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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> on 2018/08/09 06:08:55 UTC
[VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively versioned TomEE 7.1.
Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x branch has been created and being actively worked on.
There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted on.
As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
- MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
- Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
With this in mind, the vote:
+1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
+-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
-1 I have a better idea
-David
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
I don't think another thread is required, unless further discussion
(hopefully on the actual work, rather than whether to do it or not) is
needed. I think Alex's reading of the VOTE was valid, the concern are
valid, and the feedback is useful.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> @Gurkan: there is no need to do a vote for java 11 support, we have to
> support it anyway or it means the server is dead and we move it to attic.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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> ee-8-high-performance>
>
>
> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 14:23, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a écrit
> :
>
> > >
> > > Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> > > dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> > > What is your point?
> > >
> > I see but this is a VOTE thread regarding MP in TomEE. Please send a new
> > email to dev@ list for Java 11 LTS support issue
> > Regards.
> > Gurkan
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Gurkan,
> > >
> > > Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> > > dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> > > What is your point?
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Alexandre
> > > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 13:56, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Non-binding:
> > > > >
> > > > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible
> (hoping
> > a
> > > > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200.
> ..
> > ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09
> according
> > > > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major
> projects
> > > > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version
> > to
> > > > > move beyond Java 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with
> > this
> > > > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alexandre
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your
> > > input.
> > > > Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my
> > > email
> > > > in this thread :=) Thanks.
> > > > Gurkan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <
> alex.m3tal@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Non-binding:
> > > > >
> > > > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible
> (hoping
> > a
> > > > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200.
> ..
> > ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09
> according
> > > > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major
> projects
> > > > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version
> > to
> > > > > move beyond Java 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with
> > this
> > > > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alexandre
> > > > > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <
> david.blevins@gmail.com>
> > a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> > > flavored
> > > > > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8,
> > tentatively
> > > > > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April,
> > though
> > > I
> > > > > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from
> > > Mark to
> > > > > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a
> TomEE
> > > 7.1.x
> > > > > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> > > TomEE
> > > > > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work
> should
> > > stop
> > > > > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not
> > > working
> > > > > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to
> be
> > > voted
> > > > > on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> > > compromise:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8
> must
> > > be
> > > > > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE
> > 7.1.x.
> > > In
> > > > > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so,
> someone
> > > else
> > > > > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only
> > the
> > > > > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With this in mind, the vote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two
> > conditions
> > > > > > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > > > > > -1 I have a better idea
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -David
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
@Gurkan: there is no need to do a vote for java 11 support, we have to
support it anyway or it means the server is dead and we move it to attic.
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
<https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
<https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 14:23, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> > dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> > What is your point?
> >
> I see but this is a VOTE thread regarding MP in TomEE. Please send a new
> email to dev@ list for Java 11 LTS support issue
> Regards.
> Gurkan
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Gurkan,
> >
> > Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> > dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> > What is your point?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Alexandre
> > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 13:56, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Non-binding:
> > > >
> > > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping
> a
> > > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...
> ).
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version
> to
> > > > move beyond Java 8.
> > > >
> > > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with
> this
> > > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alexandre
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your
> > input.
> > > Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my
> > email
> > > in this thread :=) Thanks.
> > > Gurkan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Non-binding:
> > > >
> > > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping
> a
> > > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...
> ).
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version
> to
> > > > move beyond Java 8.
> > > >
> > > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with
> this
> > > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alexandre
> > > > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> > flavored
> > > > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8,
> tentatively
> > > > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April,
> though
> > I
> > > > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from
> > Mark to
> > > > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE
> > 7.1.x
> > > > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > > > >
> > > > > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> > TomEE
> > > > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should
> > stop
> > > > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not
> > working
> > > > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be
> > voted
> > > > on.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> > compromise:
> > > > >
> > > > > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must
> > be
> > > > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE
> 7.1.x.
> > In
> > > > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone
> > else
> > > > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only
> the
> > > > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > > > >
> > > > > With this in mind, the vote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two
> conditions
> > > > > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > > > > -1 I have a better idea
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
>
> Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> What is your point?
>
I see but this is a VOTE thread regarding MP in TomEE. Please send a new
email to dev@ list for Java 11 LTS support issue
Regards.
Gurkan
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Gurkan,
>
> Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> What is your point?
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexandre
> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 13:56, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> > >
> > > Non-binding:
> > >
> > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> > >
> > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > > move beyond Java 8.
> > >
> > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexandre
> > >
> > > Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your
> input.
> > Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my
> email
> > in this thread :=) Thanks.
> > Gurkan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Non-binding:
> > >
> > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> > >
> > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > > move beyond Java 8.
> > >
> > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexandre
> > > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> flavored
> > > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> > > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > > >
> > > > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though
> I
> > > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from
> Mark to
> > > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE
> 7.1.x
> > > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > > >
> > > > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> TomEE
> > > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should
> stop
> > > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not
> working
> > > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be
> voted
> > > on.
> > > >
> > > > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> compromise:
> > > >
> > > > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must
> be
> > > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x.
> In
> > > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > > >
> > > > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone
> else
> > > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> > > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > > >
> > > > With this in mind, the vote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > > > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > > > -1 I have a better idea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Ivan Junckes Filho <iv...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 9:04 AM Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Gurkan,
>
> Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
> dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
> What is your point?
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexandre
> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 13:56, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> > >
> > > Non-binding:
> > >
> > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> > >
> > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > > move beyond Java 8.
> > >
> > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexandre
> > >
> > > Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your
> input.
> > Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my
> email
> > in this thread :=) Thanks.
> > Gurkan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Non-binding:
> > >
> > > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> > >
> > > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > > move beyond Java 8.
> > >
> > > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexandre
> > > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> flavored
> > > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> > > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > > >
> > > > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though
> I
> > > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from
> Mark to
> > > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE
> 7.1.x
> > > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > > >
> > > > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> TomEE
> > > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should
> stop
> > > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not
> working
> > > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be
> voted
> > > on.
> > > >
> > > > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> compromise:
> > > >
> > > > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must
> be
> > > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x.
> In
> > > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > > >
> > > > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone
> else
> > > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> > > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > > >
> > > > With this in mind, the vote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > > > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > > > -1 I have a better idea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello Gurkan,
Sorry I do not understand you point: I replied to the list (using
dev@tomee.apache.org) and not just to you.
What is your point?
Kind regards,
Alexandre
Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 13:56, Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> >
> > Non-binding:
> >
> > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> >
> > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > move beyond Java 8.
> >
> > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alexandre
> >
> > Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your input.
> Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my email
> in this thread :=) Thanks.
> Gurkan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Non-binding:
> >
> > -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> > compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> > fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> >
> > Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> > to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> > (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> > move beyond Java 8.
> >
> > I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> > somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> > "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alexandre
> > Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
> > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > >
> > > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
> > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
> > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > >
> > > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
> > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
> > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
> > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
> > on.
> > >
> > > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
> > >
> > > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > >
> > > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > >
> > > With this in mind, the vote:
> > >
> > > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > > -1 I have a better idea
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
> >
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
>
> Non-binding:
>
> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
>
> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> move beyond Java 8.
>
> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
>
> Thanks,
> Alexandre
>
> Thanks for your input but this VOTE email is not related with your input.
Can you please send a new email with this? (Please don't reply to my email
in this thread :=) Thanks.
Gurkan
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Non-binding:
>
> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
>
> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> move beyond Java 8.
>
> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
>
> Thanks,
> Alexandre
> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> versioned TomEE 7.1.
> >
> > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> >
> > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
> on.
> >
> > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
> >
> > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> >
> > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> >
> > With this in mind, the vote:
> >
> > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > -1 I have a better idea
> >
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
>
> we can focus entirely in TomEE 8.
+1
Gurkan
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:43 PM Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:
> I think the idea was to release something quick with MP work on a stable
> version. The earliest conversations about this are from March / April and
> TomEE 8 was not ready back then.
>
> Right now, we have TomEE 8 with full MP 1.3 support and TomEE 7.1 with
> partial MP 1.2 support. I think there is not much we can do moving forward
> in 7.1, since implementations require CDI 2.0 and we can focus entirely in
> TomEE 8.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
> > On 24 Aug 2018, at 18:26, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > +0.5
> >
> >
> > If there are people willing to work on 7.1, then go on!
> > I'll personally focus my bit of spare time to work on TomEE8.
> > Happy if people pick this up and backport to 7.1 though.
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >> Am 09.08.2018 um 15:57 schrieb Jonathan Gallimore <
> jonathan.gallimore@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> That's good feedback, and much appreciated. I have a couple of things to
> >> clear "right now", but then I should be back onto working on Java 11
> >> support. Its likely that I'll work on that as opposed to TomEE 8 / MP,
> and
> >> time permitting, I'd like to work on MP / Jakarta EE items after the J11
> >> support.
> >>
> >> Long story short though, I believe there are people to work on the
> various
> >> items, and I'm sure those things can happen in parallel.
> >>
> >> Specifically, there is a concern that if lots of people work on TomEE
> >> 7.1.x, progress is slowed on TomEE 8, and if I'm reading the feedback
> >> correctly, some folks would prefer to drop TomEE 7.1.x altogether.
> >>
> >> Personally, I think those working on MP / Jakarta EE items should be
> free
> >> to do so, with the guidance of "please commit to master first".
> Importantly
> >> though, if they wish to backport to another branch, they should not be
> >> prevented from doing so.
> >>
> >> Similarly, I want to work on Java 11 support. I too will commit that to
> >> master, but I'd certainly want to backport that support as far back as
> >> 1.7.x if it is possible, and I feel I shouldn't be prevented from doing
> so.
> >>
> >> Hopefully that provides some re-assurance about commitment to Java 11,
> and
> >> some clarification around the VOTE.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Non-binding:
> >>>
> >>> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> >>> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> >>> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> >>> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> >>> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> >>> move beyond Java 8.
> >>>
> >>> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> >>> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> >>> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Alexandre
> >>> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> >>> écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> flavored
> >>> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> >>> versioned TomEE 7.1.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> >>> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from
> Mark to
> >>> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE
> 7.1.x
> >>> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> >>>>
> >>>> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> TomEE
> >>> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should
> stop
> >>> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not
> working
> >>> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be
> voted
> >>> on.
> >>>>
> >>>> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> compromise:
> >>>>
> >>>> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> >>> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x.
> In
> >>> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> >>> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> >>> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> >>>>
> >>>> With this in mind, the vote:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> >>>> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> >>>> -1 I have a better idea
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -David
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
I think the idea was to release something quick with MP work on a stable version. The earliest conversations about this are from March / April and TomEE 8 was not ready back then.
Right now, we have TomEE 8 with full MP 1.3 support and TomEE 7.1 with partial MP 1.2 support. I think there is not much we can do moving forward in 7.1, since implementations require CDI 2.0 and we can focus entirely in TomEE 8.
Cheers,
Roberto
> On 24 Aug 2018, at 18:26, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID> wrote:
>
> +0.5
>
>
> If there are people willing to work on 7.1, then go on!
> I'll personally focus my bit of spare time to work on TomEE8.
> Happy if people pick this up and backport to 7.1 though.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>> Am 09.08.2018 um 15:57 schrieb Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> That's good feedback, and much appreciated. I have a couple of things to
>> clear "right now", but then I should be back onto working on Java 11
>> support. Its likely that I'll work on that as opposed to TomEE 8 / MP, and
>> time permitting, I'd like to work on MP / Jakarta EE items after the J11
>> support.
>>
>> Long story short though, I believe there are people to work on the various
>> items, and I'm sure those things can happen in parallel.
>>
>> Specifically, there is a concern that if lots of people work on TomEE
>> 7.1.x, progress is slowed on TomEE 8, and if I'm reading the feedback
>> correctly, some folks would prefer to drop TomEE 7.1.x altogether.
>>
>> Personally, I think those working on MP / Jakarta EE items should be free
>> to do so, with the guidance of "please commit to master first". Importantly
>> though, if they wish to backport to another branch, they should not be
>> prevented from doing so.
>>
>> Similarly, I want to work on Java 11 support. I too will commit that to
>> master, but I'd certainly want to backport that support as far back as
>> 1.7.x if it is possible, and I feel I shouldn't be prevented from doing so.
>>
>> Hopefully that provides some re-assurance about commitment to Java 11, and
>> some clarification around the VOTE.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Non-binding:
>>>
>>> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
>>> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
>>> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
>>>
>>> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
>>> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
>>> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
>>> move beyond Java 8.
>>>
>>> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
>>> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
>>> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexandre
>>> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
>>> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
>>> versioned TomEE 7.1.
>>>>
>>>> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
>>> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
>>> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
>>> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
>>> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
>>> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
>>> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>>>>
>>>> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
>>> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
>>> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>>>>
>>>> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
>>> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
>>> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>>>>
>>>> With this in mind, the vote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
>>>> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
>>>> -1 I have a better idea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de.INVALID>.
+0.5
If there are people willing to work on 7.1, then go on!
I'll personally focus my bit of spare time to work on TomEE8.
Happy if people pick this up and backport to 7.1 though.
LieGrue,
strub
> Am 09.08.2018 um 15:57 schrieb Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>:
>
> That's good feedback, and much appreciated. I have a couple of things to
> clear "right now", but then I should be back onto working on Java 11
> support. Its likely that I'll work on that as opposed to TomEE 8 / MP, and
> time permitting, I'd like to work on MP / Jakarta EE items after the J11
> support.
>
> Long story short though, I believe there are people to work on the various
> items, and I'm sure those things can happen in parallel.
>
> Specifically, there is a concern that if lots of people work on TomEE
> 7.1.x, progress is slowed on TomEE 8, and if I'm reading the feedback
> correctly, some folks would prefer to drop TomEE 7.1.x altogether.
>
> Personally, I think those working on MP / Jakarta EE items should be free
> to do so, with the guidance of "please commit to master first". Importantly
> though, if they wish to backport to another branch, they should not be
> prevented from doing so.
>
> Similarly, I want to work on Java 11 support. I too will commit that to
> master, but I'd certainly want to backport that support as far back as
> 1.7.x if it is possible, and I feel I shouldn't be prevented from doing so.
>
> Hopefully that provides some re-assurance about commitment to Java 11, and
> some clarification around the VOTE.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Non-binding:
>>
>> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
>> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
>> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
>>
>> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
>> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
>> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
>> move beyond Java 8.
>>
>> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
>> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
>> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alexandre
>> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>>
>>> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
>> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
>> versioned TomEE 7.1.
>>>
>>> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
>> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
>> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
>> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>>>
>>> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
>> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
>> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
>> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
>> on.
>>>
>>> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>>>
>>> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
>> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
>> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>>>
>>> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
>> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
>> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>>>
>>> With this in mind, the vote:
>>>
>>> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
>>> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
>>> -1 I have a better idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
That's good feedback, and much appreciated. I have a couple of things to
clear "right now", but then I should be back onto working on Java 11
support. Its likely that I'll work on that as opposed to TomEE 8 / MP, and
time permitting, I'd like to work on MP / Jakarta EE items after the J11
support.
Long story short though, I believe there are people to work on the various
items, and I'm sure those things can happen in parallel.
Specifically, there is a concern that if lots of people work on TomEE
7.1.x, progress is slowed on TomEE 8, and if I'm reading the feedback
correctly, some folks would prefer to drop TomEE 7.1.x altogether.
Personally, I think those working on MP / Jakarta EE items should be free
to do so, with the guidance of "please commit to master first". Importantly
though, if they wish to backport to another branch, they should not be
prevented from doing so.
Similarly, I want to work on Java 11 support. I too will commit that to
master, but I'd certainly want to backport that support as far back as
1.7.x if it is possible, and I feel I shouldn't be prevented from doing so.
Hopefully that provides some re-assurance about commitment to Java 11, and
some clarification around the VOTE.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Non-binding:
>
> -1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
> compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
> fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
>
> Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
> to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
> (Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
> move beyond Java 8.
>
> I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
> somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
> "new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
>
> Thanks,
> Alexandre
> Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> versioned TomEE 7.1.
> >
> > Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> >
> > There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
> on.
> >
> > As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
> >
> > - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> >
> > - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> >
> > With this in mind, the vote:
> >
> > +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > -1 I have a better idea
> >
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Alex The Rocker <al...@gmail.com>.
Non-binding:
-1 : if there's a lack of resource i'd prefer to see first TomEE
compatibility with Java 11 LTS addressed as soon as possible (hoping a
fix for at least https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2200...).
Indeed, Java 11 LTS is supposed to be soon available (25/09 according
to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/11/) and most major projects
(Hadoop, etc.) are waiting for this LTS (Long Term Support) version to
move beyond Java 8.
I have the felling that any major release from TomEE arriving
somewhere in November should be as ready as possible to live with this
"new Java for the couple of upcoming years..."
Thanks,
Alexandre
Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:09, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively versioned TomEE 7.1.
>
> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>
> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted on.
>
> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>
> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>
> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>
> With this in mind, the vote:
>
> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> -1 I have a better idea
>
>
>
> -David
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
+1
Some notes: Committing to master MUST happen first. If folks want to port
to 7.1.x, they SHOULD NOT be prevented from doing so. Other work, such as
Java 11 support or other maintenance SHOULD NOT be blocked by TomEE 8 / MP
work.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:08 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> versioned TomEE 7.1.
>
> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>
> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE 8,
> which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop and
> everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working on
> TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted on.
>
> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>
> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>
> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>
> With this in mind, the vote:
>
> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> -1 I have a better idea
>
>
>
> -David
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
+1 to start MP work on TomEE 8 master and then back port to the 7.1.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonteiro@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> Still don't see why a vote is needed. Let's move on and work on TomEE now
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Roberto Cortez
> <radcortez@yahoo.com.invalid
> > wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > > On 9 Aug 2018, at 09:54, Matthew Broadhead <
> matthew.broadhead@nbmlaw.co.uk.INVALID>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > +0
> > >
> > > if TomEE 8 is available then i will use that, and probably never
> install
> > 7.1.x. they both target java 8 anyway so it won't help if you are stuck
> on
> > a lower version?
> > >
> > > On 09/08/18 08:08, David Blevins wrote:
> > >> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7
> flavored
> > release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> > versioned TomEE 7.1.
> > >>
> > >> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> > vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark
> to
> > wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE
> 7.1.x
> > branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> > >>
> > >> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from
> TomEE
> > 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
> > and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
> > on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be
> voted
> > on.
> > >>
> > >> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following
> compromise:
> > >>
> > >> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> > merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> > short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> > >>
> > >> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone
> else
> > can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> > willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> > >>
> > >> With this in mind, the vote:
> > >>
> > >> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> > >> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> > >> -1 I have a better idea
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -David
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
+1
Still don't see why a vote is needed. Let's move on and work on TomEE now
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Roberto Cortez <radcortez@yahoo.com.invalid
> wrote:
> +1
>
> > On 9 Aug 2018, at 09:54, Matthew Broadhead <ma...@nbmlaw.co.uk.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > +0
> >
> > if TomEE 8 is available then i will use that, and probably never install
> 7.1.x. they both target java 8 anyway so it won't help if you are stuck on
> a lower version?
> >
> > On 09/08/18 08:08, David Blevins wrote:
> >> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored
> release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively
> versioned TomEE 7.1.
> >>
> >> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I
> vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to
> wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x
> branch has been created and being actively worked on.
> >>
> >> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE
> 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop
> and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working
> on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted
> on.
> >>
> >> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
> >>
> >> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be
> merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In
> short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
> >>
> >> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else
> can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the
> willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
> >>
> >> With this in mind, the vote:
> >>
> >> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> >> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> >> -1 I have a better idea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
+1
> On 9 Aug 2018, at 09:54, Matthew Broadhead <ma...@nbmlaw.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:
>
> +0
>
> if TomEE 8 is available then i will use that, and probably never install 7.1.x. they both target java 8 anyway so it won't help if you are stuck on a lower version?
>
> On 09/08/18 08:08, David Blevins wrote:
>> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively versioned TomEE 7.1.
>>
>> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>>
>> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted on.
>>
>> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>>
>> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>>
>> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>>
>> With this in mind, the vote:
>>
>> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
>> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
>> -1 I have a better idea
>>
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Allow an MicroProfile-focused TomEE 7.1 release
Posted by Matthew Broadhead <ma...@nbmlaw.co.uk.INVALID>.
+0
if TomEE 8 is available then i will use that, and probably never install
7.1.x. they both target java 8 anyway so it won't help if you are stuck
on a lower version?
On 09/08/18 08:08, David Blevins wrote:
> For a few months we've discussed doing and not doing a TomEE 7 flavored release of MicroProfile 1.x for Java EE 7 users on Java 8, tentatively versioned TomEE 7.1.
>
> Earliest email with TomEE 7.1 in the subject is around April, though I vaguely recall it mentioned before. I recall seeing a request from Mark to wait on it till after 7.0.5 was released. That's now out and a TomEE 7.1.x branch has been created and being actively worked on.
>
> There seem to be concerns that this will draw attention away from TomEE 8, which is understandable, and some sentiment that this work should stop and everyone focus on TomEE 8. I haven't seen anyone suggest not working on TomEE 8, so I'll assume that as a constant that doesn't need to be voted on.
>
> As the concern is largely resources, I propose the following compromise:
>
> - MicroProfile related PRs that can possibly apply to TomEE 8 must be merged to master *before* the equivalent can be merged to TomEE 7.1.x. In short, everyone must work on TomEE 8.
>
> - Those who wish to focus time only on TomEE 8 may do so, someone else can merge the PR to 7.1.x if they have the energy. In short, only the willing need work on TomEE 7.1.x
>
> With this in mind, the vote:
>
> +1 Allow work on TomEE 7.1 to proceed with the above two conditions
> +-O Abstain or don't feel strongly
> -1 I have a better idea
>
>
>
> -David
>