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ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Hello Forum,
I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I
brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was
going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my
document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes
half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a
note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing.
I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it
positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't
actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of
opening it though.
I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a
year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
Details:
Involved participants:
Mac OS 10.5.8
Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
OpenOffice 3
Thank you!!
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Dan Lewis <el...@gmail.com>.
You mentioned that it is an old Mac. Two possibilities that occur
to me: the hard drive may need to be replaced, the RAM may need
replacing, or perhaps both.
--Dan
On 12/03/2012 03:47 PM, damali ayo wrote:
> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>
> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange
> way.
>
> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but
> don't show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes
> section appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i
> think the information is all there...somewhere.
>
> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on
> this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the
> .odt file?
>
> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>
> damali
>
>> Profile location is given here (same topic):
>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Hagar,
>>>
>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that
>>> process.
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a
>>>>> "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc
>>>>> over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc
>>>>> at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several
>>>>> sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this
>>>>> (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems
>>>>> persist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange
>>>>> when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it
>>>>> only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and
>>>>> re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse
>>>>>> engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this
>>>>>> format.
>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way
>>>>>> you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to
>>>>>> increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt
>>>>>> it will change anything in your case:
>>>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open
>>>>>>> Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of
>>>>>>> word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed
>>>>>>> to be reading my document very strangely. The header
>>>>>>> disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on
>>>>>>> a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the
>>>>>>> end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or
>>>>>>> why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in
>>>>>>> the middle of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't
>>>>>>> actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of
>>>>>>> opening it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for
>>>>>>> over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer,
>>>>>>> I know)
>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!!
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by VA <cu...@hotmail.com>.
That's been my experience as well. I know a lot of programs tout Word
compatibility, but I've found that compatibility is an elusive feature. When
possible, I'll distill a file down to a plain .txt file to transfer from one
program to another. Of course, I lose all formatting, footnotes and
endnotes, which may not be acceptable. But, I've never been able to cleanly
convert a .doc file into a perfectly formatted .odt file. Something always
gets in the way.
Virgil
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Groenescheij
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:57 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
There's a lot of assumptions here, without seeing
the document nobody can fix it.
Opening a doc file in OpenOffice doesn't convert
the unstructured Microsoft Word file into a
structured OpenOffice file, which works best if
you work with Styles.
Unless you clean-up the document you will have
problems.
Martin
On 4/12/2012 12:39 PM, James Plante wrote:
> It's a computer, for chrissake. It doesn't (or shouldn't) care how long a
> document is. Programs fault because of either logic errors or runtime
> errors. In this case, it looks like memory management may be at fault, or
> maybe a dangling pointer or something. I don't really have any idea. Maybe
> it's just an integer out of range somewhere, or a bollixed-up hash table.
> It's way over my pay grade to fix it, but someone with the necessary
> knowledge can d/l Neo's source code (it's based on OOo) and see how
> Patrick (Neo's sole engineer) addressed the problem.
>
> At any rate, if word processing is mission-critical, and the word
> processor fails in one operation, should you trust it with critical work?
> And if it can keep straight the complexity of a master doc, it should be
> able to keep track of a single document. One of the reasons I *don't* use
> master docs is because of the extra work needed to cross-reference various
> parts of a report, e.g., on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page
> 98. (And page 98 keeps incrementing as your document grows; it finally
> ends up being on page 210--and your cross-reference reflects that.)
>
> I really, really like AOO, but if it faults out on long docs, I'll keep
> using Neo until it works without failing.
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:22 PM, VA <cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if it might be helpful to save larger works into smaller chunks
>> and then use the Master Document feature to bring them all together. It
>> takes some getting used to, but once learned, it has some neat advantages
>> to trying to edit several hundred pages in one file.
>>
>> Virgil
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: James Plante
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:05 PM
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
>>
>> I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a
>> 200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started
>> the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in
>> NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at
>> http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but
>> if it saves your book, it's worth it.
>>
>> Jim Plante
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>>>
>>> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange
>>> way.
>>>
>>> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't
>>> show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section
>>> appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the
>>> information is all there...somewhere.
>>>
>>> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on
>>> this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the
>>> .odt file?
>>>
>>> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Profile location is given here (same topic):
>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>>>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hagar,
>>>>>
>>>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save
>>>>>>> as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a
>>>>>>> week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several
>>>>>>> sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this
>>>>>>> (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems
>>>>>>> persist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when
>>>>>>> i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let
>>>>>>> me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened.
>>>>>>> That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> damali
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse
>>>>>>>> engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this
>>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way
>>>>>>>> you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to
>>>>>>>> increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it
>>>>>>>> will change anything in your case:
>>>>>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open
>>>>>>>>> Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of
>>>>>>>>> word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to
>>>>>>>>> be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the
>>>>>>>>> endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the
>>>>>>>>> text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then
>>>>>>>>> others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I
>>>>>>>>> open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't
>>>>>>>>> actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of
>>>>>>>>> opening it though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over
>>>>>>>>> a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I
>>>>>>>>> know)
>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!!
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> damali ayo
>>>
>>> ~ a garden of stories and a cup of tea ~
>>> Please pay me a visit at a fresh new web site:
>>> http://damaliayo.com
>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
There's a lot of assumptions here, without seeing
the document nobody can fix it.
Opening a doc file in OpenOffice doesn't convert
the unstructured Microsoft Word file into a
structured OpenOffice file, which works best if
you work with Styles.
Unless you clean-up the document you will have
problems.
Martin
On 4/12/2012 12:39 PM, James Plante wrote:
> It's a computer, for chrissake. It doesn't (or shouldn't) care how long a document is. Programs fault because of either logic errors or runtime errors. In this case, it looks like memory management may be at fault, or maybe a dangling pointer or something. I don't really have any idea. Maybe it's just an integer out of range somewhere, or a bollixed-up hash table. It's way over my pay grade to fix it, but someone with the necessary knowledge can d/l Neo's source code (it's based on OOo) and see how Patrick (Neo's sole engineer) addressed the problem.
>
> At any rate, if word processing is mission-critical, and the word processor fails in one operation, should you trust it with critical work? And if it can keep straight the complexity of a master doc, it should be able to keep track of a single document. One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g., on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--and your cross-reference reflects that.)
>
> I really, really like AOO, but if it faults out on long docs, I'll keep using Neo until it works without failing.
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:22 PM, VA <cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if it might be helpful to save larger works into smaller chunks and then use the Master Document feature to bring them all together. It takes some getting used to, but once learned, it has some neat advantages to trying to edit several hundred pages in one file.
>>
>> Virgil
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: James Plante
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:05 PM
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
>>
>> I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a 200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but if it saves your book, it's worth it.
>>
>> Jim Plante
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>>>
>>> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
>>>
>>> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the information is all there...somewhere.
>>>
>>> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the .odt file?
>>>
>>> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Profile location is given here (same topic): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>>>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hagar,
>>>>>
>>>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> damali
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!!
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>>> --
>>>
>>> damali ayo
>>>
>>> ~ a garden of stories and a cup of tea ~
>>> Please pay me a visit at a fresh new web site:
>>> http://damaliayo.com
>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Le 04/12/2012 14:39, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :
> I have two documents of formatted text, linked Table of Contents, footnotes, endnotes and hyperlinks, each of well over 200 pages, which I regularly edit and expand, without trace of any goofiness on their part (I don't mention goofiness as applied to myself - "Nemo judex in sua causa"[the reference is Coke, in Dr Bonham's case, if anyone is interested.
+1.
At work, I use .odt files above 3MB with more than 200 to 500 tables and more than 50 pics (embedded) and have never had any problem (under W2k, then Vista and XP now). The files are sometimes opened throughout the whole day (2 of them, sometimes more but for less than half an hour usually).
But I never use .doc or imported .doc with AOO and use styles as much as possible.
Hagar
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:34:18 +0100
Josef Latt <Jo...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.12.2012 18:21, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:26 -0600
> > James Plante <ji...@me.com> wrote:
>
> > In OpenOffice /Tools /Options (/Options is under Preferences on a Mac) in the OpenOffice/rg:Memory section there are adjustments for various memory settings. Some of these are for graphics, but there is a main setting which (from memory) is 256MB for OpenOffice itself.
>
> You aren't right. This setting is only for graphics.
>
Very frequently unstable files contain graphics, about which one may or may not have been informed, so a first step towards remedying instability is to increase this setting, if it will allow. I have a vague memory that it would not take an inserted value on some operating systems (Windows?), but had to be increased using the spin buttons. Also worth changing is the number of Undo steps on the same page: can anyone remember the last hundred? So 10 or 20 seems a more realistic setting for that.
--
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Josef Latt <Jo...@gmx.net>.
Am 04.12.2012 18:21, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:26 -0600
> James Plante <ji...@me.com> wrote:
> In OpenOffice /Tools /Options (/Options is under Preferences on a Mac) in the OpenOffice/rg:Memory section there are adjustments for various memory settings. Some of these are for graphics, but there is a main setting which (from memory) is 256MB for OpenOffice itself.
You aren't right. This setting is only for graphics.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:26 -0600
James Plante <ji...@me.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
> > Just for badness, I once created an OpenOffice document of 22K+ pages (yes, over 22,000 pages), of plain text. I can't remember how many copies of War and Peace it was, but it could be edited and saved, although so slow as to be effectively unuseable.
> >
> > I have two documents of formatted text, linked Table of Contents, footnotes, endnotes and hyperlinks, each of well over 200 pages, which I regularly edit and expand, without trace of any goofiness on their part
>
> Rory, thanks for that info. That tells me that my goofiness problem may be system-related. I'm on a Mac, so it may have nothing to do with the AOO code itself. That yours worked, even miserably slowly, tells me I've got a different problem than I thought I had. It's still above my pay grade to fix it, though. :-(
>
In OpenOffice /Tools /Options (/Options is under Preferences on a Mac) in the OpenOffice/rg:Memory section there are adjustments for various memory settings. Some of these are for graphics, but there is a main setting which (from memory) is 256MB for OpenOffice itself. Increase this to 512 MB( Max allowable?) and restart OpenOffice, including any quickstarter. It is frequently best to close OO and restart the computer to be certain this setting takes. Most Volunteers on the Forum will have made this change so long ago that we forget to recommend it.
As an aside: ought not this memory allocation be increased in future releases of AOO; 256/512 MB used be ample, but with 8/16GB machines, perhaps the memory management of AOO needs revision.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by VA <cu...@hotmail.com>.
I have never adjusted the memory settings in over ten years of using OO. I
just checked and my current memory for OO itself is set at 20 mg. I've never
experienced performance problems with the program, so I'm not going to
change anything right now.
But, what is the downside to increasing this number? Does it affect the
ability of other programs to run?
Virgil
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Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:26 -0600 James Plante <ji...@me.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>> wrote:
>>
<snip>
>>
> In OpenOffice /Tools /Options (/Options is under Preferences on a
> Mac) in the OpenOffice/rg:Memory section there are adjustments for
> various memory settings. Some of these are for graphics, but there
> is a main setting which (from memory) is 256MB for OpenOffice itself.
> Increase this to 512 MB( Max allowable?) and restart OpenOffice,
> including any quickstarter. It is frequently best to close OO and
> restart the computer to be certain this setting takes. Most
> Volunteers on the Forum will have made this change so long ago that
> we forget to recommend it.
>
Rory;
On my Windows XPsp3 system running AOO 3.4.1 the setting for Use for
OpenOffice.org is under Graphics Cache and max's out at 256 you can
highlight it and overwrite it, but it does not take.
Keith N. McKenna
> As an aside: ought not this memory allocation be increased in future
> releases of AOO; 256/512 MB used be ample, but with 8/16GB machines,
> perhaps the memory management of AOO needs revision.
>
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Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:24:26 -0600 James Plante <ji...@me.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>> wrote:
>>
<snip>
>>
> In OpenOffice /Tools /Options (/Options is under Preferences on a
> Mac) in the OpenOffice/rg:Memory section there are adjustments for
> various memory settings. Some of these are for graphics, but there
> is a main setting which (from memory) is 256MB for OpenOffice itself.
> Increase this to 512 MB( Max allowable?) and restart OpenOffice,
> including any quickstarter. It is frequently best to close OO and
> restart the computer to be certain this setting takes. Most
> Volunteers on the Forum will have made this change so long ago that
> we forget to recommend it.
>
Rory;
On my Windows XPsp3 system running AOO 3.4.1 the setting for Use for
OpenOffice.org is under Graphics Cache and max's out at 256 you can
highlight it and overwrite it, but it does not take.
Keith N. McKenna
> As an aside: ought not this memory allocation be increased in future
> releases of AOO; 256/512 MB used be ample, but with 8/16GB machines,
> perhaps the memory management of AOO needs revision.
>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> Just for badness, I once created an OpenOffice document of 22K+ pages (yes, over 22,000 pages), of plain text. I can't remember how many copies of War and Peace it was, but it could be edited and saved, although so slow as to be effectively unuseable.
>
> I have two documents of formatted text, linked Table of Contents, footnotes, endnotes and hyperlinks, each of well over 200 pages, which I regularly edit and expand, without trace of any goofiness on their part
Rory, thanks for that info. That tells me that my goofiness problem may be system-related. I'm on a Mac, so it may have nothing to do with the AOO code itself. That yours worked, even miserably slowly, tells me I've got a different problem than I thought I had. It's still above my pay grade to fix it, though. :-(
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by VA <cu...@hotmail.com>.
Rory O'Farrell wrote,
>Just for badness, I once created an OpenOffice document of 22K+ pages (yes,
>over 22,000 pages), of plain text. I can't remember how many copies of War
>and Peace it was, but it could be edited and saved, although so slow as to
>be effectively unuseable.
>I have two documents of formatted text, linked Table of Contents,
>footnotes, endnotes and hyperlinks, each of well over 200 pages, which I
>regularly edit and expand, without trace of any goofiness on their part (I
>don't mention goofiness as applied to myself - "Nemo judex in sua
>causa"[the reference is Coke, in Dr Bonham's case, if anyone is interested.
That helps support my belief that the problem may lie in trying to convert
and share documents from different WP formats rather than in in AOO itself.
I also wasn't aware of the cross-reference issues when using master
documents. It's a good tidbit to know before one commits to using multiple
files with master documents.
Virgil
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:28:03 -0600
James Plante <ji...@me.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM> wrote:
>
> > The advantage of entering a cross-reference as a field is that you do */not have to adjust the references manually/* every time you change the document. Just update the fields with F9 and the references in the document are updated too.
>
> And with AOO, you can simply pick paragraph headings as the cross-reference if you're working on a single document. If, OTOH, you're using a master doc, then you must name the sub-file and explicitly spell out the reference. This is quite inconvenient in a big, complex document; there's also a high probability of error. If I'm working in a sub-file--say, Site Value, and I want to reference an entry in the section titled "market analysis," then the field reference has to be complete and accurate into a file that's not open, or worse, which is open and being changed by someone else.
>
> Now, a programmer who can figure out how to keep that much information straight in a dynamic document has my complete admiration. But it is easier for me to simply write a single, massive document that knows its own parts thoroughly. AOO does this until the document length exceeds about 170 pages, then it loses its mind, starts acting goofy, and won't save.
>
> And, btw, you don't have to lose your changes when that happens. Just open a new document, copy the new material from the malfunctioning one, and paste it into the new blank document. That will save nicely. The longer doc won't.
>
Just for badness, I once created an OpenOffice document of 22K+ pages (yes, over 22,000 pages), of plain text. I can't remember how many copies of War and Peace it was, but it could be edited and saved, although so slow as to be effectively unuseable.
I have two documents of formatted text, linked Table of Contents, footnotes, endnotes and hyperlinks, each of well over 200 pages, which I regularly edit and expand, without trace of any goofiness on their part (I don't mention goofiness as applied to myself - "Nemo judex in sua causa"[the reference is Coke, in Dr Bonham's case, if anyone is interested.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM> wrote:
> The advantage of entering a cross-reference as a field is that you do */not have to adjust the references manually/* every time you change the document. Just update the fields with F9 and the references in the document are updated too.
And with AOO, you can simply pick paragraph headings as the cross-reference if you're working on a single document. If, OTOH, you're using a master doc, then you must name the sub-file and explicitly spell out the reference. This is quite inconvenient in a big, complex document; there's also a high probability of error. If I'm working in a sub-file--say, Site Value, and I want to reference an entry in the section titled "market analysis," then the field reference has to be complete and accurate into a file that's not open, or worse, which is open and being changed by someone else.
Now, a programmer who can figure out how to keep that much information straight in a dynamic document has my complete admiration. But it is easier for me to simply write a single, massive document that knows its own parts thoroughly. AOO does this until the document length exceeds about 170 pages, then it loses its mind, starts acting goofy, and won't save.
And, btw, you don't have to lose your changes when that happens. Just open a new document, copy the new material from the malfunctioning one, and paste it into the new blank document. That will save nicely. The longer doc won't.
Jim Plante
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Gary Aitken <ah...@dreamchaser.org>.
On 12/04/12 02:36, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
> On 4/12/2012 5:56 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
>> On 12/03/12 23:46, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2012 5:36 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
>>>> On 12/03/12 18:39, James Plante wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because
>>>>> of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g.,
>>>>> on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps
>>>>> incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--
>>>>> and your cross-reference reflects that.)
>>>> It has been over a decade since I've written anything long like that; but 15
>>>> or so years ago good word-processing software handled this problem properly.
>>>> Indices automatically kept up to date, as did cross-chapter / file references.
>>>> If aoo doesn't do that, it should be very high on the list of things to fix /
>>>> add in the next rev.
>>>>
>>>> In that regard, I don't know if the iso standard which describes odt files
>>>> deals with this, (and I can't look at it because one has to pay ISO to get
>>>> a copy) but I would hope that it does, as it's an obvious well-known issue.
>>>> If it doesn't, it's something that should be addressed via a proposal to iso
>>>> with a sample implementation in the next rev of aoo.
>>> Is what you ask is a standard for an unstructured input?
>>> OpenOffice can deal with large files if you understand the concept of Styles.
>> I'm not familiar enough with styles to answer that for certain, but what I'm
>> talking about has nothing to do with the size of the file. I'm talking about
>> a collection of files which together comprise the total document, as if
>> concatenated end-to-end. e.g. toc.odt, contents.odt, chapter1.odt,... index.odt.
>> book.odt says it's made up of those files in that order.
>>
> That's exactly what OpenOffice can do when you take the effort to learn / understand how to work with Styles
> The Help file says this about Cross-references:
>
> The advantage of entering a cross-reference as a field is that you do */not have to adjust the references manually/* every time you change the document. Just update the fields with F9 and the references in the document are updated too.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 4/12/2012 5:56 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
> On 12/03/12 23:46, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>> On 4/12/2012 5:36 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
>>> On 12/03/12 18:39, James Plante wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because
>>>> of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g.,
>>>> on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps
>>>> incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--
>>>> and your cross-reference reflects that.)
>>> It has been over a decade since I've written anything long like that; but 15
>>> or so years ago good word-processing software handled this problem properly.
>>> Indices automatically kept up to date, as did cross-chapter / file references.
>>> If aoo doesn't do that, it should be very high on the list of things to fix /
>>> add in the next rev.
>>>
>>> In that regard, I don't know if the iso standard which describes odt files
>>> deals with this, (and I can't look at it because one has to pay ISO to get
>>> a copy) but I would hope that it does, as it's an obvious well-known issue.
>>> If it doesn't, it's something that should be addressed via a proposal to iso
>>> with a sample implementation in the next rev of aoo.
>> Is what you ask is a standard for an unstructured input?
>> OpenOffice can deal with large files if you understand the concept of Styles.
> I'm not familiar enough with styles to answer that for certain, but what I'm
> talking about has nothing to do with the size of the file. I'm talking about
> a collection of files which together comprise the total document, as if
> concatenated end-to-end. e.g. toc.odt, contents.odt, chapter1.odt,... index.odt.
> book.odt says it's made up of those files in that order.
>
That's exactly what OpenOffice can do when you
take the effort to learn / understand how to work
with Styles
The Help file says this about Cross-references:
The advantage of entering a cross-reference as a
field is that you do */not have to adjust the
references manually/* every time you change the
document. Just update the fields with F9 and the
references in the document are updated too.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Gary Aitken <ah...@dreamchaser.org>.
On 12/03/12 23:46, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
> On 4/12/2012 5:36 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
>> On 12/03/12 18:39, James Plante wrote:
>>
>>> One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because
>>> of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g.,
>>> on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps
>>> incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--
>>> and your cross-reference reflects that.)
>> It has been over a decade since I've written anything long like that; but 15
>> or so years ago good word-processing software handled this problem properly.
>> Indices automatically kept up to date, as did cross-chapter / file references.
>> If aoo doesn't do that, it should be very high on the list of things to fix /
>> add in the next rev.
>>
>> In that regard, I don't know if the iso standard which describes odt files
>> deals with this, (and I can't look at it because one has to pay ISO to get
>> a copy) but I would hope that it does, as it's an obvious well-known issue.
>> If it doesn't, it's something that should be addressed via a proposal to iso
>> with a sample implementation in the next rev of aoo.
> Is what you ask is a standard for an unstructured input?
> OpenOffice can deal with large files if you understand the concept of Styles.
I'm not familiar enough with styles to answer that for certain, but what I'm
talking about has nothing to do with the size of the file. I'm talking about
a collection of files which together comprise the total document, as if
concatenated end-to-end. e.g. toc.odt, contents.odt, chapter1.odt,... index.odt.
book.odt says it's made up of those files in that order.
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 4/12/2012 5:36 PM, Gary Aitken wrote:
> On 12/03/12 18:39, James Plante wrote:
>
>> One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because
>> of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g.,
>> on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps
>> incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--
>> and your cross-reference reflects that.)
> It has been over a decade since I've written anything long like that; but 15
> or so years ago good word-processing software handled this problem properly.
> Indices automatically kept up to date, as did cross-chapter / file references.
> If aoo doesn't do that, it should be very high on the list of things to fix /
> add in the next rev.
>
> In that regard, I don't know if the iso standard which describes odt files
> deals with this, (and I can't look at it because one has to pay ISO to get
> a copy) but I would hope that it does, as it's an obvious well-known issue.
> If it doesn't, it's something that should be addressed via a proposal to iso
> with a sample implementation in the next rev of aoo.
Is what you ask is a standard for an unstructured
input?
OpenOffice can deal with large files if you
understand the concept of Styles.
>
> Gary
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Gary Aitken <op...@dreamchaser.org>.
On 12/03/12 18:39, James Plante wrote:
> One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because
> of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g.,
> on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps
> incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--
>and your cross-reference reflects that.)
It has been over a decade since I've written anything long like that; but 15
or so years ago good word-processing software handled this problem properly.
Indices automatically kept up to date, as did cross-chapter / file references.
If aoo doesn't do that, it should be very high on the list of things to fix /
add in the next rev.
In that regard, I don't know if the iso standard which describes odt files
deals with this, (and I can't look at it because one has to pay ISO to get
a copy) but I would hope that it does, as it's an obvious well-known issue.
If it doesn't, it's something that should be addressed via a proposal to iso
with a sample implementation in the next rev of aoo.
Gary
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
It's a computer, for chrissake. It doesn't (or shouldn't) care how long a document is. Programs fault because of either logic errors or runtime errors. In this case, it looks like memory management may be at fault, or maybe a dangling pointer or something. I don't really have any idea. Maybe it's just an integer out of range somewhere, or a bollixed-up hash table. It's way over my pay grade to fix it, but someone with the necessary knowledge can d/l Neo's source code (it's based on OOo) and see how Patrick (Neo's sole engineer) addressed the problem.
At any rate, if word processing is mission-critical, and the word processor fails in one operation, should you trust it with critical work? And if it can keep straight the complexity of a master doc, it should be able to keep track of a single document. One of the reasons I *don't* use master docs is because of the extra work needed to cross-reference various parts of a report, e.g., on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page 98. (And page 98 keeps incrementing as your document grows; it finally ends up being on page 210--and your cross-reference reflects that.)
I really, really like AOO, but if it faults out on long docs, I'll keep using Neo until it works without failing.
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:22 PM, VA <cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if it might be helpful to save larger works into smaller chunks and then use the Master Document feature to bring them all together. It takes some getting used to, but once learned, it has some neat advantages to trying to edit several hundred pages in one file.
>
> Virgil
>
> -----Original Message----- From: James Plante
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:05 PM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
>
> I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a 200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but if it saves your book, it's worth it.
>
> Jim Plante
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
>
>> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>>
>> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
>>
>> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the information is all there...somewhere.
>>
>> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the .odt file?
>>
>> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>>
>> damali
>>
>>> Profile location is given here (same topic): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>>
>>> Hagar
>>>
>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hagar,
>>>>
>>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>>>
>>>> damali
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> damali
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>>>>
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>> --
>>
>> damali ayo
>>
>> ~ a garden of stories and a cup of tea ~
>> Please pay me a visit at a fresh new web site:
>> http://damaliayo.com
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by VA <cu...@hotmail.com>.
I wonder if it might be helpful to save larger works into smaller chunks and
then use the Master Document feature to bring them all together. It takes
some getting used to, but once learned, it has some neat advantages to
trying to edit several hundred pages in one file.
Virgil
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From: James Plante
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:05 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a
200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started
the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in
NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but if
it saves your book, it's worth it.
Jim Plante
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>
> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
>
> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't
> show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section
> appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the
> information is all there...somewhere.
>
> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on this
> manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the .odt file?
>
> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>
> damali
>
>> Profile location is given here (same topic):
>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Hagar,
>>>
>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save
>>>>> as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a
>>>>> week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several
>>>>> sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this
>>>>> (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems
>>>>> persist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i
>>>>> tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me
>>>>> highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's
>>>>> when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse
>>>>>> engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this
>>>>>> format.
>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you
>>>>>> keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to
>>>>>> increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it
>>>>>> will change anything in your case:
>>>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office.
>>>>>>> I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All
>>>>>>> was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading
>>>>>>> my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes
>>>>>>> half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a
>>>>>>> note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are
>>>>>>> missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the
>>>>>>> document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't
>>>>>>> actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of
>>>>>>> opening it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a
>>>>>>> year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I
>>>>>>> know)
>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a 200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but if it saves your book, it's worth it.
Jim Plante
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>
> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
>
> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the information is all there...somewhere.
>
> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the .odt file?
>
> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>
> damali
>
>> Profile location is given here (same topic): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Hagar,
>>>
>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>
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>
> damali ayo
>
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> Please pay me a visit at a fresh new web site:
> http://damaliayo.com
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Abiword may help (not sure if there is a version for Mac).
Else, can you upload the file somewhere (not sure the list allows attachments)? You can make a small file if you manage to keep that behavior. You can attach files (128kB max) in the forum. Else, mediafire.com is a good one.
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 21:47, damali ayo a écrit :
> My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
>
> I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
>
> What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the information is all there...somewhere.
>
> Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the .odt file?
>
> Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
>
> damali
>
>> Profile location is given here (same topic): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>> There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Hagar,
>>>
>>> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> damali
>>>>>
>>>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hagar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com>.
My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange way.
What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be
in the doc, but don't show up until i click them.
Other things I wrote in the notes section appear
then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's
why i think the information is all
there...somewhere.
Is there any other program that you suggest i use
to complete work on this manuscript? Will a new
version of MS word be able to import the .odt
file?
Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
damali
>Profile location is given here (same topic):
>http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
>There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
>
>Hagar
>
>Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
>
>>Hagar,
>>
>>How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>>
>>damali
>>
>>>Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>>
>>>Hagar
>>>
>>>
>>>Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>
>>>>Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>I had already saved in .odt quite a few
>>>>times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i
>>>>was working on. I had imported it from .doc
>>>>over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had
>>>>not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>>
>>>>I don't have any photos. I do have a table of
>>>>contents, several sections (14) and endnotes.
>>>>I increased the memory to support this (great
>>>>tip!), quit and restarted the program, but
>>>>the problems persist.
>>>>
>>>>I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it
>>>>was acting strange when i tried to highlight
>>>>several lines in the endnotes and it only let
>>>>me highlight random portion. So I closed the
>>>>doc and re-opened. That's when everything
>>>>went pear-shaped.
>>>>
>>>>Other ideas?
>>>>
>>>>damali
>>>>
>>>>>First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>>>Remember that the .doc import/export filters
>>>>>have been reverse engineered, you may face
>>>>>some troubles by continuing using this
>>>>>format.
>>>>>Always work in .odt and export in .doc when
>>>>>needed only. This way you keep a secure copy
>>>>>of your document.
>>>>>
>>>>>If your document has a lot of objects
>>>>>(pictures, ...), try to increase the memory
>>>>>settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>>
>>>>>If no change, you can try to reset your user
>>>>>profile but I doubt it will change anything
>>>>>in your case:
>>>>>http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>>
>>>>>Hagar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Forum,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have been chugging along on a 300 page
>>>>>>manuscript in Open Office. I brought it
>>>>>>into OO from an old (I mean old) version of
>>>>>>word. All was going well until a few
>>>>>>minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my
>>>>>>document very strangely. The header
>>>>>>disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared,
>>>>>>and when I click on a number in the text
>>>>>>for a note, it takes me to the note at the
>>>>>>end but then others are missing. I have no
>>>>>>idea what happened or why. When I open the
>>>>>>document anew it positions me somewhere in
>>>>>>the middle of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the sense that it's a viewing issue,
>>>>>>and the file isn't actually screwed up...at
>>>>>>least I hope so. I have no other way of
>>>>>>opening it though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>>>It's slightly terrifying. I've been working
>>>>>>on this book for over a year. Any help
>>>>>>would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Involved participants:
>>>>>>Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>>>Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>>>OpenOffice 3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you!!
>>>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Profile location is given here (same topic): http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
> Hagar,
>
> How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
>
> damali
>
>> Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>>
>>> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>>>
>>> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>>>
>>> Other ideas?
>>>
>>> damali
>>>
>>>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>>>
>>>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>>
>>>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>>
>>>> Hagar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Forum,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Involved participants:
>>>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com>.
Hagar,
How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that process.
damali
>Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
>
>Hagar
>
>
>Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
>
>>Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>>
>>I had already saved in .odt quite a few times,
>>this was even a "save as" .odt file i was
>>working on. I had imported it from .doc over a
>>week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone
>>back to .doc at all.
>>
>>I don't have any photos. I do have a table of
>>contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I
>>increased the memory to support this (great
>>tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the
>>problems persist.
>>
>>I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it
>>was acting strange when i tried to highlight
>>several lines in the endnotes and it only let
>>me highlight random portion. So I closed the
>>doc and re-opened. That's when everything went
>>pear-shaped.
>>
>>Other ideas?
>>
>>damali
>>
>>>First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>>>Remember that the .doc import/export filters
>>>have been reverse engineered, you may face
>>>some troubles by continuing using this format.
>>>Always work in .odt and export in .doc when
>>>needed only. This way you keep a secure copy
>>>of your document.
>>>
>>>If your document has a lot of objects
>>>(pictures, ...), try to increase the memory
>>>settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>>
>>>If no change, you can try to reset your user
>>>profile but I doubt it will change anything in
>>>your case:
>>>http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>>
>>>Hagar
>>>
>>>
>>>Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>>
>>>>Hello Forum,
>>>>
>>>>I have been chugging along on a 300 page
>>>>manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into
>>>>OO from an old (I mean old) version of word.
>>>>All was going well until a few minutes ago
>>>>when OO seemed to be reading my document very
>>>>strangely. The header disappeared, the
>>>>endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click
>>>>on a number in the text for a note, it takes
>>>>me to the note at the end but then others are
>>>>missing. I have no idea what happened or why.
>>>>When I open the document anew it positions me
>>>>somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>>
>>>>I have the sense that it's a viewing issue,
>>>>and the file isn't actually screwed up...at
>>>>least I hope so. I have no other way of
>>>>opening it though.
>>>>
>>>>I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>>>It's slightly terrifying. I've been working
>>>>on this book for over a year. Any help would
>>>>be angelic, truly.
>>>>
>>>>Details:
>>>>
>>>>Involved participants:
>>>>Mac OS 10.5.8
>>>>Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>>>OpenOffice 3
>>>>
>>>>Thank you!!
>>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
> Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
>
> I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
>
> I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this (great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems persist.
>
> I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened. That's when everything went pear-shaped.
>
> Other ideas?
>
> damali
>
>> First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>> Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
>> Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
>>
>> If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>>
>> If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>>
>> Hagar
>>
>>
>> Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello Forum,
>>>
>>> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>>>
>>> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>>>
>>> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>>>
>>> Details:
>>>
>>> Involved participants:
>>> Mac OS 10.5.8
>>> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>> OpenOffice 3
>>>
>>> Thank you!!
>>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com>.
Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
I had already saved in .odt quite a few times,
this was even a "save as" .odt file i was working
on. I had imported it from .doc over a week (and
many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc
at all.
I don't have any photos. I do have a table of
contents, several sections (14) and endnotes. I
increased the memory to support this (great
tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the
problems persist.
I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was
acting strange when i tried to highlight several
lines in the endnotes and it only let me
highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and
re-opened. That's when everything went
pear-shaped.
Other ideas?
damali
>First, save in native ODF (.odt).
>Remember that the .doc import/export filters
>have been reverse engineered, you may face some
>troubles by continuing using this format.
>Always work in .odt and export in .doc when
>needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of
>your document.
>
>If your document has a lot of objects (pictures,
>...), try to increase the memory settings
>(Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
>
>If no change, you can try to reset your user
>profile but I doubt it will change anything in
>your case:
>http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
>
>Hagar
>
>
>Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
>
>>Hello Forum,
>>
>>I have been chugging along on a 300 page
>>manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO
>>from an old (I mean old) version of word. All
>>was going well until a few minutes ago when OO
>>seemed to be reading my document very
>>strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes
>>half-disappeared, and when I click on a number
>>in the text for a note, it takes me to the note
>>at the end but then others are missing. I have
>>no idea what happened or why. When I open the
>>document anew it positions me somewhere in the
>>middle of it.
>>
>>I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and
>>the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I
>>hope so. I have no other way of opening it
>>though.
>>
>>I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
>>It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on
>>this book for over a year. Any help would be
>>angelic, truly.
>>
>>Details:
>>
>>Involved participants:
>>Mac OS 10.5.8
>>Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
>>OpenOffice 3
>>
>>Thank you!!
>
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Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
First, save in native ODF (.odt).
Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this format.
Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way you keep a secure copy of your document.
If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it will change anything in your case: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
> Hello Forum,
>
> I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of it.
>
> I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of opening it though.
>
> I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
> It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
>
> Details:
>
> Involved participants:
> Mac OS 10.5.8
> Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I know)
> OpenOffice 3
>
> Thank you!!
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