SOAP improvements.

[aliya khan <al...@hotmail.com>]

Hi
what improvement can be made to the soap protocol?
& what is the greatest weakness of this protocol?

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Re: SOAP improvements.

[Anne Thomas Manes <an...@manes.net>]

Daniel is talking about the Apache SOAP implementation, not the SOAP
protocol, so I'll answer in terms of the protocol.

There are a number of ambiguities and inaccuracies in the SOAP 1.1
specification -- most of which have been resolved in the new SOAP 1.2
specification [1].

This biggest issue that I have with SOAP )both 1.1 and 1.2) is that it has
too many options. I'd prefer to do away with SOAP encoding and the RPC
convention entirely (only support document/literal). I'd also like to see
some guidelines for how to map language structures to XML structures -- but
I'd say that this is an area for the language-specific standards groups, not
the SOAP protocol.

I'd also like to see some formal standards for dealing with attachments --
which may be formalized by the SOAP 1.2 attachment feature.

I'd say that the only serious, unavoidable disadvantage to the SOAP protocol
is the issue of performance-intensive XML processing. It is an inherent
attribute of the SOAP protocol. It takes lots of cycles and imposes lots of
latency, but the advantages of using XML encoding far outweigh the
disadvantages of XML processing overhead.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/

Best regards,
Anne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Zhang" <zh...@clinicaltools.com>
To: <so...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: SOAP improvements.


> SOAP weakness contains but not limited to:
> -  Not support WSDL
> -  Use DOM instead of SAX(AXIS improved on this)
> -  Poor support for layered architectures
>
> aliya khan wrote:
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> >
> > Hi
> > what improvement can be made to the soap protocol?
> > & what is the greatest weakness of this protocol?
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Re: SOAP improvements.

[Daniel Zhang <zh...@clinicaltools.com>]

SOAP weakness contains but not limited to:
-  Not support WSDL
-  Use DOM instead of SAX(AXIS improved on this)
-  Poor support for layered architectures

aliya khan wrote:

>
>
> Hi
> what improvement can be made to the soap protocol?
> & what is the greatest weakness of this protocol?
>
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Re: SOAP improvements.

[Vishal Shah <sh...@yahoo.com>]

One of the weekness I think of , is that SOAP msg requires to encode/decode the message at each point.
 
Vishal

aliya khan <al...@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi
what improvement can be made to the soap protocol?
& what is the greatest weakness of this protocol?

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