
but you know those real conservative types who haved used M$ all their life.
Also this is entirely what if, because I've already told all my friends that
SVN is the best thing since marmite (little kiwi joke ;-)) and he obviously
does think SVN is mature. Hence the situation. So anyway sometime these
anal corporate types want somebody to *guarantee* that a product is going to
work beyond the people who set the system up, eg the actual developers
(being you'all). So the question is a general one, rather than a specific
one as yet. So given a situation where somebody wanted to pay you guys for
commercial support, would you accept? Can I spout as one of my reasons for
going with SVN is that "commerical support" is offered?
Hope that is clear, I've had very little sleep last night ... got a newborn
;-)
Awesome and thanks,
Z.
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