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Weird changes in templates ??

During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak 
changes in strings containing "select=MAC"

I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of 
this string:

I came across

<caseinline select=\\"MAC">

<caseinline select="MAC\">

<caseinline select="MAC\\"> 
https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047

<caseinline select="MAC\\\\">

where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.

Since I already corrected all I can't seem to find the originals anymore.

I came across them whilst correcting the checks Escapes in POOTLE

I am no technician at all so it could be all very OK but if not there 
should come some kind of clean-up I suppose

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Re: LT: currency number formatting having switched to Euro

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
No worries, Marcus!

Instead of opening a new Bugzilla issue, I added a comment to this one 
"https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125980".

Regards,

Aivaras

2015.01.16 19:16, Marcus rašė:
> Am 01/16/2015 06:08 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> OK, I'll do that.
>>
>> Just a historical note:
>>
>> Estonia joined in 2011;
>> Latvia in 2014;
>> Lithuania in 2015.
>
> grr, I've mixed-up it with the (general) EU joining. ;-)
>
> Thanks for your correction. So, then it's normal that Latvia abd 
> Lithuania are not yet part of AOO as nobody has add it until today.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> 2015.01.16 18:58, Marcus rašė:
>>> Am 01/16/2015 04:01 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>>> Calc > Format Cells... > Numbers > Category: Currency > Format
>>>>
>>>> In the dropdown list, the format of "Euro €" is associated with
>>>> different locales (e.g. "Euro € German (Germany") or "Euro € Finnish")
>>>> to specify different local formatting.
>>>>
>>>> "Euro € Lithuanian (Lithuania)" is not mentioned, yet. Is there 
>>>> anything
>>>> I should do to make this happen in the next release of AOO?
>>>>
>>>> The proper formats for "Euro €" in Lithuanian are the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1.234,00 Eur
>>>> 1.234,00 EUR
>>>> 1.234,00 €
>>>>
>>>> By the way, Latvia (LV) has, too, switched to Euro (the year 
>>>> before). It
>>>> is not listed under Euro currency formats. Unfortunately, I cannot be
>>>> more specific about Latvian as I do not know the language.
>>>
>>> that's strange as the Euro format for Estonia is already there. But
>>> all 3 baltic contries joined the Euro zone at the same date.
>>>
>>> Please open a bugzilla issue and try to provide a patch for both
>>> countries. Then we can test if this is enough.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2014.12.24 23:51, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>>>>> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> national currencies specified I should update?
>>>>>
>>>>> The relevant file is probably this one:
>>>>> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
>>>>> 359 <LC_CURRENCY>
>>>>> 360 <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
>>>>> 361 <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
>>>>> 362 <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
>>>>> 363 <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
>>>>> 364 <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
>>>>> 365 <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
>>>>> 366 </Currency>
>>>>> 367 </LC_CURRENCY>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro
>>>>> countries, you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix
>>>>> the file, and we can make a test build.
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Re: LT: currency number formatting having switched to Euro

Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 01/16/2015 06:08 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> OK, I'll do that.
>
> Just a historical note:
>
> Estonia joined in 2011;
> Latvia in 2014;
> Lithuania in 2015.

grr, I've mixed-up it with the (general) EU joining. ;-)

Thanks for your correction. So, then it's normal that Latvia abd 
Lithuania are not yet part of AOO as nobody has add it until today.

Marcus



> 2015.01.16 18:58, Marcus rašė:
>> Am 01/16/2015 04:01 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>>> Calc > Format Cells... > Numbers > Category: Currency > Format
>>>
>>> In the dropdown list, the format of "Euro €" is associated with
>>> different locales (e.g. "Euro € German (Germany") or "Euro € Finnish")
>>> to specify different local formatting.
>>>
>>> "Euro € Lithuanian (Lithuania)" is not mentioned, yet. Is there anything
>>> I should do to make this happen in the next release of AOO?
>>>
>>> The proper formats for "Euro €" in Lithuanian are the following:
>>>
>>> 1.234,00 Eur
>>> 1.234,00 EUR
>>> 1.234,00 €
>>>
>>> By the way, Latvia (LV) has, too, switched to Euro (the year before). It
>>> is not listed under Euro currency formats. Unfortunately, I cannot be
>>> more specific about Latvian as I do not know the language.
>>
>> that's strange as the Euro format for Estonia is already there. But
>> all 3 baltic contries joined the Euro zone at the same date.
>>
>> Please open a bugzilla issue and try to provide a patch for both
>> countries. Then we can test if this is enough.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2014.12.24 23:51, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>>>> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is
>>>>> there
>>>>> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files
>>>>> with
>>>>> national currencies specified I should update?
>>>>
>>>> The relevant file is probably this one:
>>>> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
>>>> 359 <LC_CURRENCY>
>>>> 360 <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
>>>> 361 <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
>>>> 362 <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
>>>> 363 <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
>>>> 364 <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
>>>> 365 <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
>>>> 366 </Currency>
>>>> 367 </LC_CURRENCY>
>>>>
>>>> If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro
>>>> countries, you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix
>>>> the file, and we can make a test build.

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Re: LT: currency number formatting having switched to Euro

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
OK, I'll do that.

Just a historical note:

Estonia joined in 2011;
Latvia in 2014;
Lithuania in 2015.

Regards,

Aivaras

2015.01.16 18:58, Marcus rašė:
> Am 01/16/2015 04:01 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> Calc > Format Cells... > Numbers > Category: Currency > Format
>>
>> In the dropdown list, the format of "Euro €" is associated with
>> different locales (e.g. "Euro € German (Germany") or "Euro € Finnish")
>> to specify different local formatting.
>>
>> "Euro € Lithuanian (Lithuania)" is not mentioned, yet. Is there anything
>> I should do to make this happen in the next release of AOO?
>>
>> The proper formats for "Euro €" in Lithuanian are the following:
>>
>> 1.234,00 Eur
>> 1.234,00 EUR
>> 1.234,00 €
>>
>> By the way, Latvia (LV) has, too, switched to Euro (the year before). It
>> is not listed under Euro currency formats. Unfortunately, I cannot be
>> more specific about Latvian as I do not know the language.
>
> that's strange as the Euro format for Estonia is already there. But 
> all 3 baltic contries joined the Euro zone at the same date.
>
> Please open a bugzilla issue and try to provide a patch for both 
> countries. Then we can test if this is enough.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> 2014.12.24 23:51, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>>> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is
>>>> there
>>>> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files 
>>>> with
>>>> national currencies specified I should update?
>>>
>>> The relevant file is probably this one:
>>> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
>>> 359 <LC_CURRENCY>
>>> 360 <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
>>> 361 <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
>>> 362 <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
>>> 363 <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
>>> 364 <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
>>> 365 <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
>>> 366 </Currency>
>>> 367 </LC_CURRENCY>
>>>
>>> If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro
>>> countries, you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix
>>> the file, and we can make a test build.
>
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Re: LT: currency number formatting having switched to Euro

Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 01/16/2015 04:01 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> Calc > Format Cells... > Numbers > Category: Currency > Format
>
> In the dropdown list, the format of "Euro €" is associated with
> different locales (e.g. "Euro € German (Germany") or "Euro € Finnish")
> to specify different local formatting.
>
> "Euro € Lithuanian (Lithuania)" is not mentioned, yet. Is there anything
> I should do to make this happen in the next release of AOO?
>
> The proper formats for "Euro €" in Lithuanian are the following:
>
> 1.234,00 Eur
> 1.234,00 EUR
> 1.234,00 €
>
> By the way, Latvia (LV) has, too, switched to Euro (the year before). It
> is not listed under Euro currency formats. Unfortunately, I cannot be
> more specific about Latvian as I do not know the language.

that's strange as the Euro format for Estonia is already there. But all 
3 baltic contries joined the Euro zone at the same date.

Please open a bugzilla issue and try to provide a patch for both 
countries. Then we can test if this is enough.

Thanks

Marcus



> 2014.12.24 23:51, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is
>>> there
>>> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files with
>>> national currencies specified I should update?
>>
>> The relevant file is probably this one:
>> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml
>>
>>
>> Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
>> 359 <LC_CURRENCY>
>> 360 <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
>> 361 <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
>> 362 <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
>> 363 <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
>> 364 <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
>> 365 <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
>> 366 </Currency>
>> 367 </LC_CURRENCY>
>>
>> If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro
>> countries, you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix
>> the file, and we can make a test build.

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LT: currency number formatting having switched to Euro

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
Calc > Format Cells... > Numbers > Category: Currency > Format

In the dropdown list, the format of "Euro €" is associated with 
different locales (e.g. "Euro € German (Germany") or "Euro € Finnish") 
to specify different local formatting.

"Euro € Lithuanian (Lithuania)" is not mentioned, yet. Is there anything 
I should do to make this happen in the next release of AOO?

The proper formats for "Euro €" in Lithuanian are the following:

1.234,00 Eur
1.234,00 EUR
1.234,00 €

By the way, Latvia (LV) has, too, switched to Euro (the year before). It 
is not listed under Euro currency formats. Unfortunately, I cannot be 
more specific about Latvian as I do not know the language.

Regards,

Aivaras

2014.12.24 23:51, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is 
>> there
>> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files with
>> national currencies specified I should update?
>
> The relevant file is probably this one:
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml 
>
>
> Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
> 359  <LC_CURRENCY>
> 360    <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
> 361      <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
> 362      <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
> 363      <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
> 364      <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
> 365      <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
> 366    </Currency>
> 367  </LC_CURRENCY>
>
> If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro 
> countries, you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix 
> the file, and we can make a test build.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Two questions

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 23/11/2014 Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
> 1) Writer > Find & Replace (Cntr+F) > Replace All (there's got to be
> some text, a search key and a replace key for it to work): when the
> replacing is complete, a small info window pops up with a push button
> labeled "OK." Can someone point me to the actual text string. I fail to
> isolate it.

Here's the keyid for it from a kid build I just made (it's based on 
trunk while kid is still based on 4.1.1, but it shouldn't make a 
difference in our case): http://i.imgur.com/21U00Cc.png (so the ID is 
"y++ta0"). With that ID you can look up the string as explained in 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide (ask if you have doubts).

But unfortunately this is the same "OK" string we use in other places, 
see http://i.imgur.com/yRCOhbB.png (ASCII Filter) and you will notice 
that "OK" has the same ID next to it. So you can't change that specific 
OK button: any changes will affect the other OK buttons too.

> 2) On January 1st, [2015] Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is there
> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files with
> national currencies specified I should update?

The relevant file is probably this one:
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/i18npool/source/localedata/data/lt_LT.xml

Possibly it's this section, but please read the whole file:
359  <LC_CURRENCY>
360    <Currency default="true" usedInCompatibleFormatCodes="true">
361      <CurrencyID>LTL</CurrencyID>
362      <CurrencySymbol>Lt</CurrencySymbol>
363      <BankSymbol>LTL</BankSymbol>
364      <CurrencyName>Litas</CurrencyName>
365      <DecimalPlaces>2</DecimalPlaces>
366    </Currency>
367  </LC_CURRENCY>

If you look around the code and maybe look at some other Euro countries, 
you can probably make a patch or just tell us how to fix the file, and 
we can make a test build.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Two questions

Posted by Michal Hriň <hr...@apache.org>.
Hi Aivaras,

Dňa 23.11.2014 o 14:36 Aivaras Stepukonis napísal(a):
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Writer > Find & Replace (Cntr+F) > Replace All (there's got to be
> some text, a search key and a replace key for it to work): when the
> replacing is complete, a small info window pops up with a push button
> labeled "OK." Can someone point me to the actual text string. I fail to
> isolate it.
>
> 2) On January 1st, 2015 Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is there
> something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files with
> national currencies specified I should update?
>

I think that there is no need to change strings.
(I think that there can be little change in code, but not sure, I'm not 
very familiar with code, I've joined to community after currency switch 
in my country.)

But you should change your currency in next year manually in OpenOffice

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started/Choosing_language_settings#Change_some_locale_and_language_settings

of course in your operating system and other programs.

Regards,
Michal Hriň

> Regards,
>
> Aivaras
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Re: Two questions

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, the date should have been "January 1st, 2015."

Regards,

Aivaras

2014.11.23 15:36, Aivaras Stepukonis rašė:
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Writer > Find & Replace (Cntr+F) > Replace All (there's got to be 
> some text, a search key and a replace key for it to work): when the 
> replacing is complete, a small info window pops up with a push button 
> labeled "OK." Can someone point me to the actual text string. I fail 
> to isolate it.
>
> 2) On January 1st, 2014 Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is 
> there something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages 
> files with national currencies specified I should update?
>
> Regards,
>
> Aivaras


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Two questions

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
I have two questions:

1) Writer > Find & Replace (Cntr+F) > Replace All (there's got to be 
some text, a search key and a replace key for it to work): when the 
replacing is complete, a small info window pops up with a push button 
labeled "OK." Can someone point me to the actual text string. I fail to 
isolate it.

2) On January 1st, 2014 Lithuania is switching from LTL to EUR, is there 
something I should keep in mind, any strings in the languages files with 
national currencies specified I should update?

Regards,

Aivaras

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Re: Blog link is broken

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
It's back, indeed!

Regards,

Aivaras

2014.11.18 20:56, Marcus rašė:
> Am 11/18/2014 06:42 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> The blog link "http://blogs.apache.org/ooo/" accessible from the main
>> webpage seems to be broken (Error: The requested URL /ooo/ was not found
>> on this server.).
>
> no problem for me a second ago. Maybe a temporary problem which 
> wouldn't be the only one today.
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: Blog link is broken

Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 11/18/2014 06:42 PM, schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> The blog link "http://blogs.apache.org/ooo/" accessible from the main
> webpage seems to be broken (Error: The requested URL /ooo/ was not found
> on this server.).

no problem for me a second ago. Maybe a temporary problem which wouldn't 
be the only one today.

Marcus


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Blog link is broken

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
The blog link "http://blogs.apache.org/ooo/" accessible from the main 
webpage seems to be broken (Error: The requested URL /ooo/ was not found 
on this server.).

Regards,

Aivaras

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Re: AOO 4.2: translation deadline

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the update, Andrea!

Regards,

Aivaras

2014.11.18 00:29, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
> Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
>> What is the deadline for the translation of AOO 4.2?
>
> We didn't set a deadline yet, and possibly more strings will be added 
> before 4.2. So you can take your time, but it doesn't hurt if you 
> complete the translation right now!
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
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Re: AOO 4.2: translation deadline

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
> What is the deadline for the translation of AOO 4.2?

We didn't set a deadline yet, and possibly more strings will be added 
before 4.2. So you can take your time, but it doesn't hurt if you 
complete the translation right now!

Regards,
   Andrea.

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AOO 4.2: translation deadline

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
Hello,

What is the deadline for the translation of AOO 4.2?

Regards,

Aivaras

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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

Translation for Portuguese-PT at 100 %.

Here are some more escape errors:

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    <https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/guide.po#unit=28509750>;
  * Line 28509751
    <https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/guide.po#unit=28509751>;
  * Line 28509753
    <https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/guide.po#unit=28509753>;

Hope this can be useful.

Regards,
Pedro.


Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 11/11/14 18:23, Dick Groskamp wrote:

> Juergen,
> 
> I've translated the last update.
> 
> After that I came across 5 faulty Escape errors.
> They all seem to be related to the word MAC
> 
> I've added a document with the errors so this message won't be toooo
> long  :)
> Hope it makes it to the list.
> 
> I already corrected the erros in Dutch translation so they won't be
> there anymore.
> 
> Since there are only 5 I assume we can take some time on this. No need
> to rush.

I agree and you can easy search for it, I tried both and searched for
MAC and \\\\ and found the places in the German translation directly.

But nevertheless a very strange bug and we can hopefully find the root
cause. Who knows which other problems were introduced during the merge.

Juergen


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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Dick Groskamp <th...@quicknet.nl>.
Jürgen Schmidt schreef op 11-11-2014 11:39:
> On 11/11/14 11:19, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 11/11/14 09:26, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 11/11/14 09:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> On 08/11/14 18:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dick,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick Groskamp schrieb:
>>>>>> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
>>>>>> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
>>>>>> this string:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I came across
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>>>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on
>>>>> the way to Pootle.
>>>> mmh, no good news. I used the localize command as described under
>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers to create a
>>>> new sdf file. And then the normal pootle commands to convert into po
>>>> files etc.
>>>>
>>>> I will check the new sdf file if the error is already there. But in
>>>> general I am not aware of any changes in this area.
>>> the sdf and the generated pot files looks good on the first quick look.
>>> Will try to figure out what's going wrong ...
>>>
>> I have finished my second update to include the latest changes from
>> Regina in helpcontent2. I still some of the reported problems but have
>> no idea yet what's going wrong.
> The new templates looks ok, it must be something wrong when the existing
> translation is merged against the new templates. This is something that
> is not under my control and I use Pootle tools for this task. Needs
> further investigation ...
>
> If somebody is interested to work on this I can upload the new generated
> templates on people. I have limited time at the moment to figure this out.
>
> Juergen
>
>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
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Juergen,

I've translated the last update.

After that I came across 5 faulty Escape errors.
They all seem to be related to the word MAC

I've added a document with the errors so this message won't be toooo 
long  :)
Hope it makes it to the list.

I already corrected the erros in Dutch translation so they won't be 
there anymore.

Since there are only 5 I assume we can take some time on this. No need 
to rush.

-- 
DiGro
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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 11/11/14 11:19, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 11/11/14 09:26, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 11/11/14 09:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 08/11/14 18:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
>>>> Hi Dick,
>>>>
>>>> Dick Groskamp schrieb:
>>>>> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
>>>>> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
>>>>> this string:
>>>>>
>>>>> I came across
>>>>>
>>>>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>>>>>
>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>>>>>
>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>>>>>
>>>>> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on
>>>> the way to Pootle.
>>>
>>> mmh, no good news. I used the localize command as described under
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers to create a
>>> new sdf file. And then the normal pootle commands to convert into po
>>> files etc.
>>>
>>> I will check the new sdf file if the error is already there. But in
>>> general I am not aware of any changes in this area.
>>
>> the sdf and the generated pot files looks good on the first quick look.
>> Will try to figure out what's going wrong ...
>>
> 
> I have finished my second update to include the latest changes from
> Regina in helpcontent2. I still some of the reported problems but have
> no idea yet what's going wrong.

The new templates looks ok, it must be something wrong when the existing
translation is merged against the new templates. This is something that
is not under my control and I use Pootle tools for this task. Needs
further investigation ...

If somebody is interested to work on this I can upload the new generated
templates on people. I have limited time at the moment to figure this out.

Juergen


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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 11/11/14 09:26, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 11/11/14 09:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 08/11/14 18:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
>>> Hi Dick,
>>>
>>> Dick Groskamp schrieb:
>>>> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
>>>> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
>>>> this string:
>>>>
>>>> I came across
>>>>
>>>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>>>>
>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>>>>
>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>>>>
>>>> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on
>>> the way to Pootle.
>>
>> mmh, no good news. I used the localize command as described under
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers to create a
>> new sdf file. And then the normal pootle commands to convert into po
>> files etc.
>>
>> I will check the new sdf file if the error is already there. But in
>> general I am not aware of any changes in this area.
> 
> the sdf and the generated pot files looks good on the first quick look.
> Will try to figure out what's going wrong ...
> 

I have finished my second update to include the latest changes from
Regina in helpcontent2. I still some of the reported problems but have
no idea yet what's going wrong.

Juergen




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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 11/11/14 09:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 08/11/14 18:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> Hi Dick,
>>
>> Dick Groskamp schrieb:
>>> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
>>> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
>>> this string:
>>>
>>> I came across
>>>
>>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>>>
>>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>>>
>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>>>
>>>
>>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>>>
>>> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>>>
>>
>> The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on
>> the way to Pootle.
> 
> mmh, no good news. I used the localize command as described under
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers to create a
> new sdf file. And then the normal pootle commands to convert into po
> files etc.
> 
> I will check the new sdf file if the error is already there. But in
> general I am not aware of any changes in this area.

the sdf and the generated pot files looks good on the first quick look.
Will try to figure out what's going wrong ...

Juergen


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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 08/11/14 18:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Dick,
> 
> Dick Groskamp schrieb:
>> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
>> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>>
>> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
>> this string:
>>
>> I came across
>>
>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>>
>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>>
>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>>
>>
>> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>>
>>
>>
>> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>>
>> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>>
> 
> The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on
> the way to Pootle.

mmh, no good news. I used the localize command as described under
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers to create a
new sdf file. And then the normal pootle commands to convert into po
files etc.

I will check the new sdf file if the error is already there. But in
general I am not aware of any changes in this area.

Juergen


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> Regina
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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Dick,

Dick Groskamp schrieb:
> During translation of the new changes in Pootle I came across severak
> changes in strings containing "select=MAC"
>
> I don't know if this is intentional but there are differecht kind of
> this string:
>
> I came across
>
> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>
> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>
> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28644126
>
> https://translate.apache.org/nl/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po#unit=28644047
>
>
> <caseinline select="MAC\\\\">
>
> where the normal is:  <caseinline select="MAC"> as far as I know.
>

The corresponding .xhp file is OK. So it is something, which happened on 
the way to Pootle.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
As far as I understand, Jürgen is coming up with a new revision of the 
files. I'll start translating when things settle down a bit.

Regards,

Aivaras


2014.11.08 18:22, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
> Dick Groskamp wrote:
>> I came across
>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>
> This looks quite bad, especially seeing that escaping is not symmetric 
> in the opening and closing quote. So this is almost surely wrong.
>
> When other translators meet this, please send a link to the Pootle 
> fragment here, for better investigation of the problematic strings.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
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Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 08-11-2014 16:22, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Dick Groskamp wrote:
>> I came across
>> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
>> <caseinline select="MAC\">
>> <caseinline select="MAC\\">
>
> This looks quite bad, especially seeing that escaping is not symmetric
> in the opening and closing quote. So this is almost surely wrong.
>
> When other translators meet this, please send a link to the Pootle
> fragment here, for better investigation of  the problematic strings.

Hi,
here are some more:

  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/01.po#unit=28104638
  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po#unit=28509735
  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/guide.po#unit=28509750
  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/guide.po#unit=28509751
  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/01.po#unit=28119736
  * https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/guide.po#unit=28121546


I also got lots of these extra </emph> with or without extra spaces
(marked in red below)):

Apache OpenOffice 4.x Help / helpcontent2/source/text/shared/guide.po

Line 28655452
<https://translate.apache.org/pt/aoo40help/translate/helpcontent2/source/text/shared/guide.po#unit=28655452>

Locations:
lineend_define.xhp#par_id3149795.17.help.text
Failed checks:

  * XML Tags
    <http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/pofilter_tests.html#xmltags>


English
Select the object and choose <emph>Format - </emph><switchinline
select="appl"><caseinline select="WRITER"><emph>Drawing Object -
</emph></caseinline><caseinline select="CALC"><emph>Graphic -
</emph></caseinline></switchinline><emph>Line</emph>.
Portuguese
Selecione o objeto e, em seguida, escolha <emph>Formatar -
</emph><switchinline select="appl"><caseinline
select="WRITER"><emph>Objeto de desenho -
</emph></caseinline><caseinline select="CALC"><emph>Imagem -
</emph></caseinline></switchinline><emph/><emph>Linha</emph>.

Regards,
Pedro.

Re: Weird changes in templates ??

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Dick Groskamp wrote:
> I came across
> <caseinline select=\\"MAC">
> <caseinline select="MAC\">
> <caseinline select="MAC\\">

This looks quite bad, especially seeing that escaping is not symmetric 
in the opening and closing quote. So this is almost surely wrong.

When other translators meet this, please send a link to the Pootle 
fragment here, for better investigation of  the problematic strings.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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