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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Steve Kirk <to...@web-startup.co.uk> on 2005/05/20 15:14:17 UTC
What happened to the searchable list archive?
It's been a few months since I've been active on the list, and the list
archive seems to have changed in that time, could someone please advise?
I used to search the list archives here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=tomcat-user@jakarta.a
pache.org
But that archive appears to contain very few of the current messages (e.g.
only 7 from April, none at all for this month), is there a reason for that?
It appears to have gone quiet after Jan 2005 for some reason, see here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listName=tomcat-user@jakart
a.apache.org
I see that there is an archive here now
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user
but it doesn't appear to be searchable...?
Of course we can use google site search to search this list, but it's not
quite the same thing because you can't select a list to search. Also the
thread browsing is not as easy from this archive, once you have found a post
via google.
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RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by Steve Kirk <to...@web-startup.co.uk>.
Hi Mark,
Eyebrowse was the place that I used to rely on for searching, when I was
active on the list up until a few months back. When I returned to the list
last week, I found that eyebrowse no longer seemed to be in use, hence I
checked out the official TC site to see what might now replace it.
I started here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html
Then clicked "mailing lists" towards the bottom of the left hand menu, which
took me here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
And from there I scrolled down to the "Table of Contents" section and
clicked the "Tomcat" link near the bottom of the page, which took me here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Tomcat
Finally, from there I clicked "archive" under the list of tomcat-user links,
which took me here, which is what I think you are calling ASF, and what I
was referring to as "the official archive":
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user
The page above is fine for browsing archived messages, but I can't see a
search link like there used to be on eyebrowse. Clearly you can use google
to site-search these archive pages, like you can on any site, but it's a
little unwieldy to use, hence why I started this thread.
In going through this all again so that I could quote the links above, I now
see that Marc's site and mail-archives are both already linked at a high
level from the generic apache mail archive page(
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html ), so apologies for not seeing
those earlier. However, I didn't spot this the first few times I looked, so
I'd still suggest that in the interests of user friendliness, it might be
worth linking from the TC pages at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat more
directly to the search pages that I mentioned in my last post, as well as
any others, given that the "official" archive page does not seem to have its
own search.
Hope this helps,
Steve.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday 22 May 2005 21:18
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
>
> Steve Kirk wrote:
> > If anyone involved in producing the Tomcat project
> documentation is reading
> > this, I would suggest maybe linking these sites from the
> official mailing
> > list pages, as alternatives to the official archive?
>
> Which pages are you talking about? If you can give me a URL I
> can look
> into getting it changed.
>
> For the record, eyebrowse is now disabled and ASF has moved over to
> mod_mbox (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/)
>
> Mark
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Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Steve Kirk wrote:
> If anyone involved in producing the Tomcat project documentation is reading
> this, I would suggest maybe linking these sites from the official mailing
> list pages, as alternatives to the official archive?
Which pages are you talking about? If you can give me a URL I can look
into getting it changed.
For the record, eyebrowse is now disabled and ASF has moved over to
mod_mbox (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/)
Mark
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RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by Steve Kirk <to...@web-startup.co.uk>.
GB developer, Robert and Tomi, thanks very much for pointing me to these
search sites. I was not aware of any of them before, despite having
developed on TC for several years. Perhaps there are more out there.
If anyone involved in producing the Tomcat project documentation is reading
this, I would suggest maybe linking these sites from the official mailing
list pages, as alternatives to the official archive? I say this because,
with all due respect to those who voluntarily give their time to the
project, these search sites add search features do not seem to be currently
available from the official site pages. I think most would agree that in
general it's better to have people search existing Q&A rather than repost
the same Q, and these sites seem to provide a good way to help people do
that.
> -----Original Message 1 -----
> From: GB Developer [mailto:gb1071nx@globallyboundless.com]
> Sent: Friday 20 May 2005 18:05
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
>
> I like marc.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2
>
>
> -----Original Message 2 -----
> From: Robert r. Sanders [mailto:robert.sanders@ipov.net]
> Sent: Saturday 21 May 2005 04:27
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
>
> You can also use: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
> -----Original Message 3 -----
> From: tomi (sent by Nabble.com) [mailto:lists@nabble.com]
> Sent: Saturday 21 May 2005 07:12
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
> Nabble is also archiving this list and has a good search:
> http://www.nabble.com/Tomcat---User-f342.html
>
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Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by "tomi (sent by Nabble.com)" <li...@nabble.com>.
Nabble is also archiving this list and has a good search:
http://www.nabble.com/Tomcat---User-f342.html
--
Sent from the Tomcat - User forum at Nabble.com:
http://www.nabble.com/What-happened-to-the-searchable-list-archive--t21400.html#a61509
Re: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by "Robert r. Sanders" <ro...@ipov.net>.
You can also use: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
I tend to like its interface a little bit better.
Steve Kirk wrote:
>Thanks - great site. Just what I was looking for.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: GB Developer [mailto:gb1071nx@globallyboundless.com]
>>Sent: Friday 20 May 2005 18:05
>>To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>>Subject: RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>>
>>
>>I like marc.
>>
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Steve Kirk [mailto:tomcat-user@web-startup.co.uk]
>>>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:14 AM
>>>To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>>Subject: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's been a few months since I've been active on the list,
>>>and the list archive seems to have changed in that time,
>>>could someone please advise?
>>>
>>>I used to search the list archives here:
>>>http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=tomcat-
>>>
>>>
>>user@jakarta.a
>>pache.org
>>
>>But that archive appears to contain very few of the current
>>messages (e.g.
>>only 7 from April, none at all for this month), is there a
>>reason for that?
>>It appears to have gone quiet after Jan 2005 for some reason,
>>see here:
>>http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listName=tomc
>>
>>
>at-user@jakart
>a.apache.org
>
>I see that there is an archive here now
>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user
>but it doesn't appear to be searchable...?
>
>Of course we can use google site search to search this list, but it's not
>quite the same thing because you can't select a list to search. Also the
>thread browsing is not as easy from this archive, once you have found a post
>via google.
>
>
>
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RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by Steve Kirk <to...@web-startup.co.uk>.
Thanks - great site. Just what I was looking for.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GB Developer [mailto:gb1071nx@globallyboundless.com]
> Sent: Friday 20 May 2005 18:05
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
>
> I like marc.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Kirk [mailto:tomcat-user@web-startup.co.uk]
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:14 AM
> > To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: What happened to the searchable list archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > It's been a few months since I've been active on the list,
> > and the list archive seems to have changed in that time,
> > could someone please advise?
> >
> > I used to search the list archives here:
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=tomcat-
> user@jakarta.a
> pache.org
>
> But that archive appears to contain very few of the current
> messages (e.g.
> only 7 from April, none at all for this month), is there a
> reason for that?
> It appears to have gone quiet after Jan 2005 for some reason,
> see here:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listName=tomc
at-user@jakart
a.apache.org
I see that there is an archive here now
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user
but it doesn't appear to be searchable...?
Of course we can use google site search to search this list, but it's not
quite the same thing because you can't select a list to search. Also the
thread browsing is not as easy from this archive, once you have found a post
via google.
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RE: What happened to the searchable list archive?
Posted by GB Developer <gb...@globallyboundless.com>.
I like marc.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Kirk [mailto:tomcat-user@web-startup.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:14 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: What happened to the searchable list archive?
>
>
>
> It's been a few months since I've been active on the list,
> and the list archive seems to have changed in that time,
> could someone please advise?
>
> I used to search the list archives here:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=tomcat-
user@jakarta.a
pache.org
But that archive appears to contain very few of the current messages (e.g.
only 7 from April, none at all for this month), is there a reason for that?
It appears to have gone quiet after Jan 2005 for some reason, see here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listName=tomcat-user@jakart
a.apache.org
I see that there is an archive here now
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tomcat-user
but it doesn't appear to be searchable...?
Of course we can use google site search to search this list, but it's not
quite the same thing because you can't select a list to search. Also the
thread browsing is not as easy from this archive, once you have found a post
via google.
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