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[D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

GitHub user justinestruch created a discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

Hello I am wondering if there is a way to prevent instances from stealing or using IP addresses that are not assigned to the instance by cloudstack? For example, I tested by creating a new shared network with Public ips in the 1.1.1.x/24 range. I then created an instance and assigned it to this network. The instance was assigned 1.1.1.5. Then on the instance I manually assigned 1.1.1.6 and this worked fine. 

I'm looking for a way to stop this with some sort of arp watch or ip source guard. This is a major concern as customers could steal each other's public IPs which is not good. I'm using Cloudstack 4.20.1 with Vmware Vcenter and esxi 8.0U3. Thanks.

GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "kiranchavala (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user kiranchavala added a comment to the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

@justinestruch i think this is beyond cloudstack control  as it user driven operation 


There is a quarantine feature in Cloudstack, if you are interested to block certain public ip address 

https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/7369
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/7378

GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371#discussioncomment-13955592

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "justinestruch (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user justinestruch closed a discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

Hello I am wondering if there is a way to prevent instances from stealing or using IP addresses that are not assigned to the instance by cloudstack? For example, I tested by creating a new shared network with Public ips in the 1.1.1.x/24 range. I then created an instance and assigned it to this network. The instance was assigned 1.1.1.5. Then on the instance I manually assigned 1.1.1.6 and this worked fine. 

I'm looking for a way to stop this with some sort of arp watch or ip source guard. This is a major concern as customers could steal each other's public IPs which is not good. I'm using Cloudstack 4.20.1 with Vmware Vcenter and esxi 8.0U3. Thanks.

GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "rajujith (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user rajujith added a comment to the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

@justinestruch  If you use a shared network security group, anti-IP spoofing is a standard feature, but you need to use KVM. 


GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371#discussioncomment-13956690

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "justinestruch (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user justinestruch added a comment to the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

Hi @rajujith thank you the anti Ip spoofing with security groups looks to be exactly what I was looking for. Too bad it doesn't work with VMware. I'll keep researching but I don't think ESXI has this feature natively unless you use NSX which we are not.

GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371#discussioncomment-13961979

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "rajujith (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user rajujith edited a comment on the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

@justinestruch  If you use a shared network & security group, anti-IP spoofing is a standard feature, but you need to use KVM. 

https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.20.1.0/adminguide/networking/security_groups.html , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU1b7x2HO_E


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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "rajujith (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user rajujith edited a comment on the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

@justinestruch  If you use a shared network & security group, anti-IP spoofing is a standard feature, but you need to use KVM. 


GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371#discussioncomment-13956690

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Re: [D] Prevent IP Address Stealing [cloudstack]

Posted by "justinestruch (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
GitHub user justinestruch added a comment to the discussion: Prevent IP Address Stealing

Hi @kiranchavala thanks for this but I'm looking more for a feature that @rajujith mentioned.

GitHub link: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/11371#discussioncomment-13961969

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