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Posted to server-dev@james.apache.org by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org> on 2002/10/24 19:42:56 UTC
RE: Straw poll : FW: Projects to nudge into top-level ( was Re:Concern about the futureof Apache. )
As I understand it there is the potential for Jakarta projects to apply to "jump-ship" now, irrespective of the outcome of the reorg.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:sergek@lokitech.com]
> Sent: 24 October 2002 18:07
> To: James Developers List
> Subject: Re: Straw poll : FW: Projects to nudge into top-level ( was
> Re:Concern about the futureof Apache. )
>
>
> I think it could help James to have it promoted, but am not sure about
> the impact of making that many projects higher level. The value of that
> top status is diminished if you allow too many. As an alternative, you
> could split jakarta into the three categories specified on the home page
> (libraries/tools/API, frameworks/engines, and server applications). To
> me it depends on the priorities driving the reorg... whether it's to
> keep jakarta for more fledging code, to improve communication between
> projects, to improve visibility for more mature code, or what have you.
>
> Anyway, I'm on the mailing list (well, the new community@ list), and if
> there is a move to push some jakarta projects to top level, I'd like to
> see James moved as well. I'm just not sure yet if that exact reorg is
> the best.
>
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> Serge Knystautas
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> Danny Angus wrote:
> > I don't know how many, if any, commiters are also on the reorg@
> list, but I thought I'd FW this mail in case you're not.
> >
> > To sumarise theres a feeling abroad that Apache should be less
> vertical and more horizontal in its organisation, that Jakarta is
> unbalancing things by being so big, and that "The Apache Way" is
> being diluted as a result (don't flame me I'm just passing it on ;).
> >
> > To address this there has been a proposal that sub-projects can
> be elevated to full "xxxx.apache.org" project status, and as you
> can see from the appended message James has been suggested as a candidate.
> >
> > This would involve James having its own PMC, and reporting to
> the board, and would benefit from higher percieved "status".
> > Alternatively there is also a move afoot to allow
> self-categorisation of projects, removing the benefit of "status"
> from the action of elevation to full project.
> >
> > Now.. I don't know how long the internal machinations of reorg,
> or the Board will take, and I would be a fool if I second guessed
> the outcome, but out of curiosity are we generally in favour or
> opposed to being a top level project with our own elected PMC?
> >
> > (I'll save my own opinion 'till I hear some others)
> > d.
>
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