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Uniqueness of Airavata
Hi all!
We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During the
research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
Tarverna, Kepler ,
Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points about
how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
Thanks!
--
*Harsha Kumara*
*Undergraduate*
*Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
*University of Moratuwa*
*Sri Lanka.*
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Marlon Pierce <ma...@iu.edu>.
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I suggest also thinking of what the gaps and opportunities are within
the field of scientific workflows and science gateways.
Marlon
On 3/11/13 10:02 AM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana wrote:
> HI All,
>
> There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
> significant literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
> time to harness all this background reading work that has been done
> individually and list the papers (links) in categories on the
> Airavata website.
>
> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> categories based on the work you have already completed?
>
> Shahani
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA
> <ne...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project.
>> We looked some research papers science gateways. We found some
>> interesting facts about science gateways in the research paper
>> 'TeraGrid Science Gateways and Their Impact on Science' [1] which
>> talks about 4 successful science gateways including LEAD. And we
>> got to know that LEAD project has caused to the development of
>> AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways. And the
>> research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
>> Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
>> work flow systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a conclusion that
>> AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing similar kind of job (please
>> correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out what is so
>> unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have
>> some good references if we are moving in the wrong path
>> determining what is AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this
>> project. Your help is really appreciated.
>>
>> Thank You !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Harsha,
>>>
>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
>>> is a component. A good place to start is to do literature study
>>> on Science Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference
>>> papers to make it
>> easy
>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize
>>> the best way to find out differences in features in open source
>>> projects is cracking open the code. So I suggest downloading
>>> the code, going through tutorials and asking questions on the
>>> corresponding mailing lists of the tools you are comparing
>>> against. You identified a good first list, please keep sharing
>>> your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit
>> from
>>> your contributions.
>>>
>>> Suresh
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
>>>> Airavata.During
>> the
>>>> research we have found some existing work flow generation
>>>> tools like Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
>>>> like if we can some details and points
>> about
>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate* *Department of
>>>> Computer Science and Engineering* *University of Moratuwa*
>>>> *Sri Lanka.*
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Sameera Jayaratna <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
We went through the resources pointed out and some more. From the resources
we could get a good start and believe that we have some understanding about
the background for our project. Some of the important point came across are
as follows:
Workflows describe how a set of components and input output data are
related in a declarative way. There are similarities as well as differences
among scientific workflows and business workflows. One significant
identified was that business workflows are control flow oriented and
scientific workflow are data flow oriented.
Scientific gateways consist of a set of tools which provides convenient
interface for composing and monitoring workflows and allow scientists to do
experiments with less concern on underlying computational resources.
Workflow management systems consists of some core functionalities; model
and specify processes using design primitives, modify developed processes
such for verification and optimization and automate the execution of
processes by scheduling, controlling and monitoring the tasks. Apart from
them, there are some desirable requirements of a workflow management system
such as, collaboration, reproducibility and flexible environment. Even
though these requirements are fulfilled to some extent in the existing
workflow management systems they identified as not up to the required level.
The provenance of a data product contains information about the process and
data used to derive the data product.” It includes information such as who
created this data product and when, when it was modified and by whom, the
process used to create the data product and were two data products derived
from the same raw data. Provenance acts a important role in providing
reproducibility.
Thank you for the resources. We would appreciate if you can provide a
feedback and point out any misunderstandings we are having if there seems
to be any.
Thank you,
Sameera.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are just stepping
> in.
>
> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey and research
> directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics, pp. 746–753,
> 2008.
>
> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D. Gannon, C.
> Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on the 2006 NSF Workshop
> on Challenges of Scientific Workflows. Citeseer, 2006.
>
> Thanks,
> Danushka
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka
> <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
> > with workflow engines.
> > Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
> > applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
> > on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> > refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
> > which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
> > their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
> > movement.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pavithra.
> >
> > [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
> > clouds,” Cloud Computing,
> > Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> > Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
> >
> > [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
> > and Rajkumar Buyya
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
> > > better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then
> study
> > > the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges
> are
> > > different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow
> engine
> > > comprise of several unique features and concepts while major
> abstraction
> > is
> > > workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent
> > workflow
> > > engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
> > > used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
> > > work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
> > >
> > > /Sanjaya
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> > > danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would say,
> > > >
> > > > 1. Science Gateways
> > > > 2. Workflow Engines
> > > > 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
> > > > 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
> > > > 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
> relates
> > > to
> > > > 4)
> > > >
> > > > Danushka
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
> > > > shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HI All,
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
> > > significant
> > > > > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to
> > harness
> > > > all
> > > > > this background reading work that has been done individually and
> list
> > > the
> > > > > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> > > > categories
> > > > > based on the work you have already completed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Shahani
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
> > newair007@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project.
> We
> > > > looked
> > > > > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
> > > facts
> > > > > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
> > > Gateways
> > > > > and
> > > > > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful
> science
> > > > > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
> > > > caused
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science
> > gateways.
> > > > And
> > > > > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for
> Distributed
> > > > > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
> > work
> > > > flow
> > > > > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> > > > > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> > > > > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> > > > similar
> > > > > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to
> figure
> > > out
> > > > > what
> > > > > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to
> have
> > > > some
> > > > > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining
> what
> > > is
> > > > > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
> > > really
> > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You !
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <smarru@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HI Harsha,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
> > > Science
> > > > > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to
> > make
> > > > it
> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize
> the
> > > best
> > > > > way
> > > > > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
> > > > cracking
> > > > > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
> > > > > tutorials
> > > > > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
> > > tools
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
> > > keep
> > > > > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
> > > benefit
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > your contributions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
> > > > Airavata.During
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation
> tools
> > > > like
> > > > > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > > > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
> > > points
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > > > > > > *Undergraduate*
> > > > > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > > > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > > > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> > > > > *Computer Scientist*
> > > > > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> > > > > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> > > > > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pavithra Kulathilaka.
> >
>
--
*Sameera Jayaratna*
*Undergraduate*
*Department of Computer Science And Engineering*
*University of Moratuwa*
*Sri Lanka*
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Sameera Jayaratna <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thank you very much for the resources. They will be really helpful for our
project to gain a lot of knowledge in the context and move on.
Thanks,
Sameera
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Lahiru Gunathilake <gl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Nice one Danushka !
>
> Thanks for the contribution.
>
> Lahiru
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> > Great job guys!
> >
> > On 3/22/13 4:39 AM, "Marlon Pierce" <ma...@iu.edu> wrote:
> >
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> > >Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
> > >
> > >
> > >Marlon
> > >
> > >
> > >On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> > >> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
> > >> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] -
> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Literature
> > >>
> > >> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
> > >>
> > >> Suresh
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks, Danushka
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> > >>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
> > >>>> just stepping in.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, ³Scientific workflow: a survey
> > >>>> and research directions,² Parallel Processing and Applied
> > >>>> Mathematics, pp. 746753, 2008.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
> > >>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
> > >>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
> > >>>> Citeseer, 2006.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks, Danushka
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
> > >>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
> > >>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done a
> > >>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
> > >>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
> > >>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> > >>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
> > >>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
> > >>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
> > >>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, ³Workflow
> > >>>>> engine for clouds,² Cloud Computing, Principles and
> > >>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> > >>>>> Computing, pp. 321344, 2011.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
> > >>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
> > >>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I
> > >>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
> > >>>>>> engines first and then
> > >>>>> study
> > >>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
> > >>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
> > >>>>>> Each prominent workflow
> > >>>>> engine
> > >>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
> > >>>>>> major
> > >>>>> abstraction is
> > >>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
> > >>>>>> prominent
> > >>>>> workflow
> > >>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
> > >>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
> > >>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
> > >>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> /Sanjaya
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> > >>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would say,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
> > >>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
> > >>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
> > >>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
> > >>>>> relates
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> 4)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Danushka
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
> > >>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> HI All,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have
> > >>>>>>>> done
> > >>>>>> significant
> > >>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
> > >>>>>>>> time to
> > >>>>> harness
> > >>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
> > >>>>>>>> individually and
> > >>>>> list
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
> > >>>>>>>> thoughts on the
> > >>>>>>> categories
> > >>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Shahani
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
> > >>>>> newair007@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the
> > >>>>>>>>> same project. We
> > >>>>>>> looked
> > >>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some
> > >>>>>>>>> interesting
> > >>>>>> facts
> > >>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
> > >>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
> > >>>>>> Gateways
> > >>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4
> > >>>>>>>>> successful
> > >>>>> science
> > >>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD
> > >>>>>>>>> project has
> > >>>>>>> caused
> > >>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build
> > >>>>>>>>> science
> > >>>>> gateways.
> > >>>>>>> And
> > >>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
> > >>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
> > >>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
> > >>>>> work
> > >>>>>>> flow
> > >>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
> > >>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a
> > >>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> > >>>>>>> similar
> > >>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And
> > >>>>>>>>> tried to figure
> > >>>>>> out
> > >>>>>>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We
> > >>>>>>>>> would like to
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path
> > >>>>>>>>> determining
> > >>>>> what
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project.
> > >>>>>>>>> Your help is
> > >>>>>> really
> > >>>>>>>>> appreciated.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank You !
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&ur
> > >>>>>l=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org
> > %2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4
> > >>>>>668681%26tag%3D1
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in
> > >>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do
> > >>>>>>>>>> literature study on
> > >>>>>> Science
> > >>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of
> > >>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
> > >>>>> make
> > >>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>> easy
> > >>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will
> > >>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
> > >>>>>> best
> > >>>>>>>> way
> > >>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source
> > >>>>>>>>>> projects is
> > >>>>>>> cracking
> > >>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code,
> > >>>>>>>>>> going through
> > >>>>>>>> tutorials
> > >>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing
> > >>>>>>>>>> lists of the
> > >>>>>> tools
> > >>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first
> > >>>>>>>>>> list, please
> > >>>>>> keep
> > >>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
> > >>>>>>>>>> like you will
> > >>>>>> benefit
> > >>>>>>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Suresh
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
> > >>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS
> > >>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
> > >>>>>>> Airavata.During
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow
> > >>>>>>>>>>> generation
> > >>>>> tools
> > >>>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
> > >>>>>> points
> > >>>>>>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
> > >>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
> > >>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
> > >>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University of
> > >>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Lahiru Gunathilake <gl...@gmail.com>.
Nice one Danushka !
Thanks for the contribution.
Lahiru
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Great job guys!
>
> On 3/22/13 4:39 AM, "Marlon Pierce" <ma...@iu.edu> wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> >
> >Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
> >
> >
> >Marlon
> >
> >
> >On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> >> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
> >> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
> >>>
> >>> [1] -
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
> >>>
> >>>
> >Literature
> >>
> >> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
> >>
> >> Suresh
> >>
> >>> Thanks, Danushka
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> >>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
> >>>> just stepping in.
> >>>>
> >>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, ³Scientific workflow: a survey
> >>>> and research directions,² Parallel Processing and Applied
> >>>> Mathematics, pp. 746753, 2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
> >>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
> >>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
> >>>> Citeseer, 2006.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, Danushka
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
> >>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
> >>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done a
> >>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
> >>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
> >>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> >>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
> >>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
> >>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
> >>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, ³Workflow
> >>>>> engine for clouds,² Cloud Computing, Principles and
> >>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> >>>>> Computing, pp. 321344, 2011.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
> >>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
> >>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I
> >>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
> >>>>>> engines first and then
> >>>>> study
> >>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
> >>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
> >>>>>> Each prominent workflow
> >>>>> engine
> >>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
> >>>>>> major
> >>>>> abstraction is
> >>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
> >>>>>> prominent
> >>>>> workflow
> >>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
> >>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
> >>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
> >>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /Sanjaya
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> >>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would say,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
> >>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
> >>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
> >>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
> >>>>> relates
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> 4)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Danushka
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
> >>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> HI All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have
> >>>>>>>> done
> >>>>>> significant
> >>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
> >>>>>>>> time to
> >>>>> harness
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
> >>>>>>>> individually and
> >>>>> list
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
> >>>>>>>> thoughts on the
> >>>>>>> categories
> >>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Shahani
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
> >>>>> newair007@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the
> >>>>>>>>> same project. We
> >>>>>>> looked
> >>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some
> >>>>>>>>> interesting
> >>>>>> facts
> >>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
> >>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
> >>>>>> Gateways
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4
> >>>>>>>>> successful
> >>>>> science
> >>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD
> >>>>>>>>> project has
> >>>>>>> caused
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build
> >>>>>>>>> science
> >>>>> gateways.
> >>>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
> >>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
> >>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
> >>>>> work
> >>>>>>> flow
> >>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
> >>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a
> >>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> >>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And
> >>>>>>>>> tried to figure
> >>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We
> >>>>>>>>> would like to
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path
> >>>>>>>>> determining
> >>>>> what
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project.
> >>>>>>>>> Your help is
> >>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>> appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank You !
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&ur
> >>>>>l=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org
> %2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4
> >>>>>668681%26tag%3D1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in
> >>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do
> >>>>>>>>>> literature study on
> >>>>>> Science
> >>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of
> >>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
> >>>>> make
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> easy
> >>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will
> >>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
> >>>>>> best
> >>>>>>>> way
> >>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source
> >>>>>>>>>> projects is
> >>>>>>> cracking
> >>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code,
> >>>>>>>>>> going through
> >>>>>>>> tutorials
> >>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing
> >>>>>>>>>> lists of the
> >>>>>> tools
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first
> >>>>>>>>>> list, please
> >>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
> >>>>>>>>>> like you will
> >>>>>> benefit
> >>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Suresh
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
> >>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS
> >>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
> >>>>>>> Airavata.During
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow
> >>>>>>>>>>> generation
> >>>>> tools
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
> >>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
> >>>>>> points
> >>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
> >>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> >>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
> >>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
> >>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
> >>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University of
> >>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Great job guys!
On 3/22/13 4:39 AM, "Marlon Pierce" <ma...@iu.edu> wrote:
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>Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
>
>
>Marlon
>
>
>On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
>> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
>>>
>>> [1] -
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
>>>
>>>
>Literature
>>
>> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
>>
>> Suresh
>>
>>> Thanks, Danushka
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
>>>> just stepping in.
>>>>
>>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, ³Scientific workflow: a survey
>>>> and research directions,² Parallel Processing and Applied
>>>> Mathematics, pp. 746753, 2008.
>>>>
>>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
>>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
>>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
>>>> Citeseer, 2006.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Danushka
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
>>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
>>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done a
>>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
>>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
>>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
>>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
>>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
>>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
>>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, ³Workflow
>>>>> engine for clouds,² Cloud Computing, Principles and
>>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
>>>>> Computing, pp. 321344, 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
>>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
>>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I
>>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
>>>>>> engines first and then
>>>>> study
>>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
>>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
>>>>>> Each prominent workflow
>>>>> engine
>>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
>>>>>> major
>>>>> abstraction is
>>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
>>>>>> prominent
>>>>> workflow
>>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
>>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
>>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
>>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Sanjaya
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
>>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
>>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
>>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
>>>>> relates
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> 4)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danushka
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
>>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HI All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>> significant
>>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
>>>>>>>> time to
>>>>> harness
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
>>>>>>>> individually and
>>>>> list
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
>>>>>>>> thoughts on the
>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shahani
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
>>>>> newair007@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the
>>>>>>>>> same project. We
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some
>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>> facts
>>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
>>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
>>>>>> Gateways
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4
>>>>>>>>> successful
>>>>> science
>>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD
>>>>>>>>> project has
>>>>>>> caused
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build
>>>>>>>>> science
>>>>> gateways.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
>>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
>>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
>>>>> work
>>>>>>> flow
>>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
>>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a
>>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And
>>>>>>>>> tried to figure
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We
>>>>>>>>> would like to
>>>>> have
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path
>>>>>>>>> determining
>>>>> what
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project.
>>>>>>>>> Your help is
>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank You !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&ur
>>>>>l=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4
>>>>>668681%26tag%3D1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in
>>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do
>>>>>>>>>> literature study on
>>>>>> Science
>>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of
>>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
>>>>> make
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will
>>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source
>>>>>>>>>> projects is
>>>>>>> cracking
>>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code,
>>>>>>>>>> going through
>>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing
>>>>>>>>>> lists of the
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first
>>>>>>>>>> list, please
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
>>>>>>>>>> like you will
>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Suresh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS
>>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
>>>>>>> Airavata.During
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow
>>>>>>>>>>> generation
>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
>>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
>>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
>>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
>>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University of
>>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Marlon Pierce <ma...@iu.edu>.
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Yes, +1, this is a good collection.
Marlon
On 3/22/13 7:37 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura
> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
>>
>> [1] -
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
>>
>>
Literature
>
> This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
>
> Suresh
>
>> Thanks, Danushka
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are
>>> just stepping in.
>>>
>>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey
>>> and research directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied
>>> Mathematics, pp. 746–753, 2008.
>>>
>>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D.
>>> Gannon, C. Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on
>>> the 2006 NSF Workshop on Challenges of Scientific Workflows.
>>> Citeseer, 2006.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Danushka
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
>>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic
>>>> details to start with workflow engines. Also they have done a
>>>> review on existing solutions for workflow applications and
>>>> their limitations with respect to scalability and on-demand
>>>> access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
>>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned
>>>> about this) which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid
>>>> workflow systems w.r.t their design, scheduling, information
>>>> retrieval, fault tolerant and data movement.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Pavithra.
>>>>
>>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow
>>>> engine for clouds,” Cloud Computing, Principles and
>>>> Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
>>>> Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
>>>>
>>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
>>>> Computing, Jia Yu and Rajkumar Buyya
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa
>>>> <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I
>>>>> think it is better to study general concepts of workflow
>>>>> engines first and then
>>>> study
>>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the
>>>>> challenges are different from business workflow engines).
>>>>> Each prominent workflow
>>>> engine
>>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while
>>>>> major
>>>> abstraction is
>>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of
>>>>> prominent
>>>> workflow
>>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of
>>>>> Apache OODT and used in several NASA missions and other
>>>>> research) . I have already some work on these items and
>>>>> would like to contribute them into wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Sanjaya
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Science Gateways 2. Workflow Engines 3.
>>>>>> Data/Compute-Intensive Computing 4. Challenges and
>>>>>> Opportunities in Science Gateways 5. Research Directions
>>>>>> (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
>>>> relates
>>>>> to
>>>>>> 4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danushka
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus
>>>>>> Weerawarana < shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have
>>>>>>> done
>>>>> significant
>>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is
>>>>>>> time to
>>>> harness
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done
>>>>>>> individually and
>>>> list
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your
>>>>>>> thoughts on the
>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shahani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
>>>> newair007@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the
>>>>>>>> same project. We
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some
>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>> facts
>>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper
>>>>>>>> 'TeraGrid Science
>>>>> Gateways
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4
>>>>>>>> successful
>>>> science
>>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD
>>>>>>>> project has
>>>>>> caused
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build
>>>>>>>> science
>>>> gateways.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework
>>>>>>>> for Distributed Applications and Computational
>>>>>>>> Workflows*' describes about some
>>>> work
>>>>>> flow
>>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc. And it says these are
>>>>>>>> tools to build science gateways. And we came to a
>>>>>>>> conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And
>>>>>>>> tried to figure
>>>>> out
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We
>>>>>>>> would like to
>>>> have
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path
>>>>>>>> determining
>>>> what
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project.
>>>>>>>> Your help is
>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank You !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in
>>>>>>>>> which Workflow
>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do
>>>>>>>>> literature study on
>>>>> Science
>>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of
>>>>>>>>> reference papers to
>>>> make
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will
>>>>>>>>> quickly realize the
>>>>> best
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source
>>>>>>>>> projects is
>>>>>> cracking
>>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code,
>>>>>>>>> going through
>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing
>>>>>>>>> lists of the
>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first
>>>>>>>>> list, please
>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students
>>>>>>>>> like you will
>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> your contributions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suresh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara
>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS
>>>>>>>>>> integration to the
>>>>>> Airavata.During
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow
>>>>>>>>>> generation
>>>> tools
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and Triana. We would
>>>>>>>>>> like if we can some details and
>>>>> points
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate*
>>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa* *Sri Lanka.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.* *Computer
>>>>>>> Scientist* Visiting Fellow, University of New South
>>>>>>> Wales, Australia. Visiting Scientist, Indiana
>>>>>>> University, USA. Visiting Lecturer, University of
>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
>
> [1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
> Literature
This is very good collection, Thanks Danushka.
Suresh
> Thanks,
> Danushka
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are just stepping
>> in.
>>
>> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey and
>> research directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics, pp.
>> 746–753, 2008.
>>
>> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D. Gannon, C.
>> Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on the 2006 NSF Workshop
>> on Challenges of Scientific Workflows. Citeseer, 2006.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Danushka
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
>> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
>>> with workflow engines.
>>> Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
>>> applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
>>> on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
>>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
>>> which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
>>> their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
>>> movement.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pavithra.
>>>
>>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
>>> clouds,” Cloud Computing,
>>> Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
>>> Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
>>>
>>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
>>> and Rajkumar Buyya
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
>>>> better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then
>>> study
>>>> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges are
>>>> different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow
>>> engine
>>>> comprise of several unique features and concepts while major
>>> abstraction is
>>>> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent
>>> workflow
>>>> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
>>>> used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
>>>> work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
>>>>
>>>> /Sanjaya
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>>>> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would say,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Science Gateways
>>>>> 2. Workflow Engines
>>>>> 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
>>>>> 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
>>>>> 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
>>> relates
>>>> to
>>>>> 4)
>>>>>
>>>>> Danushka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
>>>>> shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
>>>> significant
>>>>>> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to
>>> harness
>>>>> all
>>>>>> this background reading work that has been done individually and
>>> list
>>>> the
>>>>>> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
>>>>> categories
>>>>>> based on the work you have already completed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shahani
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
>>> newair007@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We
>>>>> looked
>>>>>>> some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
>>>> facts
>>>>>>> about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
>>>> Gateways
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful
>>> science
>>>>>>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
>>>>> caused
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science
>>> gateways.
>>>>> And
>>>>>>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
>>>>>>> Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
>>> work
>>>>> flow
>>>>>>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
>>>>>>> And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
>>>>>>> And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
>>>>> similar
>>>>>>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure
>>>> out
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to
>>> have
>>>>> some
>>>>>>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining
>>> what
>>>> is
>>>>>>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
>>>> really
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HI Harsha,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
>>> is
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
>>>> Science
>>>>>>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to
>>> make
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the
>>>> best
>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> to find out differences in features in open source projects is
>>>>> cracking
>>>>>>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
>>>> tools
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
>>>> keep
>>>>>>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
>>>> benefit
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> your contributions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suresh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>>> We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
>>>>> Airavata.During
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> research we have found some existing work flow generation
>>> tools
>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> Tarverna, Kepler ,
>>>>>>>>> Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
>>>> points
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Harsha Kumara*
>>>>>>>>> *Undergraduate*
>>>>>>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>>>>>>>>> *University of Moratuwa*
>>>>>>>>> *Sri Lanka.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
>>>>>> *Computer Scientist*
>>>>>> Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
>>>>>> Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
>>>>>> Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Shahani Markus Weerawarana <sh...@gmail.com>.
This is a very useful contribution.
Thank you Danushka, Sanjaya and Pavithra!
Cheers,
Shahani
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
>
> [1] -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
> Literature
>
> Thanks,
> Danushka
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are just stepping
> > in.
> >
> > [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey and
> > research directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics, pp.
> > 746–753, 2008.
> >
> > [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D. Gannon, C.
> > Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on the 2006 NSF Workshop
> > on Challenges of Scientific Workflows. Citeseer, 2006.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Danushka
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
> > pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
> >> with workflow engines.
> >> Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
> >> applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
> >> on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> >> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
> >> which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
> >> their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
> >> movement.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pavithra.
> >>
> >> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
> >> clouds,” Cloud Computing,
> >> Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> >> Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
> >>
> >> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
> >> and Rajkumar Buyya
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
> >> > better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then
> >> study
> >> > the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges
> are
> >> > different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow
> >> engine
> >> > comprise of several unique features and concepts while major
> >> abstraction is
> >> > workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent
> >> workflow
> >> > engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT
> and
> >> > used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already
> some
> >> > work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
> >> >
> >> > /Sanjaya
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> >> > danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I would say,
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Science Gateways
> >> > > 2. Workflow Engines
> >> > > 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
> >> > > 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
> >> > > 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
> >> relates
> >> > to
> >> > > 4)
> >> > >
> >> > > Danushka
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
> >> > > shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > HI All,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
> >> > significant
> >> > > > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to
> >> harness
> >> > > all
> >> > > > this background reading work that has been done individually and
> >> list
> >> > the
> >> > > > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> >> > > categories
> >> > > > based on the work you have already completed?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Shahani
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
> >> newair007@gmail.com
> >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project.
> We
> >> > > looked
> >> > > > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
> >> > facts
> >> > > > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
> >> > Gateways
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful
> >> science
> >> > > > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project
> has
> >> > > caused
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science
> >> gateways.
> >> > > And
> >> > > > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for
> Distributed
> >> > > > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
> >> work
> >> > > flow
> >> > > > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> >> > > > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> >> > > > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> >> > > similar
> >> > > > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to
> figure
> >> > out
> >> > > > what
> >> > > > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to
> >> have
> >> > > some
> >> > > > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining
> >> what
> >> > is
> >> > > > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
> >> > really
> >> > > > > appreciated.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank You !
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <
> smarru@apache.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > HI Harsha,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which
> Workflow
> >> is
> >> > a
> >> > > > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
> >> > Science
> >> > > > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to
> >> make
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > easy
> >> > > > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize
> the
> >> > best
> >> > > > way
> >> > > > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
> >> > > cracking
> >> > > > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going
> through
> >> > > > tutorials
> >> > > > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
> >> > tools
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list,
> please
> >> > keep
> >> > > > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
> >> > benefit
> >> > > > > from
> >> > > > > > your contributions.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Suresh
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <harsz89@gmail.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hi all!
> >> > > > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
> >> > > Airavata.During
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation
> >> tools
> >> > > like
> >> > > > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> >> > > > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
> >> > points
> >> > > > > about
> >> > > > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks!
> >> > > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> >> > > > > > > *Undergraduate*
> >> > > > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> >> > > > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> >> > > > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> >> > > > *Computer Scientist*
> >> > > > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> >> > > > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> >> > > > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pavithra Kulathilaka.
> >>
> >
> >
>
--
*Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
*Computer Scientist*
Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Danushka Menikkumbura <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Please find the wiki on related research literature at [1].
[1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRAVATA/Related+Research+
Literature
Thanks,
Danushka
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are just stepping
> in.
>
> [3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey and
> research directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics, pp.
> 746–753, 2008.
>
> [4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D. Gannon, C.
> Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on the 2006 NSF Workshop
> on Challenges of Scientific Workflows. Citeseer, 2006.
>
> Thanks,
> Danushka
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka <
> pavithrask@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
>> with workflow engines.
>> Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
>> applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
>> on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
>> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
>> which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
>> their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
>> movement.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pavithra.
>>
>> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
>> clouds,” Cloud Computing,
>> Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
>> Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
>>
>> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
>> and Rajkumar Buyya
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
>> > better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then
>> study
>> > the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges are
>> > different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow
>> engine
>> > comprise of several unique features and concepts while major
>> abstraction is
>> > workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent
>> workflow
>> > engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
>> > used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
>> > work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
>> >
>> > /Sanjaya
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
>> > danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I would say,
>> > >
>> > > 1. Science Gateways
>> > > 2. Workflow Engines
>> > > 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
>> > > 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
>> > > 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe
>> relates
>> > to
>> > > 4)
>> > >
>> > > Danushka
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
>> > > shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > HI All,
>> > > >
>> > > > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
>> > significant
>> > > > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to
>> harness
>> > > all
>> > > > this background reading work that has been done individually and
>> list
>> > the
>> > > > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>> > > >
>> > > > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
>> > > categories
>> > > > based on the work you have already completed?
>> > > >
>> > > > Shahani
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
>> newair007@gmail.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We
>> > > looked
>> > > > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
>> > facts
>> > > > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
>> > Gateways
>> > > > and
>> > > > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful
>> science
>> > > > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
>> > > caused
>> > > > to
>> > > > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science
>> gateways.
>> > > And
>> > > > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
>> > > > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
>> work
>> > > flow
>> > > > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
>> > > > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
>> > > > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
>> > > similar
>> > > > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure
>> > out
>> > > > what
>> > > > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to
>> have
>> > > some
>> > > > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining
>> what
>> > is
>> > > > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
>> > really
>> > > > > appreciated.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank You !
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > HI Harsha,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
>> is
>> > a
>> > > > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
>> > Science
>> > > > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to
>> make
>> > > it
>> > > > > easy
>> > > > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the
>> > best
>> > > > way
>> > > > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
>> > > cracking
>> > > > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
>> > > > tutorials
>> > > > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
>> > tools
>> > > > you
>> > > > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
>> > keep
>> > > > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
>> > benefit
>> > > > > from
>> > > > > > your contributions.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Suresh
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi all!
>> > > > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
>> > > Airavata.During
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation
>> tools
>> > > like
>> > > > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
>> > > > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
>> > points
>> > > > > about
>> > > > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
>> > > > > > > *Undergraduate*
>> > > > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>> > > > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
>> > > > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
>> > > > *Computer Scientist*
>> > > > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
>> > > > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
>> > > > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>>
>
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Danushka Menikkumbura <da...@gmail.com>.
I would also recommend [3] and [4] for those of you who are just stepping
in.
[3]A. Barker and J. Van Hemert, “Scientific workflow: a survey and research
directions,” Parallel Processing and Applied Mathematics, pp. 746–753, 2008.
[4]Y. Gil, E. Deelman, M. Ellisman, T. Fahringer, G. Fox, D. Gannon, C.
Goble, M. Livny, L. Moreau, and J. Myers, Report on the 2006 NSF Workshop
on Challenges of Scientific Workflows. Citeseer, 2006.
Thanks,
Danushka
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Pavithra Kulathilaka
<pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
> with workflow engines.
> Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
> applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
> on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
> refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
> which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
> their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
> movement.
>
> Regards,
> Pavithra.
>
> [1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
> clouds,” Cloud Computing,
> Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
> Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
>
> [2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
> and Rajkumar Buyya
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sanjayamrt@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
> > better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then study
> > the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges are
> > different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow engine
> > comprise of several unique features and concepts while major abstraction
> is
> > workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent
> workflow
> > engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
> > used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
> > work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
> >
> > /Sanjaya
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> > danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would say,
> > >
> > > 1. Science Gateways
> > > 2. Workflow Engines
> > > 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
> > > 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
> > > 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe relates
> > to
> > > 4)
> > >
> > > Danushka
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
> > > shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > HI All,
> > > >
> > > > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
> > significant
> > > > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to
> harness
> > > all
> > > > this background reading work that has been done individually and list
> > the
> > > > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> > > >
> > > > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> > > categories
> > > > based on the work you have already completed?
> > > >
> > > > Shahani
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <
> newair007@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We
> > > looked
> > > > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
> > facts
> > > > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
> > Gateways
> > > > and
> > > > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
> > > > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
> > > caused
> > > > to
> > > > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science
> gateways.
> > > And
> > > > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
> > > > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some
> work
> > > flow
> > > > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> > > > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> > > > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> > > similar
> > > > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure
> > out
> > > > what
> > > > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have
> > > some
> > > > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what
> > is
> > > > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
> > really
> > > > > appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank You !
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI Harsha,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
> is
> > a
> > > > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
> > Science
> > > > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to
> make
> > > it
> > > > > easy
> > > > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the
> > best
> > > > way
> > > > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
> > > cracking
> > > > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
> > > > tutorials
> > > > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
> > tools
> > > > you
> > > > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
> > keep
> > > > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
> > benefit
> > > > > from
> > > > > > your contributions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
> > > Airavata.During
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools
> > > like
> > > > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
> > points
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > > > > > *Undergraduate*
> > > > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> > > > *Computer Scientist*
> > > > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> > > > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> > > > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pavithra Kulathilaka.
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Pavithra Kulathilaka <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
One of a resource I referred was [1] which covers basic details to start
with workflow engines.
Also they have done a review on existing solutions for workflow
applications and their limitations with respect to scalability and
on-demand access. So I think this would be a great starting point. [1]
refers another research paper [2] (Chris has also mentioned about this)
which presents a detailed survey of existing Grid workflow systems w.r.t
their design, scheduling, information retrieval, fault tolerant and data
movement.
Regards,
Pavithra.
[1] S. Pandey, D. Karunamoorthy, and R. Buyya, “Workflow engine for
clouds,” Cloud Computing,
Principles and Paradigms, Wiley Series on Parallel and Distributed
Computing, pp. 321–344, 2011.
[2] A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing, Jia Yu
and Rajkumar Buyya
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Sanjaya Medonsa <sa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
> better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then study
> the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges are
> different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow engine
> comprise of several unique features and concepts while major abstraction is
> workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent workflow
> engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
> used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
> work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
>
> /Sanjaya
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
> danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would say,
> >
> > 1. Science Gateways
> > 2. Workflow Engines
> > 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
> > 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
> > 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe relates
> to
> > 4)
> >
> > Danushka
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
> > shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > HI All,
> > >
> > > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done
> significant
> > > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to harness
> > all
> > > this background reading work that has been done individually and list
> the
> > > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> > >
> > > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> > categories
> > > based on the work you have already completed?
> > >
> > > Shahani
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <newair007@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We
> > looked
> > > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting
> facts
> > > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science
> Gateways
> > > and
> > > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
> > > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
> > caused
> > > to
> > > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways.
> > And
> > > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
> > > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work
> > flow
> > > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> > > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> > > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> > similar
> > > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure
> out
> > > what
> > > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have
> > some
> > > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what
> is
> > > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is
> really
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thank You !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HI Harsha,
> > > > >
> > > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is
> a
> > > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on
> Science
> > > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make
> > it
> > > > easy
> > > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the
> best
> > > way
> > > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
> > cracking
> > > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
> > > tutorials
> > > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
> tools
> > > you
> > > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
> keep
> > > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
> benefit
> > > > from
> > > > > your contributions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
> > Airavata.During
> > > > the
> > > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools
> > like
> > > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and
> points
> > > > about
> > > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > > > > *Undergraduate*
> > > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> > > *Computer Scientist*
> > > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> > > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> > > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> > >
> >
>
--
Pavithra Kulathilaka.
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Sanjaya Medonsa <sa...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Danushka. When it comes to workflow engines I think it is
better to study general concepts of workflow engines first and then study
the prominent *Scientific* work flow engines (Some of the challenges are
different from business workflow engines). Each prominent workflow engine
comprise of several unique features and concepts while major abstraction is
workflows. I would like to add Apache OODT into list of prominent workflow
engines (Workflow processing components are key part of Apache OODT and
used in several NASA missions and other research) . I have already some
work on these items and would like to contribute them into wiki.
/Sanjaya
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Danushka Menikkumbura <
danushka.menikkumbura@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would say,
>
> 1. Science Gateways
> 2. Workflow Engines
> 3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
> 4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
> 5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe relates to
> 4)
>
> Danushka
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
> shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > HI All,
> >
> > There are a few postgraduate research students who have done significant
> > literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to harness
> all
> > this background reading work that has been done individually and list the
> > papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
> >
> > Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the
> categories
> > based on the work you have already completed?
> >
> > Shahani
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <newair007@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We
> looked
> > > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting facts
> > > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science Gateways
> > and
> > > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
> > > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has
> caused
> > to
> > > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways.
> And
> > > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
> > > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work
> flow
> > > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> > > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> > > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing
> similar
> > > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out
> > what
> > > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have
> some
> > > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what is
> > > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is really
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thank You !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > HI Harsha,
> > > >
> > > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
> > > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
> > > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make
> it
> > > easy
> > > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best
> > way
> > > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is
> cracking
> > > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
> > tutorials
> > > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools
> > you
> > > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
> > > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit
> > > from
> > > > your contributions.
> > > >
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
> Airavata.During
> > > the
> > > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools
> like
> > > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points
> > > about
> > > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > --
> > > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > > > *Undergraduate*
> > > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> > *Computer Scientist*
> > Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> > Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> > Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
> >
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Danushka Menikkumbura <da...@gmail.com>.
I would say,
1. Science Gateways
2. Workflow Engines
3. Data/Compute-Intensive Computing
4. Challenges and Opportunities in Science Gateways
5. Research Directions (Big Data, Provenance, Meta Data) (Maybe relates to
4)
Danushka
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <
shahani.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI All,
>
> There are a few postgraduate research students who have done significant
> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to harness all
> this background reading work that has been done individually and list the
> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>
> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the categories
> based on the work you have already completed?
>
> Shahani
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <newair007@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We looked
> > some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting facts
> > about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science Gateways
> and
> > Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
> > gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has caused
> to
> > the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways. And
> > the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
> > Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work flow
> > systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> > And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> > And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing similar
> > kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out
> what
> > is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have some
> > good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what is
> > AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is really
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thank You !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > HI Harsha,
> > >
> > > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
> > > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
> > > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it
> > easy
> > > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best
> way
> > > to find out differences in features in open source projects is cracking
> > > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
> tutorials
> > > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools
> you
> > > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
> > > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit
> > from
> > > your contributions.
> > >
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During
> > the
> > > > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
> > > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points
> > about
> > > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > --
> > > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > > *Undergraduate*
> > > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > > *Sri Lanka.*
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> *Computer Scientist*
> Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
Hi Shahani,
I totally agree. I think we should all combine the learning into wiki pages. We can grant karma to a contribution area on wiki for all students and then later mine all that documentation (vetted by the PMC) into official website documentation. As Chris pointed out there are workflow surveys and taxonomies.
We can either have elaborate technical reports or short questioner like [1].
Suresh
[1] - http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/swf-survey/
On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Shahani Markus Weerawarana <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI All,
>
> There are a few postgraduate research students who have done significant
> literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to harness all
> this background reading work that has been done individually and list the
> papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
>
> Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the categories
> based on the work you have already completed?
>
> Shahani
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <ne...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We looked
>> some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting facts
>> about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science Gateways and
>> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
>> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has caused to
>> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways. And
>> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
>> Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work flow
>> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
>> And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
>> And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing similar
>> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out what
>> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have some
>> good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what is
>> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is really
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thank You !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Harsha,
>>>
>>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
>>> component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
>>> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it
>> easy
>>> for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best way
>>> to find out differences in features in open source projects is cracking
>>> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through tutorials
>>> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools you
>>> are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
>>> sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit
>> from
>>> your contributions.
>>>
>>> Suresh
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During
>> the
>>>> research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
>>>> Tarverna, Kepler ,
>>>> Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points
>> about
>>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> --
>>>> *Harsha Kumara*
>>>> *Undergraduate*
>>>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>>>> *University of Moratuwa*
>>>> *Sri Lanka.*
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
> *Computer Scientist*
> Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
> Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
> Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Shahani Markus Weerawarana <sh...@gmail.com>.
HI All,
There are a few postgraduate research students who have done significant
literature reviews on science gateways etc. Maybe it is time to harness all
this background reading work that has been done individually and list the
papers (links) in categories on the Airavata website.
Danushka, Pavithra, and Sanjaya - what are your thoughts on the categories
based on the work you have already completed?
Shahani
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM, AMILA RANATUNGA <ne...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We looked
> some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting facts
> about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science Gateways and
> Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
> gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has caused to
> the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways. And
> the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
> Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work flow
> systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
> And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
> And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing similar
> kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out what
> is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have some
> good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what is
> AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is really
> appreciated.
>
> Thank You !
>
>
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > HI Harsha,
> >
> > Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
> > component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
> > Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it
> easy
> > for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best way
> > to find out differences in features in open source projects is cracking
> > open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through tutorials
> > and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools you
> > are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
> > sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit
> from
> > your contributions.
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> > On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During
> the
> > > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
> > > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points
> about
> > > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > --
> > > *Harsha Kumara*
> > > *Undergraduate*
> > > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > > *University of Moratuwa*
> > > *Sri Lanka.*
> >
> >
>
--
*Shahani Markus Weerawarana, Ph.D.*
*Computer Scientist*
Visiting Fellow, University of New South Wales, Australia.
Visiting Scientist, Indiana University, USA.
Visiting Lecturer, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka.
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by AMILA RANATUNGA <ne...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thank you for the reply. I am also working in the same project. We looked
some research papers science gateways. We found some interesting facts
about science gateways in the research paper 'TeraGrid Science Gateways and
Their Impact on Science' [1] which talks about 4 successful science
gateways including LEAD. And we got to know that LEAD project has caused to
the development of AIRAVATA which is used to build science gateways. And
the research paper '*Apache Airavata : A framework for Distributed
Applications and Computational Workflows*' describes about some work flow
systems Taverna, Triana ..etc.
And it says these are tools to build science gateways.
And we came to a conclusion that AIRAVATA, Taverna, Triana doing similar
kind of job (please correct me if I am wrong). And tried to figure out what
is so unique in AIRAVATA comparing to theses. We would like to have some
good references if we are moving in the wrong path determining what is
AIRAVATA. We are working full time in this project. Your help is really
appreciated.
Thank You !
[1]
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4668681&tag=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4668681%26tag%3D1
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
> HI Harsha,
>
> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
> component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
> Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it easy
> for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best way
> to find out differences in features in open source projects is cracking
> open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through tutorials
> and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools you
> are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
> sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit from
> your contributions.
>
> Suresh
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> > We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During the
> > research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
> > Tarverna, Kepler ,
> > Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points about
> > how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > *Harsha Kumara*
> > *Undergraduate*
> > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> > *University of Moratuwa*
> > *Sri Lanka.*
>
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Marlon Pierce <ma...@iu.edu>.
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Here's also a summary from 2007:
Yolanda Gil, Ewa Deelman, Mark H. Ellisman, Thomas Fahringer, Geoffrey
Fox, Dennis Gannon, Carole A. Goble, Miron Livny, Luc Moreau, Jim
Myers: Examining the Challenges of Scientific Workflows. IEEE Computer
40(12): 24-32 (2007)
You can probably find a free PDF from Google Scholar. I'm sure
Geoffrey Fox has a PDF up on his publication page.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Examining+the+Challenges+of+Scientific+Workflows.&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C15
Marlon
On 3/11/13 10:15 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> Great point Suresh. One other one I would make to help
> differentiate would be to check out Buyya's paper on A Taxonomy of
> Workflow Management Systems for Grid Computing:
>
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0503025.pdf
>
>
> Cheers, Chris
>
>
> On 3/11/13 4:19 AM, "Suresh Marru" <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> HI Harsha,
>>
>> Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow
>> is a component. A good place to start is to do literature study
>> on Science Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference
>> papers to make it easy for you to get an understanding on. You
>> will quickly realize the best way to find out differences in
>> features in open source projects is cracking open the code. So I
>> suggest downloading the code, going through tutorials and asking
>> questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools you are
>> comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep
>> sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
>> benefit from your contributions.
>>
>> Suresh
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the
>>> Airavata.During the research we have found some existing work
>>> flow generation tools like Tarverna, Kepler , Pegasus and
>>> Triana. We would like if we can some details and points about
>>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>>
>>> Thanks! -- *Harsha Kumara* *Undergraduate* *Department of
>>> Computer Science and Engineering* *University of Moratuwa* *Sri
>>> Lanka.*
>>
>
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Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Guys,
Great point Suresh. One other one I would make to help differentiate would
be to check out
Buyya's paper on A Taxonomy of Workflow Management Systems for Grid
Computing:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0503025.pdf
Cheers,
Chris
On 3/11/13 4:19 AM, "Suresh Marru" <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>HI Harsha,
>
>Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a
>component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science
>Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it
>easy for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the
>best way to find out differences in features in open source projects is
>cracking open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through
>tutorials and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the
>tools you are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please
>keep sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will
>benefit from your contributions.
>
>Suresh
>
>On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>> We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During
>>the
>> research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
>> Tarverna, Kepler ,
>> Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points
>>about
>> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> *Harsha Kumara*
>> *Undergraduate*
>> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
>> *University of Moratuwa*
>> *Sri Lanka.*
>
Re: Uniqueness of Airavata
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
HI Harsha,
Airavata is a Distributed Computing framework in which Workflow is a component. A good place to start is to do literature study on Science Gateways. We will need to compile a set of reference papers to make it easy for you to get an understanding on. You will quickly realize the best way to find out differences in features in open source projects is cracking open the code. So I suggest downloading the code, going through tutorials and asking questions on the corresponding mailing lists of the tools you are comparing against. You identified a good first list, please keep sharing your learnings so future users/students like you will benefit from your contributions.
Suresh
On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Harsha Kumara <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all!
> We are doing research on OGC's WPS integration to the Airavata.During the
> research we have found some existing work flow generation tools like
> Tarverna, Kepler ,
> Pegasus and Triana. We would like if we can some details and points about
> how Apache Airavata is differ from those tools?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> *Harsha Kumara*
> *Undergraduate*
> *Department of Computer Science and Engineering*
> *University of Moratuwa*
> *Sri Lanka.*