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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org> on 2011/04/06 10:12:40 UTC

low gsoc popularity this year?

I don't know how it has been in the last years, but until now we only have 32 proposals. There are
still two days left but I doubt that we will see significantly more. Any ideas what (if any) might
be wrong and what we could do?

Uli

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 06/04/2011 09:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> I don't know how it has been in the last years, but until now we only have 32 proposals. There are
> still two days left but I doubt that we will see significantly more. Any ideas what (if any) might
> be wrong and what we could do?

32 is very low. I've seen a few comments on the GSoC mentors list 
observing applications are down.

One reason, in my opinion, is this new interface for the webapp is a 
joke. It is really hard to find the the opportunities available.

Another reason might be that we are now listed under "The" rather than 
"Apache", the old system used to ignore the "The"

A final reason, as you say, is roughly double the number of orgs, but 
I'd expect that to half the proposals not decimate them.

There is usually a fair number in the last few days, at least it means 
alot less work for the admins ;-)

Ross

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Kathey Marsden
<km...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 4/6/2011 1:40 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
>>
>> May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
>> in next time.  Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.
>>
> In the small factors category, in Derby project we have something of a
> shortage of mentors this year, which I think is reducing the number of
> applications.  I am hoping we will get at least one more coming in from a
> student that has been active and has said  he wants to apply.
>
> The reduced number of mentors, I think,  is just mostly  because of vacation
> conflicts.
>
> Kathey
>
>
>

Tuscany is also facing shortage of mentors, but the number of students
is about the same of last year.


-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 15/04/2011 18:57, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> On 4/6/2011 7:01 AM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>> On 4/6/2011 1:40 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
>>> May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
>>> in next time. Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.
>>>
>>
> One thing that occurred to me on this topic as I was looking at the
> scoring of the two very good proposals we got this year for Derby is
> that one thing that changed is that I think we probably filtered out
> quite a few less serious applicants at the community level by making it
> clear what the expectations are. In prior years I think we got at least
> a few proposals from people that had not yet contributed or ramped up on
> the project and some I can recall that were not much more than just a
> cut and paste of the abstract. I think it is fine that noise is gone. It
> was not a good use of the student's time to submit them or the mentor's
> time to sift through them.


Yes, this is a good point. This year is the first time we've pointed at 
community.apache.org, on there it makes it clear that we expect a high 
standard of student.

Interestingly, it looks like we will be able to field as many students 
as we did in previous years. So absolute values may have gone down but 
quality proposals don't seem to have reduced.

Ross

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 4/6/2011 7:01 AM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> On 4/6/2011 1:40 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
>> May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
>> in next time.  Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.
>>
>
One thing that occurred to me on this topic as I was looking at the 
scoring of the two very good proposals we got this year for Derby is 
that one thing that changed is that I think we probably filtered out  
quite a few less serious applicants at the community level by making it 
clear what the expectations are.  In prior years I think we got at least 
a few proposals from people that had not yet contributed or ramped up on 
the project and some I can recall that were not much more than just a 
cut and paste  of the abstract.  I think it is fine that noise is gone.  
It was not a good use of the student's time to submit them  or the 
mentor's time to sift through them.







Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by ejaj on resurgence <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ross,
thanks for your invaluable info,well i m beginning to work on it and m
researching on it too.
Now, if you give any link of the so far reported problems, I'd be
rather satisfied.
thanks..

On 4/6/11, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 06/04/2011 17:44, ejaj on resurgence wrote:
>> Hi,
>> i m researching for webapp manager for tuscany and m going to apply
>> for that. Referencing to one of the post , it says its a joke.
>> I just wanna ask if this infeasible at all and if there is any thing i
>> could step up to work with.
>
> It does work, some people have applied. But I've seen lots of people
> reporting problems finding things.
>
> It's just a question of looking hard.
>
> I don't think there are any complications with the actual application
> process so if you have found your project, engaged with the mentors and
> done your prep work you should be just fine.
>
> Ross
>
>> thanks..
>>
>> On 4/6/11, Zhijie Shen<zj...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> I'm a student that will apply GSoC'11 with Apache. From the perspective
>>> of a
>>> student, I think one reason is that the idea list of Apache projects is
>>> released a bit late. In fact, a number of other organizations released
>>> the
>>> idea list long time before the organization application deadline. Hence
>>> some
>>> of students who are not patient enough tend to apply with these early
>>> organizations. Just my personal feeling :-)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik
>>> <an...@objectstyle.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Sean Owen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me?
>>>>
>>>> My experience with GSoC included successes, failures, and outcomes
>>>> somewhere in the middle (e.g. a project was delivered, but we never
>>>> integrated it in the codebase, and it was left to rot in the repo). Our
>>>> conclusion was that the type of task you post for your students to do
>>>> plays
>>>> a very important role in this (the last discussion on that is here:
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/qg2ovoiwtcp3eji5 ). Most of the applying
>>>> students are not already active hackers on a project, so giving them
>>>> tasks
>>>> requiring massive changes to the sensitive areas of the code is one
>>>> recipe
>>>> for disaster, and there are more...
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zhijie Shen
>>> School of Computing
>>> National University of Singapore
>>> <http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/%7Ez-shen/>
>>>
>
>
> --
> rgardler@apache.org
> @rgardler
>

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 06/04/2011 17:44, ejaj on resurgence wrote:
> Hi,
> i m researching for webapp manager for tuscany and m going to apply
> for that. Referencing to one of the post , it says its a joke.
> I just wanna ask if this infeasible at all and if there is any thing i
> could step up to work with.

It does work, some people have applied. But I've seen lots of people 
reporting problems finding things.

It's just a question of looking hard.

I don't think there are any complications with the actual application 
process so if you have found your project, engaged with the mentors and 
done your prep work you should be just fine.

Ross

> thanks..
>
> On 4/6/11, Zhijie Shen<zj...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I'm a student that will apply GSoC'11 with Apache. From the perspective of a
>> student, I think one reason is that the idea list of Apache projects is
>> released a bit late. In fact, a number of other organizations released the
>> idea list long time before the organization application deadline. Hence some
>> of students who are not patient enough tend to apply with these early
>> organizations. Just my personal feeling :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik
>> <an...@objectstyle.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Sean Owen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me?
>>>
>>> My experience with GSoC included successes, failures, and outcomes
>>> somewhere in the middle (e.g. a project was delivered, but we never
>>> integrated it in the codebase, and it was left to rot in the repo). Our
>>> conclusion was that the type of task you post for your students to do
>>> plays
>>> a very important role in this (the last discussion on that is here:
>>> http://markmail.org/message/qg2ovoiwtcp3eji5 ). Most of the applying
>>> students are not already active hackers on a project, so giving them tasks
>>> requiring massive changes to the sensitive areas of the code is one recipe
>>> for disaster, and there are more...
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zhijie Shen
>> School of Computing
>> National University of Singapore
>> <http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/%7Ez-shen/>
>>


-- 
rgardler@apache.org
@rgardler

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by ejaj on resurgence <st...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
i m researching for webapp manager for tuscany and m going to apply
for that. Referencing to one of the post , it says its a joke.
I just wanna ask if this infeasible at all and if there is any thing i
could step up to work with.
thanks..

On 4/6/11, Zhijie Shen <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a student that will apply GSoC'11 with Apache. From the perspective of a
> student, I think one reason is that the idea list of Apache projects is
> released a bit late. In fact, a number of other organizations released the
> idea list long time before the organization application deadline. Hence some
> of students who are not patient enough tend to apply with these early
> organizations. Just my personal feeling :-)
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik
> <an...@objectstyle.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Sean Owen wrote:
>>
>> > Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me?
>>
>> My experience with GSoC included successes, failures, and outcomes
>> somewhere in the middle (e.g. a project was delivered, but we never
>> integrated it in the codebase, and it was left to rot in the repo). Our
>> conclusion was that the type of task you post for your students to do
>> plays
>> a very important role in this (the last discussion on that is here:
>> http://markmail.org/message/qg2ovoiwtcp3eji5 ). Most of the applying
>> students are not already active hackers on a project, so giving them tasks
>> requiring massive changes to the sensitive areas of the code is one recipe
>> for disaster, and there are more...
>>
>> Andrus
>
>
>
>
> --
> Zhijie Shen
> School of Computing
> National University of Singapore
> <http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/%7Ez-shen/>
>

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Sent from my mobile device.

On 7 Apr 2011, at 09:38, Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>> I just removed the "The".
>> 
>> Uli
> 
> It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
> Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).

Whilst this is true there is no need to be so formal in non-legal documents. 

I asked about this on press@ some time ago and was told that this is being "relaxed". 


> But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
> personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
> somebody will reinstantiate it.
> 
>  Bernd

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
:-) unless you don't want to phrase it as "Apache Software Foundation, The" ;-)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:58, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> Yeah, I can change it back once the application period is over ;)
>
> Uli
>
> On 07.04.2011 10:38, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>>> I just removed the "The".
>>>
>>> Uli
>>
>> It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
>> Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).
>> But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
>> personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
>> somebody will reinstantiate it.
>>
>>   Bernd
>

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Sent from my mobile device.

On 7 Apr 2011, at 10:15, Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How many mentors do we have this year ? I think once students submit their
> proposals in mail list, if mentors can leave some comments or give some
> advises, supply more feedbacks, it will bring more passion to students, and
> they can bring us more good ideas

It's a requirement that students have already engaged with the mentors. Finding them in the first place seems to be the problem. We have >90 projects on our ideas list. 

Ross

> 
> 2011/4/7 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>
> 
>> Yeah, I can change it back once the application period is over ;)
>> 
>> Uli
>> 
>> On 07.04.2011 10:38, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>>>> I just removed the "The".
>>>> 
>>>> Uli
>>> 
>>> It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
>>> Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).
>>> But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
>>> personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
>>> somebody will reinstantiate it.
>>> 
>>>  Bernd
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards
> 
> Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>.
How many mentors do we have this year ? I think once students submit their
proposals in mail list, if mentors can leave some comments or give some
advises, supply more feedbacks, it will bring more passion to students, and
they can bring us more good ideas

2011/4/7 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>

> Yeah, I can change it back once the application period is over ;)
>
> Uli
>
> On 07.04.2011 10:38, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> >> I just removed the "The".
> >>
> >> Uli
> >
> > It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
> > Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).
> > But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
> > personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
> > somebody will reinstantiate it.
> >
> >   Bernd
>



-- 
Best Regards

Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
Yeah, I can change it back once the application period is over ;)

Uli

On 07.04.2011 10:38, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>> I just removed the "The".
>>
>> Uli
> 
> It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
> Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).
> But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
> personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
> somebody will reinstantiate it.
> 
>   Bernd

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:09, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> I just removed the "The".
>
> Uli

It was there for a reason. Legally and officially, it's "The Apache
Software Foundation" (our homepage reflects this, too).
But I agree that it's easier to find with the first letter 'A' and
personally I'm happy with dropping the The, but you might find
somebody will reinstantiate it.

  Bernd

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
I just removed the "The".

Uli

On 06.04.2011 22:58, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 06/04/2011 21:06, siddharth srivastava wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> "The Apache Software Foundation" appears as "Apache Software Foundation" on
>> melange.
> 
> So it does. Not sure why I thought otherwise - thanks for the correction.
> 
>> I have myself applied for GSoC this year, so just putting in my two cents:
>>
>> One of the possible reasons according to me is the Jira interface. Most of
>> the visitors are unaware of the Jira interface and how issues and projects
>> are managed on it.
> 
> We used JIRA last year too with no ill effects. To be honest if a potential student can't figure out
> JIRA then they probably aren't suitable (at this stage in their education) as an Apache mentee.
> 
> However, it certainly wouldn't do us any harm to have a simple How To (any volunteers).
> 
>> A better wiki interface which could include the things as follows:
> 
> We used to use a Wiki put a) it puts a fair amount of overhead on the admins and projects to cross
> refference and b) is not easily reusable between different mentoring activities.
> 
> Our RSS feeds from JIRA are, for example, on the opense.net site and I'm working with the OpenHatch
> project to get them up there too.
> 
>> I hope that can help in building a better platform.
> 
> Thanks for your input. All suggestions welcome.
> 
> Ross

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 06/04/2011 21:06, siddharth srivastava wrote:
> Hi
>
> "The Apache Software Foundation" appears as "Apache Software Foundation" on
> melange.

So it does. Not sure why I thought otherwise - thanks for the correction.

> I have myself applied for GSoC this year, so just putting in my two cents:
>
> One of the possible reasons according to me is the Jira interface. Most of
> the visitors are unaware of the Jira interface and how issues and projects
> are managed on it.

We used JIRA last year too with no ill effects. To be honest if a 
potential student can't figure out JIRA then they probably aren't 
suitable (at this stage in their education) as an Apache mentee.

However, it certainly wouldn't do us any harm to have a simple How To 
(any volunteers).

> A better wiki interface which could include the things as follows:

We used to use a Wiki put a) it puts a fair amount of overhead on the 
admins and projects to cross refference and b) is not easily reusable 
between different mentoring activities.

Our RSS feeds from JIRA are, for example, on the opense.net site and I'm 
working with the OpenHatch project to get them up there too.

> I hope that can help in building a better platform.

Thanks for your input. All suggestions welcome.

Ross

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by siddharth srivastava <ak...@gmail.com>.
Hi

"The Apache Software Foundation" appears as "Apache Software Foundation" on
melange.

I have myself applied for GSoC this year, so just putting in my two cents:

One of the possible reasons according to me is the Jira interface. Most of
the visitors are unaware of the Jira interface and how issues and projects
are managed on it.

A better wiki interface which could include the things as follows:

- Project Name:
- Mentor Name:(preferable contact point: Mailing List/personal email)
- A description of the corresponding project (like we have Derby Test and
Fix  so it can include what is the project about, its scope etc. )
- Link to the appropriate Jira issues that can be included in this project
(if there are jira issues)
- Pre-requisites of what the student should know (this is what helps a lot
in selecting new projects )

I hope that can help in building a better platform.

Thanks

-- 
Regards
Siddharth Srivastava

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 4/6/2011 8:32 AM, Zhijie Shen wrote:
> I'm a student that will apply GSoC'11 with Apache. From the perspective of a
> student, I think one reason is that the idea list of Apache projects is
> released a bit late. In fact, a number of other organizations released the
> idea list long time before the organization application deadline. Hence some
> of students who are not patient enough tend to apply with these early
> organizations. Just my personal feeling :-)
This is a very important point.  I do think in the past the list was 
published earlier and we had lots of students that came into Derby early 
and got their build and test environment set up and an issue or two 
fixed before the application was submitted.   I am guessing a lot of the 
students that might have come to Apache went off to other projects for 
this reason.

Kathey



Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Zhijie Shen <zj...@gmail.com>.
I'm a student that will apply GSoC'11 with Apache. From the perspective of a
student, I think one reason is that the idea list of Apache projects is
released a bit late. In fact, a number of other organizations released the
idea list long time before the organization application deadline. Hence some
of students who are not patient enough tend to apply with these early
organizations. Just my personal feeling :-)

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>wrote:

>
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Sean Owen wrote:
>
> > Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me?
>
> My experience with GSoC included successes, failures, and outcomes
> somewhere in the middle (e.g. a project was delivered, but we never
> integrated it in the codebase, and it was left to rot in the repo). Our
> conclusion was that the type of task you post for your students to do plays
> a very important role in this (the last discussion on that is here:
> http://markmail.org/message/qg2ovoiwtcp3eji5 ). Most of the applying
> students are not already active hackers on a project, so giving them tasks
> requiring massive changes to the sensitive areas of the code is one recipe
> for disaster, and there are more...
>
> Andrus




-- 
Zhijie Shen
School of Computing
National University of Singapore
<http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/%7Ez-shen/>

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Sean Owen wrote:

> Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me? 

My experience with GSoC included successes, failures, and outcomes somewhere in the middle (e.g. a project was delivered, but we never integrated it in the codebase, and it was left to rot in the repo). Our conclusion was that the type of task you post for your students to do plays a very important role in this (the last discussion on that is here: http://markmail.org/message/qg2ovoiwtcp3eji5 ). Most of the applying students are not already active hackers on a project, so giving them tasks requiring massive changes to the sensitive areas of the code is one recipe for disaster, and there are more...

Andrus

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>.
For Mahout, I am not mentoring this year because none of the three
GSoC projects I have mentored have come close to succeeding. (I am
assured it's not my fault.) Of the 5 Mahout mentored last year, I can
only point to 1 that was usefully successful.

Is anyone else's historical success rate low or is it just me? This
could explain fewer mentors, helping encourage fewer projects, meaning
fewer applications.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Kathey Marsden
<km...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In the small factors category, in Derby project we have something of a
> shortage of mentors this year, which I think is reducing the number of
> applications.  I am hoping we will get at least one more coming in from a
> student that has been active and has said  he wants to apply.
>
> The reduced number of mentors, I think,  is just mostly  because of vacation
> conflicts.

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 4/6/2011 1:40 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
> May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
> in next time.  Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.
>
In the small factors category, in Derby project we have something of a 
shortage of mentors this year, which I think is reducing the number of 
applications.  I am hoping we will get at least one more coming in from 
a student that has been active and has said  he wants to apply.

The reduced number of mentors, I think,  is just mostly  because of 
vacation conflicts.

Kathey



Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by "Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@apache.org>.
A lack of "Success Case" and "Challenging goal"?

I would like to help them so they can be core committers or young open
source star or "little doug cutting". :D

Hama tasks are all full.

P.S., Hama 0.2-incubating RC2 is being voted. Please review and vote if you can.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Sagara Gunathunga
<sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In last few years we did number of promotion programs in local
> universities during Jan/Feb period but due to various reasons we
> couldn't organize such events in this year. This is one of my
> observation from Sri Lanka but that can be a potential reason for some
> other countries too.
>
> May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
> in next time.  Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.
>
> Thanks !
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org> wrote:
>> One explanation could be that with more orgs accepted this year the approximately same number of
>> students spreads over more projects.
>>
>> On 06.04.2011 10:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>>> I don't know how it has been in the last years, but until now we only have 32 proposals. There are
>>> still two days left but I doubt that we will see significantly more. Any ideas what (if any) might
>>> be wrong and what we could do?
>>>
>>> Uli
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sagara Gunathunga
>
> Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
> Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
http://blog.udanax.org
http://twitter.com/eddieyoon

Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Sagara Gunathunga <sa...@gmail.com>.
In last few years we did number of promotion programs in local
universities during Jan/Feb period but due to various reasons we
couldn't organize such events in this year. This is one of my
observation from Sri Lanka but that can be a potential reason for some
other countries too.

May be gathering such small factors will help to reach high popularity
in next time.  Thanks Ulrich to bring this topic for a discussion.

Thanks !

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org> wrote:
> One explanation could be that with more orgs accepted this year the approximately same number of
> students spreads over more projects.
>
> On 06.04.2011 10:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> I don't know how it has been in the last years, but until now we only have 32 proposals. There are
>> still two days left but I doubt that we will see significantly more. Any ideas what (if any) might
>> be wrong and what we could do?
>>
>> Uli
>



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Re: low gsoc popularity this year?

Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org>.
One explanation could be that with more orgs accepted this year the approximately same number of
students spreads over more projects.

On 06.04.2011 10:12, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> I don't know how it has been in the last years, but until now we only have 32 proposals. There are
> still two days left but I doubt that we will see significantly more. Any ideas what (if any) might
> be wrong and what we could do?
> 
> Uli