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[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Hi All,
Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working
towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and
new committers have been added.
Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation
have been ticked of [1].
This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2]. Also
the namesearch has been performed [3].
As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is
ready for graduation.
This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache
Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues
as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance
Alexander Broekhuis
(PPMC member of Apache Celix)
[1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
[2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud
[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50
[4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html
=========== Board Resolution ==========
X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification;
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Celix Project:
* Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
* Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
* Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
* Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Celix Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
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Met vriendelijke groet,
Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.eu>.
+1 from me on that as well (as one of the other mentors of the project). As I said already when this was discussed within the Celix community, I think that, although small, the community is slowly growing, they have demonstrated that they know how to do releases, discuss things on the mailing list, etc. So I agree it it time for a general vote.
Greetings, Marcel
On 13 Jun 2014, at 0:31 am, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very
> robust community that is also slowly growing.
>
> Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for
> a general@ vote.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Alexander Broekhuis
> <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello incubator folks,
>>
>> Can someone please take a look at this proposal?
>>
>>
>> 2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working
>>> towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and
>>> new committers have been added.
>>> Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation
>>> have been ticked of [1].
>>> This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2].
>>> Also the namesearch has been performed [3].
>>> As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is
>>> ready for graduation.
>>>
>>> This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache
>>> Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>>>
>>> Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues
>>> as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Alexander Broekhuis
>>> (PPMC member of Apache Celix)
>>>
>>> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
>>> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud
>>> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50
>>> [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html
>>>
>>>
>>> =========== Board Resolution ==========
>>>
>>> X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>> the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>>> specification.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>>> specification;
>>> and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>> of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>> responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>> Apache Celix Project:
>>>
>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>> Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>> Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>> Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>>
>>> Alexander Broekhuis
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>
>> Alexander Broekhuis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by abiola balogun <a_...@me.com>.
Ok
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 14, 26 Heisei, at 5:32, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>> I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very
>> robust community that is also slowly growing.
>>
>> Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for
>> a general@ vote.
>
> Hi Roman...
>
> I was hoping that some of the other more seasoned IPMC members would step up
> to comment on this, since you and I have a lot going on at the moment and
> you're a Mentor for Celix. Ah well...
>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>>>> specification;
>
> Scope statement looks good to me.
>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> Apache Celix Project:
>>>>
>>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>>>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>
> Four is a very small number for a PMC. I've commonly heard people argue that
> five should be the cutoff. If just two people move on, the project won't be
> able to make releases.
>
> My personal feeling is that small PMCs are OK when at least one member has
> been added during incubation (demonstrating openness) and when the project has
> been around for years with stable core personnel who are unlikely to
> disappear. But four is still really low, and it wouldn't surprise me if
> the Board objected.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
Hi,
2014-06-14 0:17 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>> Apache Celix Project:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
> >>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pnol...@apache.org
> >
> >>>> * Bjoern Petri <bpe...@apache.org
> >
> >>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
> >>>>
> >
> > Four is a very small number for a PMC. I've commonly heard people argue
> that
> > five should be the cutoff. If just two people move on, the project
> won't be
> > able to make releases.
>
We do know there aren't many committers/PMC members, but all documents
related to graduation mention 3 as the required amount. See [1] where it
says:
"The project is considered to have a diverse community when it is not
highly dependent on any single contributor (there are at least 3 legally
independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is
vital to the success of the project). Basically this means that when a
project mostly consists of contributors from one company, this is a sign of
not being diverse enough. You can mitigate this requirement by admitting
more external contributors to your project that have no tie to the single
entity."
> >
> > My personal feeling is that small PMCs are OK when at least one member
> has
> > been added during incubation (demonstrating openness) and when the
> project has
> > been around for years with stable core personnel who are unlikely to
> > disappear. But four is still really low, and it wouldn't surprise me if
> > the Board objected.
>
> Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
> given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
> * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage
> folks
> to consider PMC == committers
>
+1, that is what we are doing right now, even though the other committers
are not on the PPMC, they will be on the PMC.
> * if anybody actually had prior examples of board raising it as an
> issue,
> I'd appreciate seeing pointers to the discussions
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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[1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
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Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-16 23:32 GMT+02:00 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
>
> > During incubation PPMC members are not allowed to vote if they are not
> part
> > of the IPMC.
>
> That is not quite true; anyone is allowed to vote, even non-PPMC members.
> However only IPMC member votes count towards a *release* vote.
>
That is of course what I meant to say. Thanks for correcting.
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Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 16 June 2014 08:56, Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2014-06-16 0:36 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>:
>
>> On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> > Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
>> > given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
>> > * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage
>> folks
>> > to consider PMC == committers
>>
>> That is the case with Celix, correct? Looking at the status page, I only
>> see "committers" and no PMC list.
>>
>
> Yes, for the TLP we decided to make all committers PMC members.
>
>
>>
>> I would note that the number of PMC members concerns me a bit since the
>> most recent release process took more than a month b/c there weren't
>> enough VOTEs. That is somewhat tempered by the fact that the project
>> seems to have added two PMC/committers since 1.0.0.
>>
>
> During incubation PPMC members are not allowed to vote if they are not part
> of the IPMC.
That is not quite true; anyone is allowed to vote, even non-PPMC members.
However only IPMC member votes count towards a *release* vote.
> So even if all committers where also on the PPMC, that
> wouldn't have helped with the release. Wrt the release taking a long time,
> as mentioned by Marvin, Roman is a mentor, but most of his time is consumed
> by the Incubator itself. So we had to wait on the IPMC for a while (and as
> can be seen by this thread, "a while" can turn out to be days or even
> weeks).
>
>
>>
>> Also of mild concern is that Celix missed its April report (it did
>> report in May).
>>
>
> This was an unlucky combination of factors, vacations, schedules etc. As
> you mentioned, we picked it up immediately in May.
>
> What would be the best way to go now? Reading all graduation guidelines we
> are ready, but if these guidelines are not correct, I'd like to see
> statement about that. We are now left in the middle, without a clear guide
> where to go..
>
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>
> Alexander Broekhuis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-16 0:36 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>:
> On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
> > given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
> > * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage
> folks
> > to consider PMC == committers
>
> That is the case with Celix, correct? Looking at the status page, I only
> see "committers" and no PMC list.
>
Yes, for the TLP we decided to make all committers PMC members.
>
> I would note that the number of PMC members concerns me a bit since the
> most recent release process took more than a month b/c there weren't
> enough VOTEs. That is somewhat tempered by the fact that the project
> seems to have added two PMC/committers since 1.0.0.
>
During incubation PPMC members are not allowed to vote if they are not part
of the IPMC. So even if all committers where also on the PPMC, that
wouldn't have helped with the release. Wrt the release taking a long time,
as mentioned by Marvin, Roman is a mentor, but most of his time is consumed
by the Incubator itself. So we had to wait on the IPMC for a while (and as
can be seen by this thread, "a while" can turn out to be days or even
weeks).
>
> Also of mild concern is that Celix missed its April report (it did
> report in May).
>
This was an unlucky combination of factors, vacations, schedules etc. As
you mentioned, we picked it up immediately in May.
What would be the best way to go now? Reading all graduation guidelines we
are ready, but if these guidelines are not correct, I'd like to see
statement about that. We are now left in the middle, without a clear guide
where to go..
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Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
> given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
> * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage folks
> to consider PMC == committers
That is the case with Celix, correct? Looking at the status page, I only
see "committers" and no PMC list.
I would note that the number of PMC members concerns me a bit since the
most recent release process took more than a month b/c there weren't
enough VOTEs. That is somewhat tempered by the fact that the project
seems to have added two PMC/committers since 1.0.0.
Also of mild concern is that Celix missed its April report (it did
report in May).
Best,
jzb
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-16 18:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcel Offermans
> <ma...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> > Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit
> code) I would like to
> > stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the graduation
> proposal and add me.
>
> I am exactly in the same boat and would love to stay as part
> of the project to help with minutia (when needed ;-)).
>
> Alexander, feel free to update the graduation proposal and add me if
> needed.
Thanks again for helping out! I'll update the draft.
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Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcel Offermans
<ma...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I would like to
> stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the graduation proposal and add me.
I am exactly in the same boat and would love to stay as part
of the project to help with minutia (when needed ;-)).
Alexander, feel free to update the graduation proposal and add me if needed.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-16 15:52 GMT+02:00 Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.eu>:
>
> >
> > A simple solution to that is for at least one of the mentors to stay
> > on the new PMC, would one of them agree to do that? It doesn't mean
> > you have to be very active, but at least stay there just in case.
>
> Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit
> code) I would like to stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the
> graduation proposal and add me.
>
I'll add you to the proposal, thanks for helping out!
Ps: Is there some wiki where the draft needs to be posted as well?
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2014-06-16 15:52 GMT+02:00 Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.eu>:
> Hello Bertrand,
>
> On 16 Jun 2014, at 8:57 am, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
> >> Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012:
> > ...
> >> People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need at least five
> >> active PMC members at graduation time, so as to get three votes when
> >> needed, with some "spares". Mentors staying on board can of course
> >> count in those five....
> >
> > Thanks Marvin for digging this up, and yes I still agree with myself ;-)
> >
> > The board might or might not object to graduation but regardless it
> > would IMO be much better to have at least one more PMC member,
> > otherwise the board might have to step in if the PMC becomes too
> > small, and it would most probably do so without much context about the
> > project which is far from ideal.
> >
> > A simple solution to that is for at least one of the mentors to stay
> > on the new PMC, would one of them agree to do that? It doesn't mean
> > you have to be very active, but at least stay there just in case.
>
> Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit
> code) I would like to stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the
> graduation proposal and add me.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Marcel,
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Marcel Offermans
<ma...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> ...Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I
> would like to stay involved...
Fantastic! Thanks.
-Bertrand
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.eu>.
Hello Bertrand,
On 16 Jun 2014, at 8:57 am, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>> Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012:
> ...
>> People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need at least five
>> active PMC members at graduation time, so as to get three votes when
>> needed, with some "spares". Mentors staying on board can of course
>> count in those five....
>
> Thanks Marvin for digging this up, and yes I still agree with myself ;-)
>
> The board might or might not object to graduation but regardless it
> would IMO be much better to have at least one more PMC member,
> otherwise the board might have to step in if the PMC becomes too
> small, and it would most probably do so without much context about the
> project which is far from ideal.
>
> A simple solution to that is for at least one of the mentors to stay
> on the new PMC, would one of them agree to do that? It doesn't mean
> you have to be very active, but at least stay there just in case.
Since I regularly get involved in discussions (but hardly ever commit code) I would like to stay involved. So, Alexander, feel free to update the graduation proposal and add me.
Greetings, Marcel
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012:
...
> People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need at least five
> active PMC members at graduation time, so as to get three votes when
> needed, with some "spares". Mentors staying on board can of course
> count in those five....
Thanks Marvin for digging this up, and yes I still agree with myself ;-)
The board might or might not object to graduation but regardless it
would IMO be much better to have at least one more PMC member,
otherwise the board might have to step in if the PMC becomes too
small, and it would most probably do so without much context about the
project which is far from ideal.
A simple solution to that is for at least one of the mentors to stay
on the new PMC, would one of them agree to do that? It doesn't mean
you have to be very active, but at least stay there just in case.
-Bertrand
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
Hi Roman, Alexander, Marcel;
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> * if anybody actually had prior examples of board raising it as an issue,
> I'd appreciate seeing pointers to the discussions
Here's current Board member Bertrand Delacretaz in 2012:
http://s.apache.org/1ze
http://markmail.org/message/tmrzxfpehvwv47jr
People come and go, so to be realistic I'd say you need at least five
active PMC members at graduation time, so as to get three votes when
needed, with some "spares". Mentors staying on board can of course
count in those five.
The whole thread provides more context.
See also this thread from January 2012 on Etch.
http://s.apache.org/3o6
http://markmail.org/message/5zcho5oqwq52kjnr
The Incubator decided to started graduating "small" podlings more aggressively
around that time.
I'll abstain from the vote on Celix as I usually do on votes for podlings I
haven't been involved with, but I think the concerns expressed by Bertrand and
others are important to consider.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> Apache Celix Project:
>>>>
>>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>>>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>>>>
>
> Four is a very small number for a PMC. I've commonly heard people argue that
> five should be the cutoff. If just two people move on, the project won't be
> able to make releases.
>
> My personal feeling is that small PMCs are OK when at least one member has
> been added during incubation (demonstrating openness) and when the project has
> been around for years with stable core personnel who are unlikely to
> disappear. But four is still really low, and it wouldn't surprise me if
> the Board objected.
Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
* in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage folks
to consider PMC == committers
* if anybody actually had prior examples of board raising it as an issue,
I'd appreciate seeing pointers to the discussions
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.eu>.
On 13 Jun 2014, at 17:32 pm, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> Apache Celix Project:
>>>>
>>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>>>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>>>>
>
> Four is a very small number for a PMC. I've commonly heard people argue that
> five should be the cutoff. If just two people move on, the project won't be
> able to make releases.
>
> My personal feeling is that small PMCs are OK when at least one member has
> been added during incubation (demonstrating openness) and when the project has
> been around for years with stable core personnel who are unlikely to
> disappear. But four is still really low, and it wouldn't surprise me if
> the Board objected.
Just for reference, so far these people have consistently contributed to the project over time. If the board simply considers the project too small, we will of course have to let the project stay in the incubator for some more time, but this is the first time I heard about such a requirement (PMC size >= 5).
Greetings, Marcel
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very
> robust community that is also slowly growing.
>
> Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for
> a general@ vote.
Hi Roman...
I was hoping that some of the other more seasoned IPMC members would step up
to comment on this, since you and I have a lot going on at the moment and
you're a Mentor for Celix. Ah well...
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>>> specification;
Scope statement looks good to me.
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>> Apache Celix Project:
>>>
>>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>>>
Four is a very small number for a PMC. I've commonly heard people argue that
five should be the cutoff. If just two people move on, the project won't be
able to make releases.
My personal feeling is that small PMCs are OK when at least one member has
been added during incubation (demonstrating openness) and when the project has
been around for years with stable core personnel who are unlikely to
disappear. But four is still really low, and it wouldn't surprise me if
the Board objected.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very
robust community that is also slowly growing.
Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for
a general@ vote.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Alexander Broekhuis
<a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello incubator folks,
>
> Can someone please take a look at this proposal?
>
>
> 2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working
>> towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and
>> new committers have been added.
>> Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation
>> have been ticked of [1].
>> This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2].
>> Also the namesearch has been performed [3].
>> As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is
>> ready for graduation.
>>
>> This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache
>> Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>>
>> Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues
>> as soon as possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Alexander Broekhuis
>> (PPMC member of Apache Celix)
>>
>> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
>> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud
>> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50
>> [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html
>>
>>
>> =========== Board Resolution ==========
>>
>> X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>> the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>> specification.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
>> specification;
>> and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>> responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache Celix Project:
>>
>> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
>> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
>> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
>> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>
>> --
>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>
>> Alexander Broekhuis
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
Hello incubator folks,
Can someone please take a look at this proposal?
2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working
> towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and
> new committers have been added.
> Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation
> have been ticked of [1].
> This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2].
> Also the namesearch has been performed [3].
> As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is
> ready for graduation.
>
> This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache
> Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>
> Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues
> as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
> (PPMC member of Apache Celix)
>
> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud
> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50
> [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html
>
>
> =========== Board Resolution ==========
>
> X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Celix Project:
>
> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
>
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Alexander Broekhuis
<a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>:
>
>> Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;)
>>
>> Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase!
>>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> This gives us enough PMC members to satisfy the board's need. Can I now
> start the vote for Celix graduation?
I'd say go ahead and lets hope for the best!
I really think you guys would make a great little TLP.
Thanks,
Roman.
>
> The updated proposal:
>
> =========== Board Resolution ==========
>
> X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Celix Project:
>
> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
> * Marcel Offermans <marrs@apache.org
> <ej...@apache.org>>
> * Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org
> <ej...@apache.org>>
> * Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org
> <ej...@apache.org>>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>:
> Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;)
>
> Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase!
>
Thanks!
This gives us enough PMC members to satisfy the board's need. Can I now
start the vote for Celix graduation?
The updated proposal:
=========== Board Resolution ==========
X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification;
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Celix Project:
* Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
* Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
* Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
* Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
* Marcel Offermans <marrs@apache.org
<ej...@apache.org>>
* Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org
<ej...@apache.org>>
* Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org
<ej...@apache.org>>
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Celix Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>.
Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;)
Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase!
Cos
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 08:35AM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote:
> 2014-06-16 21:43 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>:
>
> > I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I like the dynamics of it. I am
> > sure
> > the community will grow as the time goes. In my opinion, it worth moving it
> > into TLP. I will be happy to help the project moving forward if my help is
> > required.
> >
> > Cos
>
>
> Thanks for offering the help!
> With Marcel and Roman we do have enough members, but if you want to join,
> I'll gladly add you. Do you want to be added?
>
>
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Alexander Broekhuis <a....@gmail.com>.
2014-06-16 21:43 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>:
> I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I like the dynamics of it. I am
> sure
> the community will grow as the time goes. In my opinion, it worth moving it
> into TLP. I will be happy to help the project moving forward if my help is
> required.
>
> Cos
Thanks for offering the help!
With Marcel and Roman we do have enough members, but if you want to join,
I'll gladly add you. Do you want to be added?
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Alexander Broekhuis
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Posted by Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>.
I had an honor to shepherd Celix ones and I like the dynamics of it. I am sure
the community will grow as the time goes. In my opinion, it worth moving it
into TLP. I will be happy to help the project moving forward if my help is
required.
Cos
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 07:06AM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working
> towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and
> new committers have been added.
> Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation
> have been ticked of [1].
> This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2]. Also
> the namesearch has been performed [3].
> As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is
> ready for graduation.
>
> This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache
> Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email.
>
> Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues
> as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
> (PPMC member of Apache Celix)
>
> [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud
> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50
> [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html
>
>
> =========== Board Resolution ==========
>
> X. Establish the Apache Celix Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Celix Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a native implementation of the OSGi
> specification;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Celix" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Celix Project:
>
> * Alexander Broekhuis <ab...@apache.org>
> * Pepijn Noltes <pn...@apache.org>
> * Bjoern Petri <bp...@apache.org>
> * Erik Jansman <ej...@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Celix Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Alexander Broekhuis
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