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Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Hi all
Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the templates
pages named .page and not .xml ?
It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the other
hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed accordingly but
all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
Do you have any idea on the topic ?
Thanks in advance
ZedroS
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com>.
Yes you can provide the delegate. The delegate is the short circuit. I
was referring to the fact that the regular coded part of Tapestry is
not configurable.
Geoff
On 5/18/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Or, maybe we should be setting the "
> org.apache.tapestry.specification-resolver-delegate" key to instantiate our
> own implementation of "
> org.apache.tapestry.resolver.ISpecificationResolverDelegate"?
>
>
> On 5/18/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > Couldn't you override the implementation of the "
> > tapestry.page.ComponentSpecificationResolver" service point to resolve
> > specifications elsewhere? You could maybe "borrow" some of your
> > implementation from the default implementation. If you wanted, you could
> > change the implementation into a pipeline and put their resolver at the end
> > and put your custom resolver in front of it so you could only override
> > certain components' specifications. Just a thought.
> >
> > James
> >
> > p.s. I didn't exactly dig into the code to see what uses this class, but
> > from its name and API, it seems that this is the place to do some
> > customization. Jesse? Howard? Someone?
> >
> >
> > On 5/18/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Arg. Quite ironical for something implementing IoS and such of things no
> > > ?
> > > Just kidding !
> > >
> > > Would it be a possibility for a change on this point in Tapestry 5 ? :$
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > ZedroS
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: use the same template for several pages
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Have you tried creating your own "Border" component which contains the
header/footer? Then, you can just use that component on any page you
want.
> hello,
>
> i would like to use the same html template for 2 or more website.
> is that possible ?
>
> what i would like to to is having a template with the static header and
> static footer
> and an dynamic content - like that:
>
> <html><body>
> <a href="www.hallo.de">hallo</a> ..... <!-- header -->
> <span jwcid="content"/>
> copyright by ..... <!-- footer -->
> </body></html>
>
> and then for differnet pages setting different tapestry componetens for
> jwcid=> content
>
> greetings grischan
>
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use the same template for several pages
Posted by glanzel <gl...@gmx.de>.
hello,
i would like to use the same html template for 2 or more website.
is that possible ?
what i would like to to is having a template with the static header and
static footer
and an dynamic content - like that:
<html><body>
<a href="www.hallo.de">hallo</a> ..... <!-- header -->
<span jwcid="content"/>
copyright by ..... <!-- footer -->
</body></html>
and then for differnet pages setting different tapestry componetens for
jwcid=> content
greetings grischan
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Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>.
Could you provide more information on how to do it ? I'm quite new to
Tapestry...
Thanks in advance !
ZedroS
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Or, maybe we should be setting the "
org.apache.tapestry.specification-resolver-delegate" key to instantiate our
own implementation of "
org.apache.tapestry.resolver.ISpecificationResolverDelegate"?
On 5/18/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Couldn't you override the implementation of the "
> tapestry.page.ComponentSpecificationResolver" service point to resolve
> specifications elsewhere? You could maybe "borrow" some of your
> implementation from the default implementation. If you wanted, you could
> change the implementation into a pipeline and put their resolver at the end
> and put your custom resolver in front of it so you could only override
> certain components' specifications. Just a thought.
>
> James
>
> p.s. I didn't exactly dig into the code to see what uses this class, but
> from its name and API, it seems that this is the place to do some
> customization. Jesse? Howard? Someone?
>
>
> On 5/18/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Arg. Quite ironical for something implementing IoS and such of things no
> > ?
> > Just kidding !
> >
> > Would it be a possibility for a change on this point in Tapestry 5 ? :$
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > ZedroS
> >
> >
>
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Couldn't you override the implementation of the "
tapestry.page.ComponentSpecificationResolver" service point to resolve
specifications elsewhere? You could maybe "borrow" some of your
implementation from the default implementation. If you wanted, you could
change the implementation into a pipeline and put their resolver at the end
and put your custom resolver in front of it so you could only override
certain components' specifications. Just a thought.
James
p.s. I didn't exactly dig into the code to see what uses this class, but
from its name and API, it seems that this is the place to do some
customization. Jesse? Howard? Someone?
On 5/18/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Arg. Quite ironical for something implementing IoS and such of things no ?
> Just kidding !
>
> Would it be a possibility for a change on this point in Tapestry 5 ? :$
>
> Thanks in advance
> ZedroS
>
>
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>.
Arg. Quite ironical for something implementing IoS and such of things no ?
Just kidding !
Would it be a possibility for a change on this point in Tapestry 5 ? :$
Thanks in advance
ZedroS
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com>.
Zedro,
There is no way to change that. It's hardcoded.
Geoff
On 5/18/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info Geoff. Is it supposed to change anytime soon ?
>
> BTW, is it possible to change the config so it considers the pages in .xml
> or .page.xml ?
>
> It could be useful.
>
> On 5/17/06, Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's a convention that was decided on years before Hibernate existed.
> >
> > I like it the way it is. .page = a Page
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > On 5/17/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We agree ;)
> > >
> > > But there may be a good reason behind these .page. Does anyone know ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > ZedroS
> > > On 5/16/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and
> > > > *.page.xml in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration
> > to
> > > > recognize the files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it
> > works
> > > > wery well.
> > > >
> > > > Konstantin Ignatyev
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen
> > > > million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of
> > > > tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate
> > between
> > > > forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of
> > topsoil, add
> > > > 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population
> > by
> > > > 263,000
> > > >
> > > > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement
> > Needs
> > > > a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New
> > York: State
> > > > University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:22:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the
> > > > templates
> > > > pages named .page and not .xml ?
> > > >
> > > > It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the
> > other
> > > > hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed
> > accordingly
> > > > but
> > > > all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any idea on the topic ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > ZedroS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Blog: http://jroller.com/page/glongman
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Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the info Geoff. Is it supposed to change anytime soon ?
BTW, is it possible to change the config so it considers the pages in .xml
or .page.xml ?
It could be useful.
On 5/17/06, Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's a convention that was decided on years before Hibernate existed.
>
> I like it the way it is. .page = a Page
>
> Geoff
>
> On 5/17/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We agree ;)
> >
> > But there may be a good reason behind these .page. Does anyone know ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > ZedroS
> > On 5/16/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and
> > > *.page.xml in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration
> to
> > > recognize the files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it
> works
> > > wery well.
> > >
> > > Konstantin Ignatyev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen
> > > million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of
> > > tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate
> between
> > > forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of
> topsoil, add
> > > 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population
> by
> > > 263,000
> > >
> > > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement
> Needs
> > > a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New
> York: State
> > > University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>
> > > To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:22:52 PM
> > > Subject: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the
> > > templates
> > > pages named .page and not .xml ?
> > >
> > > It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the
> other
> > > hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed
> accordingly
> > > but
> > > all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
> > >
> > > Do you have any idea on the topic ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > ZedroS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> The Spindle guy. http://spindle.sf.net
> Blog: http://jroller.com/page/glongman
> Other interests: http://www.squidoo.com/spaceelevator/
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Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@gmail.com>.
It's a convention that was decided on years before Hibernate existed.
I like it the way it is. .page = a Page
Geoff
On 5/17/06, ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We agree ;)
>
> But there may be a good reason behind these .page. Does anyone know ?
>
> Thanks in advance
> ZedroS
> On 5/16/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and
> > *.page.xml in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration to
> > recognize the files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it works
> > wery well.
> >
> > Konstantin Ignatyev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen
> > million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of
> > tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between
> > forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add
> > 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by
> > 263,000
> >
> > Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs
> > a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State
> > University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>
> > To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:22:52 PM
> > Subject: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the
> > templates
> > pages named .page and not .xml ?
> >
> > It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the other
> > hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed accordingly
> > but
> > all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
> >
> > Do you have any idea on the topic ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > ZedroS
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>.
We agree ;)
But there may be a good reason behind these .page. Does anyone know ?
Thanks in advance
ZedroS
On 5/16/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and
> *.page.xml in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration to
> recognize the files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it works
> wery well.
>
> Konstantin Ignatyev
>
>
>
>
> PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen
> million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of
> tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between
> forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add
> 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by
> 263,000
>
> Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs
> a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State
> University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>
> To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:22:52 PM
> Subject: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
>
> Hi all
>
> Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the
> templates
> pages named .page and not .xml ?
>
> It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the other
> hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed accordingly
> but
> all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
>
> Do you have any idea on the topic ?
>
> Thanks in advance
> ZedroS
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Posted by Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com>.
Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and *.page.xml in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration to recognize the files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it works wery well.
Konstantin Ignatyev
PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000
Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
----- Original Message ----
From: ZedroS Schwart <ze...@gmail.com>
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:22:52 PM
Subject: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?
Hi all
Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the templates
pages named .page and not .xml ?
It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the other
hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed accordingly but
all tools, whereas .page are less well known...
Do you have any idea on the topic ?
Thanks in advance
ZedroS