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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by John Sisson <jr...@gmail.com> on 2005/12/02 00:54:32 UTC
Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
A few people have suggested we change the default startup format to one
that doesn't use line feeds to update the progress of a configuration
that is being loaded.
I like the existing startup format as it looks fancy and doesn't produce
as many lines of output than the longer format (see example below), but
it isn't very usable when error messages are issued as the display of
the error can end up being garbled due to the thread that updates the
configuration status line (using line feeds) every 500ms. This could
become a support issue.
Now is the time to decide, as it will be harder to change our minds
later after 1.0.
I am proposing that the existing default progress output be used when
the -s or --short option is specified. This will impact existing
documentation.
Here is an example of the output in the proposed long format:
Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.4.2_08)...
Started configuration 1/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/RMINaming
Started configuration 2/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer
Started configuration 3/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Jetty
Started configuration 4/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Tomcat
Started configuration 5/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Server
Started configuration 6/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Security
Started configuration 7/15 10s org/apache/geronimo/ActiveMQServer
Started configuration 8/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS
Started configuration 9/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemDatabase
Started configuration 10/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Directory
Started configuration 11/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/JettyRuntimeDeployer
Started configuration 12/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/TomcatRuntimeDeployer
Started configuration 13/15 1s
org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
Started configuration 14/15 1s org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
Started configuration 15/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/HotDeployer
Startup completed in 21 seconds
Listening on Ports:
1099 0.0.0.0 RMI Naming
1527 0.0.0.0 Derby Connector
4201 0.0.0.0 ActiveIO Connector EJB
4242 0.0.0.0 Remote Login Listener
8019 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector AJP
8080 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTP
8090 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTP
8443 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTPS
8453 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTPS
61616 0.0.0.0 ActiveMQ Message Broker Connector
Started Application Modules:
EAR: org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
WAR: org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
Web Applications:
http://JSLAP:8080/
http://JSLAP:8080/console
http://JSLAP:8080/console-standard
Geronimo Application Server started
John
Re: Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
+1 to Aaron's plan
-dain
On Dec 1, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> I prefer the progress bar.
>
> I think the alternative above would be a great option for when you're
> launching the server into the background, and should be used by any
> scripts we produce if we detect that the user wants to launch into the
> background or redirect output to a file.
>
> It would also be possible to make the default display format a
> configurable setting for each user (you know, with a properties file
> in the home dir or something), so David can configure his to always
> show that way. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
> On 12/1/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I like this much better
>>
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
>>
>>> A few people have suggested we change the default startup format to
>>> one that doesn't use line feeds to update the progress of a
>>> configuration that is being loaded.
>>>
>>> I like the existing startup format as it looks fancy and doesn't
>>> produce as many lines of output than the longer format (see example
>>> below), but it isn't very usable when error messages are issued
>>> as the
>>> display of the error can end up being garbled due to the thread that
>>> updates the configuration status line (using line feeds) every
>>> 500ms.
>>> This could become a support issue.
>>>
>>> Now is the time to decide, as it will be harder to change our minds
>>> later after 1.0.
>>>
>>> I am proposing that the existing default progress output be used
>>> when
>>> the -s or --short option is specified. This will impact existing
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Here is an example of the output in the proposed long format:
>>>
>>> Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.4.2_08)...
>>> Started configuration 1/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/RMINaming
>>> Started configuration 2/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 3/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 4/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Tomcat
>>> Started configuration 5/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Server
>>> Started configuration 6/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Security
>>> Started configuration 7/15 10s org/apache/geronimo/ActiveMQServer
>>> Started configuration 8/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS
>>> Started configuration 9/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemDatabase
>>> Started configuration 10/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Directory
>>> Started configuration 11/15 0s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/JettyRuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 12/15 0s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/TomcatRuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 13/15 1s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 14/15 1s org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 15/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/HotDeployer
>>> Startup completed in 21 seconds
>>> Listening on Ports:
>>> 1099 0.0.0.0 RMI Naming
>>> 1527 0.0.0.0 Derby Connector
>>> 4201 0.0.0.0 ActiveIO Connector EJB
>>> 4242 0.0.0.0 Remote Login Listener
>>> 8019 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector AJP
>>> 8080 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTP
>>> 8090 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTP
>>> 8443 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTPS
>>> 8453 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTPS
>>> 61616 0.0.0.0 ActiveMQ Message Broker Connector
>>>
>>> Started Application Modules:
>>> EAR: org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
>>> WAR: org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
>>>
>>> Web Applications:
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/console
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/console-standard
>>>
>>> Geronimo Application Server started
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 12/1/05, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> I think the alternative above would be a great option for when you're
> launching the server into the background, and should be used by any
> scripts we produce if we detect that the user wants to launch into the
> background or redirect output to a file.
>
> It would also be possible to make the default display format a
> configurable setting for each user (you know, with a properties file
> in the home dir or something), so David can configure his to always
> show that way. :)
+1 to make the progress bar display configurable.
Bruce
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Re: Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
Posted by Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>.
I prefer the progress bar as well as the default, however in the server
console in WTP, the progress bar doesn't display correctly (displays line by
line), so I'm launching the server with "-v". So having this available in
the tools as the default format would be nice.
On 12/1/05 7:18 PM, "Aaron Mulder" <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> I prefer the progress bar.
>
> I think the alternative above would be a great option for when you're
> launching the server into the background, and should be used by any
> scripts we produce if we detect that the user wants to launch into the
> background or redirect output to a file.
>
> It would also be possible to make the default display format a
> configurable setting for each user (you know, with a properties file
> in the home dir or something), so David can configure his to always
> show that way. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
> On 12/1/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I like this much better
>>
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
>>
>>> A few people have suggested we change the default startup format to
>>> one that doesn't use line feeds to update the progress of a
>>> configuration that is being loaded.
>>>
>>> I like the existing startup format as it looks fancy and doesn't
>>> produce as many lines of output than the longer format (see example
>>> below), but it isn't very usable when error messages are issued as the
>>> display of the error can end up being garbled due to the thread that
>>> updates the configuration status line (using line feeds) every 500ms.
>>> This could become a support issue.
>>>
>>> Now is the time to decide, as it will be harder to change our minds
>>> later after 1.0.
>>>
>>> I am proposing that the existing default progress output be used when
>>> the -s or --short option is specified. This will impact existing
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Here is an example of the output in the proposed long format:
>>>
>>> Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.4.2_08)...
>>> Started configuration 1/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/RMINaming
>>> Started configuration 2/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 3/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 4/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Tomcat
>>> Started configuration 5/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Server
>>> Started configuration 6/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Security
>>> Started configuration 7/15 10s org/apache/geronimo/ActiveMQServer
>>> Started configuration 8/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS
>>> Started configuration 9/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemDatabase
>>> Started configuration 10/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Directory
>>> Started configuration 11/15 0s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/JettyRuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 12/15 0s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/TomcatRuntimeDeployer
>>> Started configuration 13/15 1s
>>> org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 14/15 1s org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
>>> Started configuration 15/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/HotDeployer
>>> Startup completed in 21 seconds
>>> Listening on Ports:
>>> 1099 0.0.0.0 RMI Naming
>>> 1527 0.0.0.0 Derby Connector
>>> 4201 0.0.0.0 ActiveIO Connector EJB
>>> 4242 0.0.0.0 Remote Login Listener
>>> 8019 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector AJP
>>> 8080 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTP
>>> 8090 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTP
>>> 8443 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTPS
>>> 8453 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTPS
>>> 61616 0.0.0.0 ActiveMQ Message Broker Connector
>>>
>>> Started Application Modules:
>>> EAR: org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
>>> WAR: org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
>>>
>>> Web Applications:
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/console
>>> http://JSLAP:8080/console-standard
>>>
>>> Geronimo Application Server started
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
I prefer the progress bar.
I think the alternative above would be a great option for when you're
launching the server into the background, and should be used by any
scripts we produce if we detect that the user wants to launch into the
background or redirect output to a file.
It would also be possible to make the default display format a
configurable setting for each user (you know, with a properties file
in the home dir or something), so David can configure his to always
show that way. :)
Thanks,
Aaron
On 12/1/05, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I like this much better
>
> david jencks
>
> On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
>
> > A few people have suggested we change the default startup format to
> > one that doesn't use line feeds to update the progress of a
> > configuration that is being loaded.
> >
> > I like the existing startup format as it looks fancy and doesn't
> > produce as many lines of output than the longer format (see example
> > below), but it isn't very usable when error messages are issued as the
> > display of the error can end up being garbled due to the thread that
> > updates the configuration status line (using line feeds) every 500ms.
> > This could become a support issue.
> >
> > Now is the time to decide, as it will be harder to change our minds
> > later after 1.0.
> >
> > I am proposing that the existing default progress output be used when
> > the -s or --short option is specified. This will impact existing
> > documentation.
> >
> > Here is an example of the output in the proposed long format:
> >
> > Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.4.2_08)...
> > Started configuration 1/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/RMINaming
> > Started configuration 2/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer
> > Started configuration 3/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Jetty
> > Started configuration 4/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Tomcat
> > Started configuration 5/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Server
> > Started configuration 6/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Security
> > Started configuration 7/15 10s org/apache/geronimo/ActiveMQServer
> > Started configuration 8/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS
> > Started configuration 9/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemDatabase
> > Started configuration 10/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Directory
> > Started configuration 11/15 0s
> > org/apache/geronimo/JettyRuntimeDeployer
> > Started configuration 12/15 0s
> > org/apache/geronimo/TomcatRuntimeDeployer
> > Started configuration 13/15 1s
> > org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
> > Started configuration 14/15 1s org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
> > Started configuration 15/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/HotDeployer
> > Startup completed in 21 seconds
> > Listening on Ports:
> > 1099 0.0.0.0 RMI Naming
> > 1527 0.0.0.0 Derby Connector
> > 4201 0.0.0.0 ActiveIO Connector EJB
> > 4242 0.0.0.0 Remote Login Listener
> > 8019 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector AJP
> > 8080 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTP
> > 8090 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTP
> > 8443 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTPS
> > 8453 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTPS
> > 61616 0.0.0.0 ActiveMQ Message Broker Connector
> >
> > Started Application Modules:
> > EAR: org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
> > WAR: org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
> >
> > Web Applications:
> > http://JSLAP:8080/
> > http://JSLAP:8080/console
> > http://JSLAP:8080/console-standard
> >
> > Geronimo Application Server started
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
Re: Should we change the default startup progress format for 1.0?
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I like this much better
david jencks
On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
> A few people have suggested we change the default startup format to
> one that doesn't use line feeds to update the progress of a
> configuration that is being loaded.
>
> I like the existing startup format as it looks fancy and doesn't
> produce as many lines of output than the longer format (see example
> below), but it isn't very usable when error messages are issued as the
> display of the error can end up being garbled due to the thread that
> updates the configuration status line (using line feeds) every 500ms.
> This could become a support issue.
>
> Now is the time to decide, as it will be harder to change our minds
> later after 1.0.
>
> I am proposing that the existing default progress output be used when
> the -s or --short option is specified. This will impact existing
> documentation.
>
> Here is an example of the output in the proposed long format:
>
> Booting Geronimo Kernel (in Java 1.4.2_08)...
> Started configuration 1/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/RMINaming
> Started configuration 2/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer
> Started configuration 3/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Jetty
> Started configuration 4/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Tomcat
> Started configuration 5/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Server
> Started configuration 6/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/Security
> Started configuration 7/15 10s org/apache/geronimo/ActiveMQServer
> Started configuration 8/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS
> Started configuration 9/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/SystemDatabase
> Started configuration 10/15 2s org/apache/geronimo/Directory
> Started configuration 11/15 0s
> org/apache/geronimo/JettyRuntimeDeployer
> Started configuration 12/15 0s
> org/apache/geronimo/TomcatRuntimeDeployer
> Started configuration 13/15 1s
> org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
> Started configuration 14/15 1s org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
> Started configuration 15/15 0s org/apache/geronimo/HotDeployer
> Startup completed in 21 seconds
> Listening on Ports:
> 1099 0.0.0.0 RMI Naming
> 1527 0.0.0.0 Derby Connector
> 4201 0.0.0.0 ActiveIO Connector EJB
> 4242 0.0.0.0 Remote Login Listener
> 8019 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector AJP
> 8080 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTP
> 8090 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTP
> 8443 0.0.0.0 Jetty Connector HTTPS
> 8453 0.0.0.0 Tomcat Connector HTTPS
> 61616 0.0.0.0 ActiveMQ Message Broker Connector
>
> Started Application Modules:
> EAR: org/apache/geronimo/Console/Jetty
> WAR: org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Jetty
>
> Web Applications:
> http://JSLAP:8080/
> http://JSLAP:8080/console
> http://JSLAP:8080/console-standard
>
> Geronimo Application Server started
>
> John
>