Release Management

["Bradford, Jeff L" <JB...@amfam.com>]

One of the issues we have run into with previous open source app servers
is the lack of a fast migration path from one version to the next.  It
is always an unzip and then a manual movement of the needed app specific
info and server config while keeping in mind changes to DTDs as well.
Keeping a large development shop on the same version of an app server
locally and on our various testing tiers is a major undertaking.
Therefore, do you have any plans or would you consider assembling some
type of auto-update executable, script or an Eclipse type of Software
Updates option to ease this pain between major and minor versions.
 
Thanks,
Jeff

Re: Release Management

[Sachin Patel <sp...@gmail.com>]

FYI The eclipse update manager can be run headlessly and it can be  
used not just to install "features/plugins" but it can be used to  
install any type of archive and to any target with the use of custom  
InstallHandlers so technically it could be used to update G. I don't  
know offhand how much a standalone update manager pulls in and how  
much overhead there would be, but I think its something definitely to  
look into.

- sachin



On Mar 27, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> We are constantly kicking around ideas of how to improve the user  
> experience. It sounds like your primary concern is updates and  
> syncronization when running in Eclipse or another IDE.  Is this  
> correct?  Do you have requirements for runtime updates as well?
>
> Bradford, Jeff L wrote:
>> One of the issues we have run into with previous open source app  
>> servers
>> is the lack of a fast migration path from one version to the  
>> next.  It
>> is always an unzip and then a manual movement of the needed app  
>> specific
>> info and server config while keeping in mind changes to DTDs as well.
>> Keeping a large development shop on the same version of an app server
>> locally and on our various testing tiers is a major undertaking.
>> Therefore, do you have any plans or would you consider assembling  
>> some
>> type of auto-update executable, script or an Eclipse type of Software
>> Updates option to ease this pain between major and minor versions.
>>  Thanks,
>> Jeff

Re: Release Management

[Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>]

Jeff,

We are constantly kicking around ideas of how to improve the user experience. 
It sounds like your primary concern is updates and syncronization when running 
in Eclipse or another IDE.  Is this correct?  Do you have requirements for 
runtime updates as well?

Bradford, Jeff L wrote:
> One of the issues we have run into with previous open source app servers
> is the lack of a fast migration path from one version to the next.  It
> is always an unzip and then a manual movement of the needed app specific
> info and server config while keeping in mind changes to DTDs as well.
> Keeping a large development shop on the same version of an app server
> locally and on our various testing tiers is a major undertaking.
> Therefore, do you have any plans or would you consider assembling some
> type of auto-update executable, script or an Eclipse type of Software
> Updates option to ease this pain between major and minor versions.
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>