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Posted to dev@ponymail.apache.org by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> on 2020/06/23 08:46:27 UTC
[Discuss] Donating PonEE UI-X to Apache Pony Mail
Hi pony mail folks,
The chaps at PonEE have been working on a new user interface for Pony
Mail for a while, which is currently being used for mobile devices
accessing our archives at lists.apache.org. For those that haven't tried
it yet, it's a dual-device (mobile+browser) adaptive interface, and
they'd like to donate the interface to us at Apache Pony Mail.
It's not as complex/feature-full as the old/standard pony interface
(some of this is intentional), and some things are still a bit buggy,
but I'd love for us to adopt this interface and work on ironing out the
kinks, potentially replacing our old standard UI with it in the coming
months/years.
Before I describe the major changes/differences, I'll quickly point out
that the desktop/browser version can be tested via
https://lists.apache.org/x/ (when accessing on a mobile device, it
should in fact redirect to that address already, from what I understand).
Now, to the differences with the old UI:
- New simplified front page (the "phone book")
- New base scaffolding with a more compact calendar and stats.
- Adaptive mobile version of the UI
- Better quoting of old email
- New "chatty" design for conversations (old standard view is still
available)
- Integrated diff syntax highlighting (useful for apache!)
- better list tabbing, custom search can now be a tab as well, allowing
you to move between your last search results and a domain's lists.
- moved away from using innerHTML for all un-trusted variables (big
security win).
- preferences tab has been removed. This is an intentional dumbing down
of the interface from their side, and I think it makes sense to have as
simple an interface as possible. Up to the project to decide if that
should change.
I'd like to kick off a discussion where people can give some feedback on
this idea...or if we're all cool with this, that's acceptable as well :)
Let me know what you think! If this discussion is favorable, I'll kick
off a simple vote thread later this/next week, or whenever the
discussion dies down.
With regards,
Daniel.
Fwd: Re: [Discuss] Donating PonEE UI-X to Apache Pony Mail
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
FYI
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Date : Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:00:30 +0200
De : Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>
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Pour : dev@ponymail.incubator.apache.org
On 23/06/2020 11.19, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Can we forward to our dev ML (OFBiz)?
Absolutely, dev@ponymail is a public list :)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 23/06/2020 à 10:46, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
>> Hi pony mail folks,
>> The chaps at PonEE have been working on a new user interface for Pony Mail for a while, which is currently being used for mobile devices accessing
>> our archives at lists.apache.org. For those that haven't tried it yet, it's a dual-device (mobile+browser) adaptive interface, and they'd like to
>> donate the interface to us at Apache Pony Mail.
>>
>> It's not as complex/feature-full as the old/standard pony interface (some of this is intentional), and some things are still a bit buggy, but I'd
>> love for us to adopt this interface and work on ironing out the kinks, potentially replacing our old standard UI with it in the coming months/years.
>>
>> Before I describe the major changes/differences, I'll quickly point out that the desktop/browser version can be tested via
>> https://lists.apache.org/x/ (when accessing on a mobile device, it should in fact redirect to that address already, from what I understand).
>>
>> Now, to the differences with the old UI:
>>
>> - New simplified front page (the "phone book")
>> - New base scaffolding with a more compact calendar and stats.
>> - Adaptive mobile version of the UI
>> - Better quoting of old email
>> - New "chatty" design for conversations (old standard view is still available)
>> - Integrated diff syntax highlighting (useful for apache!)
>> - better list tabbing, custom search can now be a tab as well, allowing you to move between your last search results and a domain's lists.
>> - moved away from using innerHTML for all un-trusted variables (big security win).
>> - preferences tab has been removed. This is an intentional dumbing down of the interface from their side, and I think it makes sense to have as
>> simple an interface as possible. Up to the project to decide if that should change.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to kick off a discussion where people can give some feedback on this idea...or if we're all cool with this, that's acceptable as well :)
>>
>> Let me know what you think! If this discussion is favorable, I'll kick off a simple vote thread later this/next week, or whenever the discussion
>> dies down.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
Re: [Discuss] Donating PonEE UI-X to Apache Pony Mail
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 23/06/2020 11.19, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Can we forward to our dev ML (OFBiz)?
Absolutely, dev@ponymail is a public list :)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 23/06/2020 à 10:46, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
>> Hi pony mail folks,
>> The chaps at PonEE have been working on a new user interface for Pony
>> Mail for a while, which is currently being used for mobile devices
>> accessing our archives at lists.apache.org. For those that haven't
>> tried it yet, it's a dual-device (mobile+browser) adaptive interface,
>> and they'd like to donate the interface to us at Apache Pony Mail.
>>
>> It's not as complex/feature-full as the old/standard pony interface
>> (some of this is intentional), and some things are still a bit buggy,
>> but I'd love for us to adopt this interface and work on ironing out
>> the kinks, potentially replacing our old standard UI with it in the
>> coming months/years.
>>
>> Before I describe the major changes/differences, I'll quickly point
>> out that the desktop/browser version can be tested via
>> https://lists.apache.org/x/ (when accessing on a mobile device, it
>> should in fact redirect to that address already, from what I understand).
>>
>> Now, to the differences with the old UI:
>>
>> - New simplified front page (the "phone book")
>> - New base scaffolding with a more compact calendar and stats.
>> - Adaptive mobile version of the UI
>> - Better quoting of old email
>> - New "chatty" design for conversations (old standard view is still
>> available)
>> - Integrated diff syntax highlighting (useful for apache!)
>> - better list tabbing, custom search can now be a tab as well,
>> allowing you to move between your last search results and a domain's
>> lists.
>> - moved away from using innerHTML for all un-trusted variables (big
>> security win).
>> - preferences tab has been removed. This is an intentional dumbing
>> down of the interface from their side, and I think it makes sense to
>> have as simple an interface as possible. Up to the project to decide
>> if that should change.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to kick off a discussion where people can give some feedback
>> on this idea...or if we're all cool with this, that's acceptable as
>> well :)
>>
>> Let me know what you think! If this discussion is favorable, I'll kick
>> off a simple vote thread later this/next week, or whenever the
>> discussion dies down.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
Re: [Discuss] Donating PonEE UI-X to Apache Pony Mail
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Daniel,
Can we forward to our dev ML (OFBiz)?
Thanks
Jacques
Le 23/06/2020 à 10:46, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
> Hi pony mail folks,
> The chaps at PonEE have been working on a new user interface for Pony Mail for a while, which is currently being used for mobile devices accessing
> our archives at lists.apache.org. For those that haven't tried it yet, it's a dual-device (mobile+browser) adaptive interface, and they'd like to
> donate the interface to us at Apache Pony Mail.
>
> It's not as complex/feature-full as the old/standard pony interface (some of this is intentional), and some things are still a bit buggy, but I'd
> love for us to adopt this interface and work on ironing out the kinks, potentially replacing our old standard UI with it in the coming months/years.
>
> Before I describe the major changes/differences, I'll quickly point out that the desktop/browser version can be tested via
> https://lists.apache.org/x/ (when accessing on a mobile device, it should in fact redirect to that address already, from what I understand).
>
> Now, to the differences with the old UI:
>
> - New simplified front page (the "phone book")
> - New base scaffolding with a more compact calendar and stats.
> - Adaptive mobile version of the UI
> - Better quoting of old email
> - New "chatty" design for conversations (old standard view is still available)
> - Integrated diff syntax highlighting (useful for apache!)
> - better list tabbing, custom search can now be a tab as well, allowing you to move between your last search results and a domain's lists.
> - moved away from using innerHTML for all un-trusted variables (big security win).
> - preferences tab has been removed. This is an intentional dumbing down of the interface from their side, and I think it makes sense to have as
> simple an interface as possible. Up to the project to decide if that should change.
>
>
> I'd like to kick off a discussion where people can give some feedback on this idea...or if we're all cool with this, that's acceptable as well :)
>
> Let me know what you think! If this discussion is favorable, I'll kick off a simple vote thread later this/next week, or whenever the discussion
> dies down.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
Re: [Discuss] Donating PonEE UI-X to Apache Pony Mail
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
I am decidedly +1 to all of these things. I like what I've seen.
On 6/23/20 4:46 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> Hi pony mail folks,
> The chaps at PonEE have been working on a new user interface for Pony
> Mail for a while, which is currently being used for mobile devices
> accessing our archives at lists.apache.org. For those that haven't tried
> it yet, it's a dual-device (mobile+browser) adaptive interface, and
> they'd like to donate the interface to us at Apache Pony Mail.
>
> It's not as complex/feature-full as the old/standard pony interface
> (some of this is intentional), and some things are still a bit buggy,
> but I'd love for us to adopt this interface and work on ironing out the
> kinks, potentially replacing our old standard UI with it in the coming
> months/years.
>
> Before I describe the major changes/differences, I'll quickly point out
> that the desktop/browser version can be tested via
> https://lists.apache.org/x/ (when accessing on a mobile device, it
> should in fact redirect to that address already, from what I understand).
>
> Now, to the differences with the old UI:
>
> - New simplified front page (the "phone book")
> - New base scaffolding with a more compact calendar and stats.
> - Adaptive mobile version of the UI
> - Better quoting of old email
> - New "chatty" design for conversations (old standard view is still
> available)
> - Integrated diff syntax highlighting (useful for apache!)
> - better list tabbing, custom search can now be a tab as well, allowing
> you to move between your last search results and a domain's lists.
> - moved away from using innerHTML for all un-trusted variables (big
> security win).
> - preferences tab has been removed. This is an intentional dumbing down
> of the interface from their side, and I think it makes sense to have as
> simple an interface as possible. Up to the project to decide if that
> should change.
>
>
> I'd like to kick off a discussion where people can give some feedback on
> this idea...or if we're all cool with this, that's acceptable as well :)
>
> Let me know what you think! If this discussion is favorable, I'll kick
> off a simple vote thread later this/next week, or whenever the
> discussion dies down.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
--
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http://rcbowen.com/
@rbowen