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Posted to dev@kudu.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> on 2016/03/08 06:05:08 UTC
Website?
Dear kudu podling,
http://kudu.incubator.apache.org/
does not work as your domain. Instead if I go to
http://getkudu.io/
I seem to get your website. Do you plan to make both URLs work? In
addition, the incubator logo should be above the fold.
John
Re: Website?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Todd,
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Lipcon <to...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org" <de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:22 PM
To: "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org" <de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Website?
>On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Todd,
>>
>> It doesn’t matter what other podlings do. We should conform to the
>> branding guidelines today.
>>
>> They are at:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#introduction
>>
>>
>> We should do the right thing, today, and not wait.
>>
>
>Sure, but I don't see anything about displaying Apache logos being
>required
>on that document either. I don't have any specific problem with doing so,
>but I don't think it's a requirement based on either the documentation or
>the status quo (hence my showing the other podlings)
As we’ve discussed on and off-list many times, there are many things
not explicitly written down at the ASF. Your definition of requirement may
not meet mine, but hey you asked me to provide guidance and help mentor,
so here I am. If this is going to be an Apache project, why not plop the
Apache logo all over? As you mentioned, you don’t have a problem with
doing
so and frankly, it’s a nice thing to do if it’s an ASF project. In my
experience
we just should do that.
>
>
>>
>> Let’s set this as a goal to get done by next month’s report.
>>
>
>We'll absolutely prioritize the website move. I don't think we're set to
>report next month, though, right? We've done our initial three, and now I
>think we're on the quarterly rotation, unless I misunderstand the podling
>reporting schedule.
Agreed, strictly interpreting all requirements with respect to board
reporting, etc. I’m just saying though it would be great to get it done in
the next month, but then again I’ll either have to JFDI, produce someone
who can, or keep saying we should get it done. I realize we’re all limited
by resources and stuff here. We’ll get it done when it gets done, of
course.
Just keeping my lofty goals and also I find saying it makes me more likely
to do it so consider the above potentially an echo or task-list item
written
down for me.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Website?
Posted by Todd Lipcon <to...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Todd,
>
> It doesn’t matter what other podlings do. We should conform to the
> branding guidelines today.
>
> They are at:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#introduction
>
>
> We should do the right thing, today, and not wait.
>
Sure, but I don't see anything about displaying Apache logos being required
on that document either. I don't have any specific problem with doing so,
but I don't think it's a requirement based on either the documentation or
the status quo (hence my showing the other podlings)
>
> Let’s set this as a goal to get done by next month’s report.
>
We'll absolutely prioritize the website move. I don't think we're set to
report next month, though, right? We've done our initial three, and now I
think we're on the quarterly rotation, unless I misunderstand the podling
reporting schedule.
-Todd
Re: Website?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Todd,
It doesn’t matter what other podlings do. We should conform to the
branding guidelines today.
They are at:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#introduction
We should do the right thing, today, and not wait.
Let’s set this as a goal to get done by next month’s report.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Lipcon <to...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org" <de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:11 PM
To: "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org" <de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Website?
>Hi John,
>
>Moving the website is definitely on our short list of priorities coming
>up.
>We haven't quite figured out the infrastructure necessary to switch from
>our github-pages based flow to using svnpubsub, etc. Please bear with us
>on
>that.
>
>Where is the policy that the incubator logo should be above the fold? The
>branding guide just says that web sites "SHOULD" display the incubator
>logo
>(in contrast to MUST) and doesn't say anything about how prominent it
>should be. I'm not against putting it above the fold, but not sure the
>best
>way to make it look nice. Other podlings also seem to have it at the
>bottom
>of the page:
>
>http://asterixdb.incubator.apache.org/
>http://datafu.incubator.apache.org/
>http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/
>http://geode.incubator.apache.org/
>... etc
>
>or not at all:
>
>http://incubator.apache.org/blur/
>http://freemarker.incubator.apache.org/
>... etc
>
>(just visited the top 10 or so podling sites)
>
>-Todd
>
>
>On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>
>> Dear kudu podling,
>>
>> http://kudu.incubator.apache.org/
>>
>> does not work as your domain. Instead if I go to
>>
>> http://getkudu.io/
>>
>> I seem to get your website. Do you plan to make both URLs work? In
>> addition, the incubator logo should be above the fold.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
Re: Website?
Posted by Todd Lipcon <to...@apache.org>.
Hi John,
Moving the website is definitely on our short list of priorities coming up.
We haven't quite figured out the infrastructure necessary to switch from
our github-pages based flow to using svnpubsub, etc. Please bear with us on
that.
Where is the policy that the incubator logo should be above the fold? The
branding guide just says that web sites "SHOULD" display the incubator logo
(in contrast to MUST) and doesn't say anything about how prominent it
should be. I'm not against putting it above the fold, but not sure the best
way to make it look nice. Other podlings also seem to have it at the bottom
of the page:
http://asterixdb.incubator.apache.org/
http://datafu.incubator.apache.org/
http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/
http://geode.incubator.apache.org/
... etc
or not at all:
http://incubator.apache.org/blur/
http://freemarker.incubator.apache.org/
... etc
(just visited the top 10 or so podling sites)
-Todd
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear kudu podling,
>
> http://kudu.incubator.apache.org/
>
> does not work as your domain. Instead if I go to
>
> http://getkudu.io/
>
> I seem to get your website. Do you plan to make both URLs work? In
> addition, the incubator logo should be above the fold.
>
> John
>
>
Re: Website?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Agreed, thanks Todd.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org" <de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 10:22 AM
To: Todd Lipcon <to...@cloudera.com>, "dev@kudu.incubator.apache.org"
<de...@kudu.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Website?
>On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:14 PM Todd Lipcon <to...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:41 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm responding to my own message as I'm not subscribed to your dev
>>>list.
>>>
>>
>> Oops, adding you on the reply this time.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It turns out that the logo placement isn't required, so apologies on
>>>that.
>>> The podling specific branding requirements can be found at:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html And I agree with
>>>Chris,
>>> do as the guides say not how other podlings do it.
>>
>>
>> Right -- I was trying to follow the guides (which didn't mention the
>>logo)
>> and then figured I'd look at the other podlings to see if this was a 'de
>> facto' policy instead of a 'de jure' policy. I can hear my mom in the
>>back
>> of my head saying "if your friends jumped off a bridge, would you???" :)
>>
>>
>>> If you don't mind, I
>>> feel compelled to include a note about your websites in the IPMC's
>>>board
>>> report this month.
>>>
>>
>> Sure, no problem at all. I also just filed INFRA-11407 to get the
>>process
>> kick-started.
>>
>>
>Perfect, thanks!
>
>
>> -Todd
>>
Re: Website?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:14 PM Todd Lipcon <to...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:41 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm responding to my own message as I'm not subscribed to your dev list.
>>
>
> Oops, adding you on the reply this time.
>
>
>>
>> It turns out that the logo placement isn't required, so apologies on that.
>> The podling specific branding requirements can be found at:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html And I agree with Chris,
>> do as the guides say not how other podlings do it.
>
>
> Right -- I was trying to follow the guides (which didn't mention the logo)
> and then figured I'd look at the other podlings to see if this was a 'de
> facto' policy instead of a 'de jure' policy. I can hear my mom in the back
> of my head saying "if your friends jumped off a bridge, would you???" :)
>
>
>> If you don't mind, I
>> feel compelled to include a note about your websites in the IPMC's board
>> report this month.
>>
>
> Sure, no problem at all. I also just filed INFRA-11407 to get the process
> kick-started.
>
>
Perfect, thanks!
> -Todd
>
Re: Website?
Posted by Todd Lipcon <to...@cloudera.com>.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:41 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm responding to my own message as I'm not subscribed to your dev list.
>
Oops, adding you on the reply this time.
>
> It turns out that the logo placement isn't required, so apologies on that.
> The podling specific branding requirements can be found at:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html And I agree with Chris,
> do as the guides say not how other podlings do it.
Right -- I was trying to follow the guides (which didn't mention the logo)
and then figured I'd look at the other podlings to see if this was a 'de
facto' policy instead of a 'de jure' policy. I can hear my mom in the back
of my head saying "if your friends jumped off a bridge, would you???" :)
> If you don't mind, I
> feel compelled to include a note about your websites in the IPMC's board
> report this month.
>
Sure, no problem at all. I also just filed INFRA-11407 to get the process
kick-started.
-Todd
Re: Website?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
I'm responding to my own message as I'm not subscribed to your dev list.
It turns out that the logo placement isn't required, so apologies on that.
The podling specific branding requirements can be found at:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html And I agree with Chris,
do as the guides say not how other podlings do it. If you don't mind, I
feel compelled to include a note about your websites in the IPMC's board
report this month.
You shouldn't need to convert your website into anything to get it hosted
on our infrastructure. ASF Infra have been trying to work with tools like
Jekyll and a gitpubsub model, so you may want to inquiry with Infra about
enabling those tools.
John
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:05 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear kudu podling,
>
> http://kudu.incubator.apache.org/
>
> does not work as your domain. Instead if I go to
>
> http://getkudu.io/
>
> I seem to get your website. Do you plan to make both URLs work? In
> addition, the incubator logo should be above the fold.
>
> John
>