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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> on 2012/08/12 20:29:41 UTC
Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>> The following projects haven't signed off on the copyright checklist item:
>>
>> 2009-02-09 kato
>> 2009-02-13 stonehenge
>> 2009-05-13 socialsite
>> 2010-05-19 amber
>> 2010-09-05 nuvem
>> 2010-11-12 kitty
>> 2010-11-24 stanbol
>> 2011-06-13 openofficeorg
>>
>> Said checklist item is:
>>
>> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
>> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
>> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
>
> IIRC, there was no code grant/donation for Kitty. So, there was no code grant. If that means I should indicate the 'papers have been received', I can do that.
Thanks Kevan :)
I've updated kitty.xml to say n/a rather than a date as that's the
method that's been used in the past to identify no need for
grant/donation.
Hen
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Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
OK, there's a grant filed. It has an MD5 in it. Ant linked to it. An
MD5 is not much help in matching the contents of svn to the contents
of the granted zip file, but I'll poke around for any other large
commits, and, if none exist, do as suggested.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2012, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Just because it was released doesn't mean that it correctly did that.
>>> >
>>> > Need to confirm that all copyright owners of any pre-Apache code
>>> > either signed ICLA/grants with us, or that the source was already
>>> > licensed under a category A license.
>>>
>>> I volunteered to deal with all this as an expansion of a Shepherd
>>> assignment. I confess that I'm feeling a bit whelmed.
>>>
>>
>> FWIW, here's how I'd approach this:
>>
>> * Look at the original Kato proposal (
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KatoProposal) for insight on what
>> pre-Apache IP was supposed to be transferred to us.
>> * Check the early Kato svn history for commits containing that IP (see
>> especially revision 754956,
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=754956).
>> * Follow the pointers to the relevant records under
>> /repos/private/documents to verify that the mentioned paperwork is in place.
>> * If it indeed is, mark the IP as cleared on the Kato status page.
>> * If it isn't, consider whether the ICLA on file for the committer who
>> submitted the IP is sufficient to grant as the rights to keep the code.
>> * Based on all the above, make an informed judgement call on whether we can
>> keep the code in svn or not.
>>
>> I hope this helps! If still needed, I'd be happy to help out in a few weeks
>> when I'm back from vacation.
>
> Oops - sorry Benson. I hadn't realized you had as much historical
> knowledge as I have :) Let me know if I can help.
>
> Jukka's advice is great :)
>
> Hen
>
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Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2012, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>> > Just because it was released doesn't mean that it correctly did that.
>> >
>> > Need to confirm that all copyright owners of any pre-Apache code
>> > either signed ICLA/grants with us, or that the source was already
>> > licensed under a category A license.
>>
>> I volunteered to deal with all this as an expansion of a Shepherd
>> assignment. I confess that I'm feeling a bit whelmed.
>>
>
> FWIW, here's how I'd approach this:
>
> * Look at the original Kato proposal (
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KatoProposal) for insight on what
> pre-Apache IP was supposed to be transferred to us.
> * Check the early Kato svn history for commits containing that IP (see
> especially revision 754956,
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=754956).
> * Follow the pointers to the relevant records under
> /repos/private/documents to verify that the mentioned paperwork is in place.
> * If it indeed is, mark the IP as cleared on the Kato status page.
> * If it isn't, consider whether the ICLA on file for the committer who
> submitted the IP is sufficient to grant as the rights to keep the code.
> * Based on all the above, make an informed judgement call on whether we can
> keep the code in svn or not.
>
> I hope this helps! If still needed, I'd be happy to help out in a few weeks
> when I'm back from vacation.
Oops - sorry Benson. I hadn't realized you had as much historical
knowledge as I have :) Let me know if I can help.
Jukka's advice is great :)
Hen
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Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Just because it was released doesn't mean that it correctly did that.
> >
> > Need to confirm that all copyright owners of any pre-Apache code
> > either signed ICLA/grants with us, or that the source was already
> > licensed under a category A license.
>
> I volunteered to deal with all this as an expansion of a Shepherd
> assignment. I confess that I'm feeling a bit whelmed.
>
FWIW, here's how I'd approach this:
* Look at the original Kato proposal (
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KatoProposal) for insight on what
pre-Apache IP was supposed to be transferred to us.
* Check the early Kato svn history for commits containing that IP (see
especially revision 754956,
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=754956).
* Follow the pointers to the relevant records under
/repos/private/documents to verify that the mentioned paperwork is in place.
* If it indeed is, mark the IP as cleared on the Kato status page.
* If it isn't, consider whether the ICLA on file for the committer who
submitted the IP is sufficient to grant as the rights to keep the code.
* Based on all the above, make an informed judgement call on whether we can
keep the code in svn or not.
I hope this helps! If still needed, I'd be happy to help out in a few weeks
when I'm back from vacation.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kato.html should have a check mark for:
>
> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
>
> Just because it was released doesn't mean that it correctly did that.
>
> Need to confirm that all copyright owners of any pre-Apache code
> either signed ICLA/grants with us, or that the source was already
> licensed under a category A license.
I volunteered to deal with all this as an expansion of a Shepherd
assignment. I confess that I'm feeling a bit whelmed.
>
> Hen
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Benson Margulies
> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Henri,
>>
>> Ant pointed out that Kato released. Where is the signoff you are looking at?
>>
>> --benson
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The following projects haven't signed off on the copyright checklist item:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009-02-09 kato
>>>>> 2009-02-13 stonehenge
>>>>> 2009-05-13 socialsite
>>>>> 2010-05-19 amber
>>>>> 2010-09-05 nuvem
>>>>> 2010-11-12 kitty
>>>>> 2010-11-24 stanbol
>>>>> 2011-06-13 openofficeorg
>>>>>
>>>>> Said checklist item is:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
>>>>> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
>>>>> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, there was no code grant/donation for Kitty. So, there was no code grant. If that means I should indicate the 'papers have been received', I can do that.
>>>
>>> Thanks Kevan :)
>>>
>>> I've updated kitty.xml to say n/a rather than a date as that's the
>>> method that's been used in the past to identify no need for
>>> grant/donation.
>>>
>>> Hen
>>>
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Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kato.html should have a check mark for:
"Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
Just because it was released doesn't mean that it correctly did that.
Need to confirm that all copyright owners of any pre-Apache code
either signed ICLA/grants with us, or that the source was already
licensed under a category A license.
Hen
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Benson Margulies
<bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Henri,
>
> Ant pointed out that Kato released. Where is the signoff you are looking at?
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>
>>>> The following projects haven't signed off on the copyright checklist item:
>>>>
>>>> 2009-02-09 kato
>>>> 2009-02-13 stonehenge
>>>> 2009-05-13 socialsite
>>>> 2010-05-19 amber
>>>> 2010-09-05 nuvem
>>>> 2010-11-12 kitty
>>>> 2010-11-24 stanbol
>>>> 2011-06-13 openofficeorg
>>>>
>>>> Said checklist item is:
>>>>
>>>> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
>>>> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
>>>> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
>>>
>>> IIRC, there was no code grant/donation for Kitty. So, there was no code grant. If that means I should indicate the 'papers have been received', I can do that.
>>
>> Thanks Kevan :)
>>
>> I've updated kitty.xml to say n/a rather than a date as that's the
>> method that's been used in the past to identify no need for
>> grant/donation.
>>
>> Hen
>>
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Re: Old projects with incomplete copyright diligence
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Henri,
Ant pointed out that Kato released. Where is the signoff you are looking at?
--benson
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>>> The following projects haven't signed off on the copyright checklist item:
>>>
>>> 2009-02-09 kato
>>> 2009-02-13 stonehenge
>>> 2009-05-13 socialsite
>>> 2010-05-19 amber
>>> 2010-09-05 nuvem
>>> 2010-11-12 kitty
>>> 2010-11-24 stanbol
>>> 2011-06-13 openofficeorg
>>>
>>> Said checklist item is:
>>>
>>> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
>>> been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the
>>> package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. "
>>
>> IIRC, there was no code grant/donation for Kitty. So, there was no code grant. If that means I should indicate the 'papers have been received', I can do that.
>
> Thanks Kevan :)
>
> I've updated kitty.xml to say n/a rather than a date as that's the
> method that's been used in the past to identify no need for
> grant/donation.
>
> Hen
>
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