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spam scoring -2.6

Hi all,

I'm getting creamed with these spams but they are getting through due to;

 
-2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
	[score: 0.0005]

Why is this happening?











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Re: spam scoring -2.6

Posted by ram <ra...@netcore.co.in>.
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 09:41 -0400, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm getting creamed with these spams but they are getting through due to;
> 
>  
> -2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> 	[score: 0.0005]
> 
> Why is this happening?
> 

I think that is more than obvious The bayes DB has gone crazy. This
happens to me too. 

I would suggest nuke your DB and run sa-learn again 

You could try expiring tokens regulary 


Thanks
Ram




RE: spam scoring -2.6

Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

> 	-2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> 	1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT        Missing Subject: header
> 	2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE          Message appears to have no textual parts and no
> 	Subject: text
> 	1.0 TVD_PDF_FINGER01       Mail matches standard pdf spam fingerprint

Yeah. PDF spams.

You'll have to train some PDF spams into bayes for it to work against 
them. Most of the headers on them (the only content Bayes has to work 
with given the lack of a body or subject) do look legit.

Basically, training on them lets bayes learn about things like the
suspicius user-agent header and the .pdf attachment MIME header bits.

You should only need to do a handful of the smaller ones. 

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RE: spam scoring -2.6

Posted by Jean-Paul Natola <jn...@familycareintl.org>.


Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm getting creamed with these spams but they are getting
> through due to;
> 
> 
> -2.6 BAYES_00  BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> 	[score: 0.0005]
> 
> Why is this happening?

This only says that Bayes doesn't think the email looks like spam so points
are subtracted.
What other information can you give about the spam that you receive? (Like
the full email headers?)


Content analysis details:   (4.3 points, 5.0 required)
	pts rule name              description
	---- ----------------------
--------------------------------------------------
	-2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to
1%
	[score: 0.0005]
	0.2 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE     RBL: Envelope sender in
abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
	1.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in
bl.spamcop.net
	[Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?208.180.135.80>]
	1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT        Missing Subject: header
	2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE          Message appears to have no textual parts
and no
	Subject: text
	1.0 TVD_PDF_FINGER01       Mail matches standard pdf spam fingerprint
Return-Path: ccq@zonnet.nl
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2007 13:36:07.0980 (UTC)
FILETIME=[98AB46C0:01C7C940]

--------------000102010208070406000602
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--------------000102010208070406000602
Content-Type: application/pdf;
 name="log.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename="log.pdf"


--------------000102010208070406000602--

RE: spam scoring -2.6

Posted by Rob Sterenborg <R....@netsourcing.nl>.
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm getting creamed with these spams but they are getting
> through due to;
> 
> 
> -2.6 BAYES_00  BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> 	[score: 0.0005]
> 
> Why is this happening?

This only says that Bayes doesn't think the email looks like spam so points are subtracted.
What other information can you give about the spam that you receive? (Like the full email headers?)


Grts,
Rob

Re: spam scoring -2.6

Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

> I'm getting creamed with these spams but they are getting through
> due to;
>  
> -2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> 	[score: 0.0005]
> 
> Why is this happening?

Well, most likely two causes: (1) your bayes is mistrained, or (2) the 
spams contain sufficient text that looks like your legitimate message 
traffic.

I'll repost the questions I posted here a bit ago in response to a 
similar question:

(0) Does the text in the low-scoring spam, apart from the commercial
pitch, look like legitimate message traffic that you would expect at
your site? (e.g. if you're in the medical profession, it contains a
lot of text about medical topics.)

(1) How often does this happen?

(2) How big is your bayes database? (use "sa-learn --dump magic")

(3) How are you training your bayes database? Autolearn? Or manual?

(4) If manual, do you keep your corpus around after you've trained it?

(5) If manual, do you let nontechnical users train it without review?

Finally, have you installed any of the SARE rules from
www.rulesemporium.com? While not "fixing" a low bayes score, they may
counteract it when bayes gets fooled.

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