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Posted to dev@ibatis.apache.org by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> on 2007/07/08 07:54:55 UTC
iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Hi everyone,
I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
future versions of iBATIS.
Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
product you want.
It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
the faster you'll get to see the results.
http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
to validate against the list etc.
Best regards,
Clinton
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Saeed Iqbal <sa...@gmail.com>.
done
On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, that's great Gwyn. I actually like the single page for speed (I
don't like clicking around all over the place). The TOC fixes the
navigation problem.
We could break it up though if others feel the TOC is not enough.
Clinton
On 7/12/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 12, 2007, 6:51:16 AM, Zoran <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
>
> > With regards to the Wiki, can I suggest that the v3 page be broken out into
> > so that the main is only a summary and then link out to separate pages for
> > the detail of each suggested feature. I found the current structure quite
> > large and overwhelming. It was difficult to easily digest and the feedback
> > at the bottom is unmanageable difficult to follow.
>
> I've added a "Table of contents" panel that might help?
>
> /Gwyn
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
On Thursday, July 12, 2007, 6:51:16 AM, Zoran <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
> With regards to the Wiki, can I suggest that the v3 page be broken out into
> so that the main is only a summary and then link out to separate pages for
> the detail of each suggested feature. I found the current structure quite
> large and overwhelming. It was difficult to easily digest and the feedback
> at the bottom is unmanageable difficult to follow.
I've added a "Table of contents" panel that might help?
/Gwyn
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com>.
Great news on the metadata front. We're just starting on a DB reporting tool
and metadata support will make my life so much easier. Is this available via
subversion or is it yet to be committed?
With regards to the Wiki, can I suggest that the v3 page be broken out into
so that the main is only a summary and then link out to separate pages for
the detail of each suggested feature. I found the current structure quite
large and overwhelming. It was difficult to easily digest and the feedback
at the bottom is unmanageable difficult to follow.
I suggest it because I think iBatis has reached a level of maturity and use
that canvassing a broad range of opinions on planned/suggested features will
help provide direction.
Z.
> You can put your suggestions on the wiki. Feel free to be detailed about it.
>
> Interestingly, if I understand what you're asking for correctly, I've
> already coded the JDBC metadata part in a spike I've done... ;-)
>
> Clinton
>
> On 7/10/07, Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
>> Putting aside the too many - too little options debate far a minute. Can
>> somebody tell me if there is somewhere where we can vote for features for
>> v3?
>>
>> Because I'd like to throw in my 10¢ and vote for JDBC metadata support and
>> expression language support within the XML config files.
>>
>> Z.
>>
>>
>>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
You can put your suggestions on the wiki. Feel free to be detailed about it.
Interestingly, if I understand what you're asking for correctly, I've
already coded the JDBC metadata part in a spike I've done... ;-)
Clinton
On 7/10/07, Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
> Putting aside the too many - too little options debate far a minute. Can
> somebody tell me if there is somewhere where we can vote for features for
> v3?
>
> Because I'd like to throw in my 10¢ and vote for JDBC metadata support and
> expression language support within the XML config files.
>
> Z.
>
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com>.
Point taken. We apologize if this causes you distress. But, we have attained
the data that we wanted. We all feel the need for all the features we can
get and we will certainly not leave out key features. I'm sure your concerns
will be addressed as we dig into the next generation iBATIS.
Thanks,
Brandon Goodin
On 7/11/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 5:32:46 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Exactly. The random selection is more meaningful than a multiple
> selection.
>
> > But I really have a hard time believing that there's NO primary for
> > each of those categories.
>
> For most of them, yes, but for some, e.g.
>
> 6) a,d
> 8) b,d,e
> 12) e,f
>
> then I can't really differentiate (and have no idea which I actually went
> for!)
>
> /Gwyn
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
On Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 5:32:46 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly. The random selection is more meaningful than a multiple selection.
> But I really have a hard time believing that there's NO primary for
> each of those categories.
For most of them, yes, but for some, e.g.
6) a,d
8) b,d,e
12) e,f
then I can't really differentiate (and have no idea which I actually went for!)
/Gwyn
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Zoran Avtarovski <zo...@sparecreative.com>.
Putting aside the too many - too little options debate far a minute. Can
somebody tell me if there is somewhere where we can vote for features for
v3?
Because I'd like to throw in my 10¢ and vote for JDBC metadata support and
expression language support within the XML config files.
Z.
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Exactly. The random selection is more meaningful than a multiple selection.
But I really have a hard time believing that there's NO primary for
each of those categories.
For example: I can easily check every box on that survey (except
maybe the web frameworks and IDE). But I know I mostly use iBATIS
with Java, I mostly use SQL Server and I mostly use IntelliJ IDEA.
I'll keep the rest of the more opinion based answers to myself, but
although I use and value almost everything on that list, I can select
which are the most important to me -- even if only marginally.
Clinton
On 7/10/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm - well, as the one doing the choosing, I can assure you that in
> some instances, what you actually got was the result of
> 'rand([b,c,d])', which you'll have no option but to collate that as a
> vote for (e.g.) 'b', rather than a 1/3rd vote for b, c & d...
>
> While I understand what you are trying for, from this side of the
> survey, it /seems/ that it'll give you flawed results! Hopefully
> there'll be enough responses to mean that it's not so, though.
>
> /Gwyn
>
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:53:02 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No information is lost. It's completely dependent upon what
> > information we're looking for. And what we're looking for is the MOST
> > important things to people, not the top three, or even the top two.
> > Just one and only one.
>
> > I want to force you to choose.
>
> > Worry not, nothing will be left out.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
>
> > On 7/9/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hmm, not sure I really agree with you there - having done the survey,
> >> there were a number of questions where having to choose just 1 item
> >> felt as misleading as choosing all would have been.
> >>
> >> The correct answers would have been a few of the items. You may
> >> believe that one always stands out, but certainly with my answers,
> >> there are answers where you will see an answer as 'b', for example,
> >> but in reality, it could have been 'b','c' or 'd' but not 'a' or 'e'.
> >> There's information being lost there!
>
>
>
Re: DB Connection
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Both DBCP and SimpleDataSource -- and any other DataSource impl worth
its salt support "ping queries" or "connection validators". So yes,
absolutely.
Which datasource are you using?
Clinton
On 7/10/07, Severin Ecker <se...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> i was wondering whether it's possible to check the connection to the
> database (if it's still valid) and, if it's been closed if i can try to
> reinitialize it without the whole ibatis configuration file reading and
> setup?
>
> thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> severin
>
>
DB Connection
Posted by Severin Ecker <se...@gmx.at>.
Hi everyone,
i was wondering whether it's possible to check the connection to the
database (if it's still valid) and, if it's been closed if i can try to
reinitialize it without the whole ibatis configuration file reading and
setup?
thanks in advance!
cheers,
severin
Re: implicit parameter map and Integer
Posted by Jeff Butler <je...@gmail.com>.
You need to specify the JDBC type in the implicit parameter map like this:
insert into foo (bar) values(#bar:INTEGER#)
See the section entitled "Inline Parameter Map Syntax" in the developer's
guide.
Jeff Butler
On 7/11/07, Severin Ecker <se...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> maybe i'm just being stupid, but do i have to make some special
> arrangements so that setting 'null' into a column of type INTEGER works
> (the mapped java type is java.lang.Integer). i always get an exception
> because of an unknown jdbcType (the debugger tells me that the jdbcType
> for it is 0...)
>
> but when i use an explicit parameterMap stating both java and jdbc type
> it works.
>
> can i avoid the need for a parameterMap or do i have to do it that way?
>
> thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> severin
>
>
implicit parameter map and Integer
Posted by Severin Ecker <se...@gmx.at>.
hi,
maybe i'm just being stupid, but do i have to make some special
arrangements so that setting 'null' into a column of type INTEGER works
(the mapped java type is java.lang.Integer). i always get an exception
because of an unknown jdbcType (the debugger tells me that the jdbcType
for it is 0...)
but when i use an explicit parameterMap stating both java and jdbc type
it works.
can i avoid the need for a parameterMap or do i have to do it that way?
thanks in advance!
cheers,
severin
Re: Caching frameworks (was Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes))
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
On Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 5:38:22 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> iBATIS 3.0 will change the approach we take to plugins. We'll
> probably host plugins somewhere else and open up the access to the
> code more than the core.
We did that with the Wicket-stuff[*] companion project, which seems to
be working fine. Having it as a separate SF project means that it
doesn't restrict it to using only ASF-compatible libraries, too.
/Gwyn
[*] http://sourceforge.net/projects/wicket-stuff/
or http://wicketstuff.org/confluence/display/STUFFWEB/Home
Re: Caching frameworks (was Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes))
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
It's pluggable anyway, so we don't need to choose! :-)
iBATIS 3.0 will change the approach we take to plugins. We'll
probably host plugins somewhere else and open up the access to the
code more than the core.
Clinton
On 7/10/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd rather like to see if there's anything comparing EHCache with JCS,
> as http://jakarta.apache.org/jcs/JCSvsEHCache.html makes some fairly
> significant claims about JCS being better.
>
> /Gwyn
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 3:57:31 AM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The cache model is one part of the architecture that is already
> > pluggable. You could write a plugin today to use it.
>
> > I do agree. I know the developer of EHCache (smart guy) and I believe
> > it's under an Apache compatible license too.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
>
> > On 7/9/07, Jiming Liu <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I filled the survery, but forgot fill a suggestion.
> >>
> >> What do you guys think using EHCache take place of OSCache in next version?
> >> I think EHCache is more clear and powerful than OSCache and some benchmarks
> >> say EHCache is much faster. BTW, Spring use EHCache by default.
>
>
>
Caching frameworks (was Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes))
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
I'd rather like to see if there's anything comparing EHCache with JCS,
as http://jakarta.apache.org/jcs/JCSvsEHCache.html makes some fairly
significant claims about JCS being better.
/Gwyn
On Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 3:57:31 AM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The cache model is one part of the architecture that is already
> pluggable. You could write a plugin today to use it.
> I do agree. I know the developer of EHCache (smart guy) and I believe
> it's under an Apache compatible license too.
> Cheers,
> Clinton
> On 7/9/07, Jiming Liu <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I filled the survery, but forgot fill a suggestion.
>>
>> What do you guys think using EHCache take place of OSCache in next version?
>> I think EHCache is more clear and powerful than OSCache and some benchmarks
>> say EHCache is much faster. BTW, Spring use EHCache by default.
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
The cache model is one part of the architecture that is already
pluggable. You could write a plugin today to use it.
I do agree. I know the developer of EHCache (smart guy) and I believe
it's under an Apache compatible license too.
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/9/07, Jiming Liu <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I filled the survery, but forgot fill a suggestion.
>
> What do you guys think using EHCache take place of OSCache in next version?
> I think EHCache is more clear and powerful than OSCache and some benchmarks
> say EHCache is much faster. BTW, Spring use EHCache by default.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jiming
>
>
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Jiming Liu <ji...@gmail.com>.
I filled the survery, but forgot fill a suggestion.
What do you guys think using EHCache take place of OSCache in next version?
I think EHCache is more clear and powerful than OSCache and some benchmarks
say EHCache is much faster. BTW, Spring use EHCache by default.
Best regards,
Jiming
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Rusty Wright <ru...@berkeley.edu>.
Clinton Begin wrote:
> ...
> Worry not ...
Spoilsport!
--
Rusty Wright
UC Berkeley
IS&T Web Applications
510-643-9097 office
925-212-3774 cell
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
Hmm - well, as the one doing the choosing, I can assure you that in
some instances, what you actually got was the result of
'rand([b,c,d])', which you'll have no option but to collate that as a
vote for (e.g.) 'b', rather than a 1/3rd vote for b, c & d...
While I understand what you are trying for, from this side of the
survey, it /seems/ that it'll give you flawed results! Hopefully
there'll be enough responses to mean that it's not so, though.
/Gwyn
On Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:53:02 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No information is lost. It's completely dependent upon what
> information we're looking for. And what we're looking for is the MOST
> important things to people, not the top three, or even the top two.
> Just one and only one.
> I want to force you to choose.
> Worry not, nothing will be left out.
> Cheers,
> Clinton
> On 7/9/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm, not sure I really agree with you there - having done the survey,
>> there were a number of questions where having to choose just 1 item
>> felt as misleading as choosing all would have been.
>>
>> The correct answers would have been a few of the items. You may
>> believe that one always stands out, but certainly with my answers,
>> there are answers where you will see an answer as 'b', for example,
>> but in reality, it could have been 'b','c' or 'd' but not 'a' or 'e'.
>> There's information being lost there!
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
No information is lost. It's completely dependent upon what
information we're looking for. And what we're looking for is the MOST
important things to people, not the top three, or even the top two.
Just one and only one.
I want to force you to choose.
Worry not, nothing will be left out.
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/9/07, Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, not sure I really agree with you there - having done the survey,
> there were a number of questions where having to choose just 1 item
> felt as misleading as choosing all would have been.
>
> The correct answers would have been a few of the items. You may
> believe that one always stands out, but certainly with my answers,
> there are answers where you will see an answer as 'b', for example,
> but in reality, it could have been 'b','c' or 'd' but not 'a' or 'e'.
> There's information being lost there!
>
> /Gwyn
>
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2007, 2:42:38 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
> > software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
> > everyone selects everything. :-)
>
> > So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
> > pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
> > "most important" one....
>
> > Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
> > doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
> > as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
> > than choosing multiples).
>
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
>
>
> > On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> >> future versions of iBATIS.
> >>
> >> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> >> product you want.
> >>
> >> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> >> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> >> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> >> the faster you'll get to see the results.
> >>
> >> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
> >>
> >> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> >> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> >> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> >> to validate against the list etc.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Clinton
> >>
>
>
>
> /Gwyn
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Gwyn Evans <gw...@gmail.com>.
Hmm, not sure I really agree with you there - having done the survey,
there were a number of questions where having to choose just 1 item
felt as misleading as choosing all would have been.
The correct answers would have been a few of the items. You may
believe that one always stands out, but certainly with my answers,
there are answers where you will see an answer as 'b', for example,
but in reality, it could have been 'b','c' or 'd' but not 'a' or 'e'.
There's information being lost there!
/Gwyn
On Monday, July 9, 2007, 2:42:38 PM, Clinton <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
> software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
> everyone selects everything. :-)
> So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
> pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
> "most important" one....
> Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
> doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
> as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
> than choosing multiples).
> Cheers,
> Clinton
> On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
>> future versions of iBATIS.
>>
>> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
>> product you want.
>>
>> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
>> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
>> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
>> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>>
>> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>>
>> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
>> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
>> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
>> to validate against the list etc.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Clinton
>>
/Gwyn
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Another common question: Why are the last few questions so Java centric?
Well....for web frameworks...you're looking at ASP.NET. Having been a
.NET dev for about 2 years, I can't even name another one. I should
have added WinForms though, because a lot of people are using web
services fronted by rich clients. My apologies. However, the
persistence architecture likely wouldn't change much whether it was
web services fronted by WinForms or ASP.NET. Comments welcome.
For persistence frameworks I should have added LINQ to SQL, LINQ to
Entities and plain old ADO.NET. My apologies. We'll do a quick
followup survey for that. However Hibernate is available for .NET, so
if that is your primary alternative, please choose that one.
For IDEs...well, let's be honest. The survey would come out about 99%
in favor of VS.NET. ;-)
For DAO...I can't name another abstraction layer for .NET...comments welcome.
Sorry for the confusion and Java centric questions. Like I say, any
ambiguous answers will be followed up by another survey (probably just
a few questions in these specific areas).
Best regards,
Clinton
On 7/9/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
> software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
> everyone selects everything. :-)
>
> So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
> pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
> "most important" one....
>
> Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
> doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
> as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
> than choosing multiples).
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
>
> On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> > future versions of iBATIS.
> >
> > Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> > product you want.
> >
> > It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> > displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> > results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> > the faster you'll get to see the results.
> >
> > http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
> >
> > Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> > avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> > survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> > to validate against the list etc.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Clinton
> >
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
everyone selects everything. :-)
So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
"most important" one....
Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
than choosing multiples).
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
everyone selects everything. :-)
So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
"most important" one....
Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
than choosing multiples).
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Larry Meadors <lm...@apache.org>.
Just one more step on the way to total global domination...nothing major. ;-)
Larry
On 8/2/07, ITVGuy2000 <hh...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> I am curious, what are your findings?
>
> What are you up to?
>
> ITVGuy2000
>
>
> Clinton Begin wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> > future versions of iBATIS.
> >
> > Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> > product you want.
> >
> > It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> > displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> > results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> > the faster you'll get to see the results.
> >
> > http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
> >
> > Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> > avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> > survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> > to validate against the list etc.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Clinton
> >
> >
>
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>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by ITVGuy2000 <hh...@pobox.com>.
I am curious, what are your findings?
What are you up to?
ITVGuy2000
Clinton Begin wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
>
--
View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/iBATIS-Survey-%2810-Minutes%29-tf4043695.html#a11977156
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Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
everyone selects everything. :-)
So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
"most important" one....
Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out. If it
doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
than choosing multiples).
Cheers,
Clinton
On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
Re: R: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Unfortunately I'm running it on a very crippled VPS, Apache doesn't
even have mod_proxy installed....ARRGH! (people don't use WestHost,
they're horrible).
If you can fill it out from home, that would be great.
Clinton
On 7/9/07, Davide Rogora <dr...@unionefiduciaria.it> wrote:
> My company proxy prevents me to use port 81.
> Is it possible tu put the survey on port 80?
>
> Thanks!
> Davide.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Clinton Begin [mailto:clinton.begin@gmail.com]
> Inviato: domenica 8 luglio 2007 7.55
> A: dev@ibatis.apache.org; iBatis Java Mail List;
> user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
> Oggetto: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> future versions of iBATIS.
>
> Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> product you want.
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
> the faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
> Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
> avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
> survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
> to validate against the list etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clinton
>
>
>
Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hopefully not many. You must have a computer at home though..... ;-)
Clinton
On 7/8/07, Jason Finch <jf...@emergency.qld.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Clinton,
>
> Sorry, corp firewall prohibits anything other than ports 80/8080/443.
> Any chance of changing ports? (Not sure how many others this may affect
> for responses)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clinton Begin [mailto:clinton.begin@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 3:55 PM
> To: dev@ibatis.apache.org; iBatis Java Mail List;
> user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
> Subject: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
>
> It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
> displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey, the
> faster you'll get to see the results.
>
> http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
>
>
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R: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Davide Rogora <dr...@unionefiduciaria.it>.
My company proxy prevents me to use port 81.
Is it possible tu put the survey on port 80?
Thanks!
Davide.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Clinton Begin [mailto:clinton.begin@gmail.com]
Inviato: domenica 8 luglio 2007 7.55
A: dev@ibatis.apache.org; iBatis Java Mail List;
user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
Oggetto: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Hi everyone,
I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
future versions of iBATIS.
Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
product you want.
It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey,
the faster you'll get to see the results.
http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
Don't be shy about the email address requirement. It is simply to
avoid spam, trolling etc. This is not a 3rd party company running the
survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not. We'll only use it
to validate against the list etc.
Best regards,
Clinton
RE: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Posted by Jason Finch <jf...@emergency.qld.gov.au>.
Hi Clinton,
Sorry, corp firewall prohibits anything other than ports 80/8080/443.
Any chance of changing ports? (Not sure how many others this may affect
for responses)
-----Original Message-----
From: Clinton Begin [mailto:clinton.begin@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 3:55 PM
To: dev@ibatis.apache.org; iBatis Java Mail List;
user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
Subject: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
It should only take 10 minutes to fill out. The results are not
displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
results have been submitted. So the faster you complete the survey, the
faster you'll get to see the results.
http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
This correspondence is for the named persons only.
It may contain confidential or privileged information or both.
No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission.
If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender.
You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient.
Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly,
and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland.