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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Eugene <j....@infosatgeomatica.com> on 2004/09/26 20:51:33 UTC
Re: getting started
Hello QM, I have my server running Apache+Tomcat+GIS server+Oracle+Access DBs (they
are connected trough GIS server for different projects) for almost one year, I've
explained my professional specification to Atishay Kumar. My objective its to make
work one or three applications and to make Tomcat to serve jsp pages with Apache. But
it was really hard to make it work together as I say before. I read the Java docs -
the thing that I'm not Java programmer, so its more then enough for me to make
software work as official documentation says. If I have problems with balancers,
filters, connectors or other - I'm writing to support, because they are designers,
not I am. The point is I'm really TOMCAT USER, not developer, not Java programmer, so
if its possible to use Tomcat with other servers or for different purposes, its would
be great to have this information in documentation. I want to admit that Apache and
Tomcat docs are perfect and pretty clear, but for example if I want to start learn
jsp and install Tomcat on my computer that already have Apache - its logically that I
want to know how they should work together, also I want to start from basics, not
just from precompiled jsps. You can say that Tomcat wasnt designed for learning
purposes - I agree, but if its possible somehow to give basic knowledge - it would be
great. At last - I've started to learn about Tomcat when I was need it for work, now
I'm starting to learn Java and jsp, so not every person here starts from java
programmer and then continues as Tomcat admin.
Thanks.
Sunday, September 26, 2004, 9:56:07 AM, you wrote:
> [I've changed your subject line to start a new thread]
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:47:19AM -0300, Eugene wrote:
> : Hello, also it would be great if they can give some information where
> : and how to place jsp pages if somebody want to use Tomcat with Apache.
> Anywhere you want.
> : But tell the truth I never seen clear instructions how exactly newbie
> : can deploy the page or application. All books starts from
> : "HelloWorld.." but there no any word about ROOT, about how to use
> : custom directory under Apache or without it and things like this.
> Likely, there's no one catch-all doc because
> Apache httpd != Tomcat != Java webapps
> They're all separate topics with their own learning curves. Trying to
> run them all together at once, when you're just starting out, is asking
> for a headache.
> To start with Java webapps, read the servlet spec (search java.sun.com
> for the doc). That details what a container (such as Tomcat) must
> provide to be spec-compliant, as well as the basics of assembling a
> webapp. Yes, it's dry in places, but it's not meant to be movie-script
> material. ;)
> Next, follow some tutorials on Java webapps. Sun.com has some, there
> are others all over the web.
> Once you get that down pat, return to the Tomcat setup issues.
> Finally, review the Tomcat "connector" documentation (mod_jk, jk2) to
> connect Apache to Tomcat.
> -QM
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Re: getting started
Posted by Eugene <j....@infosatgeomatica.com>.
Hello Chong, thank you. I have this book like 6 month(maybe less) in my pdf library
collection:) Somebody here in list have suggested to read it so I've download it to
be able to print it. BTW, its very useful. Thank you!
Monday, September 27, 2004, 9:47:30 AM, you wrote:
> Hi Eugene,
> I've written a Step-by-Step on Linux, with help from some generous individuals. It can be found here :
> http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/book1.html
> Hope this is useful to you. This is Open Source documentation, which means no warranty
> is offered. You don't need to be a Java programmer to follow the instructions here.
> Hope this helps.
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Re: getting started
Posted by Chong Yu Meng <ch...@cymulacrum.net>.
Hi Eugene,
I've written a Step-by-Step on Linux, with help from some generous individuals. It can be found here :
http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/book1.html
Hope this is useful to you. This is Open Source documentation, which means no warranty
is offered. You don't need to be a Java programmer to follow the instructions here.
Hope this helps.
Eugene wrote:
>Hello QM, I have my server running Apache+Tomcat+GIS server+Oracle+Access DBs (they
>are connected trough GIS server for different projects) for almost one year, I've
>explained my professional specification to Atishay Kumar. My objective its to make
>work one or three applications and to make Tomcat to serve jsp pages with Apache. But
>it was really hard to make it work together as I say before. I read the Java docs -
>the thing that I'm not Java programmer, so its more then enough for me to make
>software work as official documentation says. If I have problems with balancers,
>filters, connectors or other - I'm writing to support, because they are designers,
>not I am. The point is I'm really TOMCAT USER, not developer, not Java programmer, so
>if its possible to use Tomcat with other servers or for different purposes, its would
>be great to have this information in documentation. I want to admit that Apache and
>Tomcat docs are perfect and pretty clear, but for example if I want to start learn
>jsp and install Tomcat on my computer that already have Apache - its logically that I
>want to know how they should work together, also I want to start from basics, not
>just from precompiled jsps. You can say that Tomcat wasnt designed for learning
>purposes - I agree, but if its possible somehow to give basic knowledge - it would be
>great. At last - I've started to learn about Tomcat when I was need it for work, now
>I'm starting to learn Java and jsp, so not every person here starts from java
>programmer and then continues as Tomcat admin.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [OT}getting started
Posted by John Najarian <j-...@earthlink.net>.
Eugene,
This is off topic. We ran applications with Access. This is
for some side work we (a couple of friends & I) we experienced
substantial degradation as the Access database grew.
We ported the database to MySql just this weekend and already
the response has improved measurably. The front end was changed
from Access to java and that took the most time. None of us had
any experience with MySql.
The biggest hurdles we had was finding the right components for
MySql and rewriting the front end in Java. Another thing was we
could rid ourselves of some program functions that Access required
which are provided by MySql.
You might consider switching over from Access to MySql.
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From: Eugene [mailto:j.subscribe@infosatgeomatica.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: getting started
Hello QM, I have my server running Apache+Tomcat+GIS server+Oracle+Access
DBs (they
are connected trough GIS server for different projects) for almost one
year, I've
explained my professional specification to Atishay Kumar. My objective
its to make
work one or three applications and to make Tomcat to serve jsp pages with
Apache. But
it was really hard to make it work together as I say before. I read the
Java docs -
the thing that I'm not Java programmer, so its more then enough for
me to make
software work as official documentation says. If I have problems with
balancers,
filters, connectors or other - I'm writing to support, because they are
designers,
not I am. The point is I'm really TOMCAT USER, not developer, not Java
programmer, so
if its possible to use Tomcat with other servers or for different purposes,
its would
be great to have this information in documentation. I want to admit that
Apache and
Tomcat docs are perfect and pretty clear, but for example if I want to
start learn
jsp and install Tomcat on my computer that already have Apache - its
logically that I
want to know how they should work together, also I want to start from
basics, not
just from precompiled jsps. You can say that Tomcat wasnt designed for
learning
purposes - I agree, but if its possible somehow to give basic knowledge - it
would be
great. At last - I've started to learn about Tomcat when I was need it for
work, now
I'm starting to learn Java and jsp, so not every person here starts
from java
programmer and then continues as Tomcat admin.
Thanks.
Sunday, September 26, 2004, 9:56:07 AM, you wrote:
> [I've changed your subject line to start a new thread]
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:47:19AM -0300, Eugene wrote:
> : Hello, also it would be great if they can give some information where
> : and how to place jsp pages if somebody want to use Tomcat with Apache.
> Anywhere you want.
> : But tell the truth I never seen clear instructions how exactly newbie
> : can deploy the page or application. All books starts from
> : "HelloWorld.." but there no any word about ROOT, about how to use
> : custom directory under Apache or without it and things like this.
> Likely, there's no one catch-all doc because
> Apache httpd != Tomcat != Java webapps
> They're all separate topics with their own learning curves. Trying to
> run them all together at once, when you're just starting out, is asking
> for a headache.
> To start with Java webapps, read the servlet spec (search java.sun.com
> for the doc). That details what a container (such as Tomcat) must
> provide to be spec-compliant, as well as the basics of assembling a
> webapp. Yes, it's dry in places, but it's not meant to be movie-script
> material. ;)
> Next, follow some tutorials on Java webapps. Sun.com has some, there
> are others all over the web.
> Once you get that down pat, return to the Tomcat setup issues.
> Finally, review the Tomcat "connector" documentation (mod_jk, jk2) to
> connect Apache to Tomcat.
> -QM
--
Best regards,
Eugene mailto:j.subscribe@infosatgeomatica.com
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