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Posted to user@roller.apache.org by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> on 2013/12/01 17:11:19 UTC
Re: meta tags, description and keyword missing
(switching to user@...)
Hi Gaurav, you need to alter your header template to include the search
description field ( $entry.searchDescription, as listed in the Roller
template guide.) We do not do that by default, partly out of concern
that someone might put sensitive information in that field and not
realize that it's appearing in the (invisible from the browser) header
of every HTML page. (Perhaps however, we should modify the templates to
do that anyway, I'm not sure how serious/common a concern that would be.)
Something like this should work for you: <meta name="Description"
content="${entry.searchDescription}">
Glen
On 12/01/2013 10:52 AM, Gaurav wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I checked the search description and have entered some text, but it
> did not still show up in meta description. Although, if we can get the
> value in head.vm than we can add meta description line. I tired adding
> $tag.name in head.vm for keywords and also $entry.summary but did not
> get the desired value in this file.
>
> Thanks
> Gaurav
>
> On Saturday 30 November 2013 04:27 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>> Description (what we call "Search Description") is in 5.1-SNAPSHOT
>> (not earlier versions), check the "Advanced" section on the blog
>> entry edit page. Keywords are old-fashioned and as I understand
>> pretty much ignored today.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 11/29/2013 10:30 PM, Gaurav Saini wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Did not got reply to this, might be the post has been skiped !!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Gaurav
>>> On Nov 25, 2013 4:54 PM, "Gaurav" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I recently checked the template of roller did not have dynamic meta
>>>> tags
>>>> like description, keywords. It although have title tag which is
>>>> dynamic
>>>> according to the page we are on. But no keywords and meta-description.
>>>> Although Various other blogging platform also do not use this, as many
>>>> search engines did not use keywords for ranking, as people misused
>>>> this tag
>>>> in past easily.
>>>>
>>>> But, one thing we can do, which can stand from other blogging
>>>> platform is
>>>> we can use blog summary first 100 words as the meta description.
>>>> And the
>>>> same we can use the tags as meta keywords for the header. Want some
>>>> ideas,
>>>> Is we can do something for this ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> *Gaurav Saini*
>>>> *Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech*
>>>> *Viithiisys Technologies*
>>>> *Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>,
>>>> gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com <ga...@viithiisys.com>*
>>>> *Mobile: +91-9915346686 <%2B91-9915346686>*
>>>>
>>
>
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Dave <sn...@gmail.com>.
Very strange indeed. I restarted my server and now
http://rollerweblogger.org/project/ is rendering just fine. I suspect there
may be some sort of "leak" or other issue with the JSPWiki plugin that
caused the rendering problem. I'll keep an eye out for further troubles.
- Dave
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Dave <sn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>
>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having its
>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem is, I
>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>
>
> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller project
> blog last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
> JSPWiki plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>
> - Dave
>
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
My mistake -- $model.weblog.description maps to the "tagline" field on
the weblog settings page, while I was populating the "About your blog"
field (which maps to $model.weblog.about.)
Glen
On 12/02/2013 07:19 AM, Gaurav wrote:
> Hello Glen,
>
> Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works
> perfectly fine in head.vm
> Although, Is there any specific reason that why
> "$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this work
> fine in entry.vm ?
>
> Thanks
> Gaurav
>
>
> On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>> OK, looking at the JIRA item:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to
>> be used:
>>
>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>>
>> This is what I have added in my header template.
>>
>> #if ($model.permalink == false)
>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
>> #else
>> <meta name="Description"
>> content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>> #end
>>
>> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
>> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
>> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
>> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for
>> Google hits to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the
>> individual entry's searchDescription is used. Right now for some
>> reason I can't get "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least
>> "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" is working.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Glen
>>
>> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the
>>> $entry
>>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>>
>>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>>> .....
>>> #end
>>>
>>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>>> without changing the logic some what.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>>
>>> Cheers Greg.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/,
>>>>>>> that was
>>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the
>>>>>>> problem is, I
>>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>> blog
>>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>
>
New #showMetaDescription() macro
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
Hi all, I just put a new #showMetaDescription() Velocity macro into
5.1-SNAPSHOT that will work for both single-blog-entry and whole-blog URLs:
+#**
+Adds a meta description tag, suitable for use in HTML header sections.
This tag is frequently used by
+search engines to provide a short description for links returned. The
description value will set to the
+weblog's tagline if on a multiple blog entry page or the weblog entry
search description if on a single
+blog entry (permalink) page. If the relevant description value has not
been configured no meta tag
+will be created.
+*#
+#macro(showMetaDescription)
+ #if ($model.permalink)
+ #if ($utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblogEntry.searchDescription))
+ <meta name="description"
content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
+ #end
+ #elseif ($utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblog.description))
+ <meta name="description" content="$model.weblog.description">
+ #end
+#end
The templates that Roller comes packaged with are now using this macro.
Regards,
Glen
On 12/02/2013 07:42 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
> Gaurav,
>
> $model.weblog.description should work anywhere, make sure its set on the
> <settings> Tagline field.
>
> Also $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription is not manditory so its best to
> check for null otherwise it will print
> $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription in its place:
>
> $utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblogEntry.searchDescription)
> ..
> #end
>
> Suppress field by quite notation : $!model.weblogEntry.searchDescription
>
> Cheers Greg.
>
>
>
> On 2 December 2013 12:19, Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Glen,
>>
>> Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works perfectly
>> fine in head.vm
>> Although, Is there any specific reason that why
>> "$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this work fine
>> in entry.vm ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gaurav
>>
>>
>> On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>
>>> OK, looking at the JIRA item: https://issues.apache.org/
>>> jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to be used:
>>>
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>>>
>>> This is what I have added in my header template.
>>>
>>> #if ($model.permalink == false)
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
>>> #else
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.
>>> searchDescription">
>>> #end
>>>
>>> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
>>> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
>>> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
>>> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for Google hits
>>> to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the individual entry's
>>> searchDescription is used. Right now for some reason I can't get
>>> "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription"
>>> is working.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glen,
>>>>
>>>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the $entry
>>>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>>>
>>>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>>>> .....
>>>> #end
>>>>
>>>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>>>> without changing the logic some what.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>>>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Greg.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem
>>>>>>>> is, I
>>>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> *Gaurav Saini*
>> /Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
>> /Viithiisys Technologies/
>> /Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
>> /Mobile: +91-9915346686/
>>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the info Greg. My inclination at this stage is to update the
templates to incorporate the below so each new user won't have to go
through the headache of figuring this out--any objections? Google
Blogger itself has a search description field
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549069/BloggerCurrent.png)
that automatically goes in the HTML header, so probably OK for us to do
so as well.
Glen
On 12/02/2013 08:38 AM, Gaurav wrote:
> Hello Greg,
>
> Thanks Greg, "$utils.isNotEmpty" solved many of my previous problems
> also. Really I have to go through the templating guide thoroughly, so
> I did not miss this tags, as these are very useful, in customizing the
> templates.
>
> Thanks
> Gaurav
>
> On Monday 02 December 2013 06:12 PM, Greg Huber wrote:
>> Gaurav,
>>
>> $model.weblog.description should work anywhere, make sure its set on the
>> <settings> Tagline field.
>>
>> Also $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription is not manditory so its
>> best to
>> check for null otherwise it will print
>> $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription in its place:
>>
>> $utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblogEntry.searchDescription)
>> ..
>> #end
>>
>> Suppress field by quite notation : $!model.weblogEntry.searchDescription
>>
>> Cheers Greg.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 December 2013 12:19, Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Glen,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works
>>> perfectly
>>> fine in head.vm
>>> Although, Is there any specific reason that why
>>> "$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this
>>> work fine
>>> in entry.vm ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Gaurav
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, looking at the JIRA item: https://issues.apache.org/
>>>> jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to be used:
>>>>
>>>> <meta name="Description"
>>>> content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>>>>
>>>> This is what I have added in my header template.
>>>>
>>>> #if ($model.permalink == false)
>>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
>>>> #else
>>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.
>>>> searchDescription">
>>>> #end
>>>>
>>>> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
>>>> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
>>>> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
>>>> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for
>>>> Google hits
>>>> to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the individual
>>>> entry's
>>>> searchDescription is used. Right now for some reason I can't get
>>>> "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least
>>>> "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription"
>>>> is working.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glen,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the
>>>>> $entry
>>>>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>>>>
>>>>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>>>>> .....
>>>>> #end
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>>>>> without changing the logic some what.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>>>>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers Greg.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that
>>>>>> be it?
>>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza
>>>>>>> <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the
>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> is, I
>>>>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> *Gaurav Saini*
>>> /Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
>>> /Viithiisys Technologies/
>>> /Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
>>> /Mobile: +91-9915346686/
>>>
>
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hello Greg,
Thanks Greg, "$utils.isNotEmpty" solved many of my previous problems
also. Really I have to go through the templating guide thoroughly, so I
did not miss this tags, as these are very useful, in customizing the
templates.
Thanks
Gaurav
On Monday 02 December 2013 06:12 PM, Greg Huber wrote:
> Gaurav,
>
> $model.weblog.description should work anywhere, make sure its set on the
> <settings> Tagline field.
>
> Also $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription is not manditory so its best to
> check for null otherwise it will print
> $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription in its place:
>
> $utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblogEntry.searchDescription)
> ..
> #end
>
> Suppress field by quite notation : $!model.weblogEntry.searchDescription
>
> Cheers Greg.
>
>
>
> On 2 December 2013 12:19, Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Glen,
>>
>> Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works perfectly
>> fine in head.vm
>> Although, Is there any specific reason that why
>> "$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this work fine
>> in entry.vm ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gaurav
>>
>>
>> On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>
>>> OK, looking at the JIRA item: https://issues.apache.org/
>>> jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to be used:
>>>
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>>>
>>> This is what I have added in my header template.
>>>
>>> #if ($model.permalink == false)
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
>>> #else
>>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.
>>> searchDescription">
>>> #end
>>>
>>> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
>>> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
>>> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
>>> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for Google hits
>>> to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the individual entry's
>>> searchDescription is used. Right now for some reason I can't get
>>> "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription"
>>> is working.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glen,
>>>>
>>>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the $entry
>>>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>>>
>>>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>>>> .....
>>>> #end
>>>>
>>>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>>>> without changing the logic some what.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>>>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Greg.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>>>> Glen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem
>>>>>>>> is, I
>>>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> *Gaurav Saini*
>> /Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
>> /Viithiisys Technologies/
>> /Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
>> /Mobile: +91-9915346686/
>>
--
Regards,
*Gaurav Saini*
/Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
/Viithiisys Technologies/
/Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
/Mobile: +91-9915346686/
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Greg Huber <gr...@gmail.com>.
Gaurav,
$model.weblog.description should work anywhere, make sure its set on the
<settings> Tagline field.
Also $model.weblogEntry.searchDescription is not manditory so its best to
check for null otherwise it will print
$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription in its place:
$utils.isNotEmpty($model.weblogEntry.searchDescription)
..
#end
Suppress field by quite notation : $!model.weblogEntry.searchDescription
Cheers Greg.
On 2 December 2013 12:19, Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Glen,
>
> Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works perfectly
> fine in head.vm
> Although, Is there any specific reason that why
> "$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this work fine
> in entry.vm ?
>
> Thanks
> Gaurav
>
>
> On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>
>> OK, looking at the JIRA item: https://issues.apache.org/
>> jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to be used:
>>
>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>>
>> This is what I have added in my header template.
>>
>> #if ($model.permalink == false)
>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
>> #else
>> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.
>> searchDescription">
>> #end
>>
>> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
>> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
>> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
>> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for Google hits
>> to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the individual entry's
>> searchDescription is used. Right now for some reason I can't get
>> "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription"
>> is working.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Glen
>>
>> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>>
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the $entry
>>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>>
>>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>>> .....
>>> #end
>>>
>>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>>> without changing the logic some what.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>>
>>> Cheers Greg.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem
>>>>>>> is, I
>>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> blog
>>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>
> --
> Regards,
> *Gaurav Saini*
> /Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
> /Viithiisys Technologies/
> /Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
> /Mobile: +91-9915346686/
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hello Glen,
Thanks a lot, "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" this works
perfectly fine in head.vm
Although, Is there any specific reason that why
"$model.weblog.description" not working in head.vm only, As this work
fine in entry.vm ?
Thanks
Gaurav
On Monday 02 December 2013 05:26 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> OK, looking at the JIRA item:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to
> be used:
>
> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
>
> This is what I have added in my header template.
>
> #if ($model.permalink == false)
> <meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
> #else
> <meta name="Description"
> content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
> #end
>
> The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
> once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
> description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
> second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for Google
> hits to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the
> individual entry's searchDescription is used. Right now for some
> reason I can't get "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least
> "$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" is working.
>
> HTH,
> Glen
>
> On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
>> Glen,
>>
>> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the
>> $entry
>> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>>
>> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
>> .....
>> #end
>>
>> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
>> without changing the logic some what.
>>
>>
>> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
>> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>>
>> Cheers Greg.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the
>>>>>> problem is, I
>>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>>>>>> project
>>>>> blog
>>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>>> JSPWiki
>>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
--
Regards,
*Gaurav Saini*
/Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
/Viithiisys Technologies/
/Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
/Mobile: +91-9915346686/
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
OK, looking at the JIRA item:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ROL-1947, this is what needs to be
used:
<meta name="Description" content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
This is what I have added in my header template.
#if ($model.permalink == false)
<meta name="Description" content="$model.weblog.description">
#else
<meta name="Description"
content="$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription">
#end
The upper one is for when the page is showing several blog entries at
once (such as being on the blog home page), in that case the blog
description as given on the Preferences | Settings page is used. The
second one is for when a single blog entry is shown (common for Google
hits to go directly to a single blog entry), in this case the individual
entry's searchDescription is used. Right now for some reason I can't
get "$model.weblog.description" to work but at least
"$model.weblogEntry.searchDescription" is working.
HTH,
Glen
On 12/02/2013 05:27 AM, Greg Huber wrote:
> Glen,
>
> You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the $entry
> refers to the current weblog item iteration:
>
> #foreach( $entry in $entries )
> .....
> #end
>
> I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
> without changing the logic some what.
>
>
> I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
> $entry.searchDescription works as expected.
>
> Cheers Greg.
>
>
>
> On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having
>>>>> its
>>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
>>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem is, I
>>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller project
>>>> blog
>>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>>> JSPWiki
>>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Greg Huber <gr...@gmail.com>.
Glen,
You can only use the $entry when you are in a #foreach loop as the $entry
refers to the current weblog item iteration:
#foreach( $entry in $entries )
.....
#end
I do not think you can easily use blog entries in the <head> section
without changing the logic some what.
I have checked the code and within #foreach( $entry in $entries ) the
$entry.searchDescription works as expected.
Cheers Greg.
On 1 December 2013 17:53, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
>
> Glen
>
> On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>
>> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>>
>>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having
>>>> its
>>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
>>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem is, I
>>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller project
>>> blog
>>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>>> JSPWiki
>>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
Actually, I don't see how that can have anything to do with it.
Glen
On 12/01/2013 12:43 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
>
> Glen
>
> On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>>
>>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer
>>> having its
>>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
>>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem
>>> is, I
>>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>>
>> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller
>> project blog
>> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the
>> JSPWiki
>> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
BTW, JSPWiki upgraded to Lucene 4.6 a few days ago, could that be it?
Glen
On 12/01/2013 12:24 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>>
>> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having its
>> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
>> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem is, I
>> don't think I was working in this area.
>>
> Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller project blog
> last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the JSPWiki
> plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
>
> - Dave
>
Re: All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and
keyword missing)
Posted by Dave <sn...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> (on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
>
> Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer having its
> blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/, that was
> working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the problem is, I
> don't think I was working in this area.
>
Very strange. I *know* that I checked and rechecked the Roller project blog
last week after the upgrade because I had to do so much work on the JSPWiki
plugin to get the project blog to render correctly.
- Dave
All heck is breaking loose... (Re: meta tags, description and keyword
missing)
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
(on second thought, switching back to dev@... :)
Well, it *is* used in Google searching for the blog entry, for SEO. I
thought about just using "Description" (this was my first patch to the
Roller project before becoming a committer) but was afraid that the user
might think of it as a hidden entry/comment field for the blog article
("Mary, see if you can get Bob in marketing to blog something good about
this crappy product we're selling...", etc.), not realizing that that
text ends up going into the HTML header. Further, it's not *exactly*
the meta Description text, you have to code it in the header template to
tie the two together, and this field can go into other META tags related
to search descriptions (I think there's one more--I can't find it right
now though.)
I'm getting the same problem on my 5.1 blog you are adding it to the
header.vm, I don't know why it's not resolving right now, it *was*
working. Also, the Roller blog itself which is on SNAPSHOT is no longer
having its blog articles expanded: http://rollerweblogger.org/project/,
that was working fine just a week or so ago. I'm not sure what the
problem is, I don't think I was working in this area.
Glen
On 12/01/2013 11:30 AM, Gaurav wrote:
> Hell Glen,
>
> I have tried this also, but in the browser it did not place value of
> this (${entry.searchDescription}) rather than just display same as
> plain text. The same problem which I mentioned before also. But when I
> use this in day.vm it gave correct value to description through this.
>
> Also, as you said user might add sensitive information, we can rather
> can tell user in advanced setting tab that its meta-description. As I
> did not see any use of that searchDescription in the theme. I am not
> sure if it is used in search of the blog !!!
>
> Thanks
> Gaurav
>
> On Sunday 01 December 2013 09:41 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>> (switching to user@...)
>>
>> Hi Gaurav, you need to alter your header template to include the
>> search description field ( $entry.searchDescription, as listed in the
>> Roller template guide.) We do not do that by default, partly out of
>> concern that someone might put sensitive information in that field
>> and not realize that it's appearing in the (invisible from the
>> browser) header of every HTML page. (Perhaps however, we should
>> modify the templates to do that anyway, I'm not sure how
>> serious/common a concern that would be.)
>>
>> Something like this should work for you: <meta name="Description"
>> content="${entry.searchDescription}">
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 12/01/2013 10:52 AM, Gaurav wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I checked the search description and have entered some text, but it
>>> did not still show up in meta description. Although, if we can get
>>> the value in head.vm than we can add meta description line. I tired
>>> adding $tag.name in head.vm for keywords and also $entry.summary but
>>> did not get the desired value in this file.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Gaurav
>>>
>>> On Saturday 30 November 2013 04:27 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>>> Description (what we call "Search Description") is in 5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>> (not earlier versions), check the "Advanced" section on the blog
>>>> entry edit page. Keywords are old-fashioned and as I understand
>>>> pretty much ignored today.
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On 11/29/2013 10:30 PM, Gaurav Saini wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did not got reply to this, might be the post has been skiped !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Gaurav
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2013 4:54 PM, "Gaurav" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently checked the template of roller did not have dynamic
>>>>>> meta tags
>>>>>> like description, keywords. It although have title tag which is
>>>>>> dynamic
>>>>>> according to the page we are on. But no keywords and
>>>>>> meta-description.
>>>>>> Although Various other blogging platform also do not use this, as
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> search engines did not use keywords for ranking, as people
>>>>>> misused this tag
>>>>>> in past easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, one thing we can do, which can stand from other blogging
>>>>>> platform is
>>>>>> we can use blog summary first 100 words as the meta description.
>>>>>> And the
>>>>>> same we can use the tags as meta keywords for the header. Want
>>>>>> some ideas,
>>>>>> Is we can do something for this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> *Gaurav Saini*
>>>>>> *Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech*
>>>>>> *Viithiisys Technologies*
>>>>>> *Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com <ga...@viithiisys.com>*
>>>>>> *Mobile: +91-9915346686 <%2B91-9915346686>*
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: meta tags, description and keyword missing
Posted by Gaurav <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hell Glen,
I have tried this also, but in the browser it did not place value of
this (${entry.searchDescription}) rather than just display same as plain
text. The same problem which I mentioned before also. But when I use
this in day.vm it gave correct value to description through this.
Also, as you said user might add sensitive information, we can rather
can tell user in advanced setting tab that its meta-description. As I
did not see any use of that searchDescription in the theme. I am not
sure if it is used in search of the blog !!!
Thanks
Gaurav
On Sunday 01 December 2013 09:41 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> (switching to user@...)
>
> Hi Gaurav, you need to alter your header template to include the
> search description field ( $entry.searchDescription, as listed in the
> Roller template guide.) We do not do that by default, partly out of
> concern that someone might put sensitive information in that field and
> not realize that it's appearing in the (invisible from the browser)
> header of every HTML page. (Perhaps however, we should modify the
> templates to do that anyway, I'm not sure how serious/common a concern
> that would be.)
>
> Something like this should work for you: <meta name="Description"
> content="${entry.searchDescription}">
>
> Glen
>
> On 12/01/2013 10:52 AM, Gaurav wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I checked the search description and have entered some text, but it
>> did not still show up in meta description. Although, if we can get
>> the value in head.vm than we can add meta description line. I tired
>> adding $tag.name in head.vm for keywords and also $entry.summary but
>> did not get the desired value in this file.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gaurav
>>
>> On Saturday 30 November 2013 04:27 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>> Description (what we call "Search Description") is in 5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>> (not earlier versions), check the "Advanced" section on the blog
>>> entry edit page. Keywords are old-fashioned and as I understand
>>> pretty much ignored today.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 11/29/2013 10:30 PM, Gaurav Saini wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Did not got reply to this, might be the post has been skiped !!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Gaurav
>>>> On Nov 25, 2013 4:54 PM, "Gaurav" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently checked the template of roller did not have dynamic
>>>>> meta tags
>>>>> like description, keywords. It although have title tag which is
>>>>> dynamic
>>>>> according to the page we are on. But no keywords and
>>>>> meta-description.
>>>>> Although Various other blogging platform also do not use this, as
>>>>> many
>>>>> search engines did not use keywords for ranking, as people misused
>>>>> this tag
>>>>> in past easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, one thing we can do, which can stand from other blogging
>>>>> platform is
>>>>> we can use blog summary first 100 words as the meta description.
>>>>> And the
>>>>> same we can use the tags as meta keywords for the header. Want
>>>>> some ideas,
>>>>> Is we can do something for this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> *Gaurav Saini*
>>>>> *Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech*
>>>>> *Viithiisys Technologies*
>>>>> *Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>,
>>>>> gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com <ga...@viithiisys.com>*
>>>>> *Mobile: +91-9915346686 <%2B91-9915346686>*
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Regards,
*Gaurav Saini*
/Developer, Digital Marketing and Pursuing B.Tech/
/Viithiisys Technologies/
/Email: gauravsaini03@gmail.com, gaurav.saini@viithiisys.com/
/Mobile: +91-9915346686/