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Posted to droids-dev@incubator.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> on 2014/08/07 00:02:41 UTC
Name search
Hi Droids!
I noticed on your quarterly you listed name search as a big issue and a
little intimidating. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to help get you
through the process. Just let me know.
Thanks,
John
Re: Name search
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
While I may have described it wrong (my opinion), the initial search
results show the name "droids" as overly used, with no mention of the
current project anywhere near the top.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:15 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The name search guide is here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
> process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
> personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
> on the podling private list.
>
> ...ant
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
> > stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
> > commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
> >
> > I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
> > suite.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
> >>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
> search
> >>>> came into existence.
> >>>>
> >>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
> >>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
> >>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
> >>> of the Star Wars sense.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --tim
> >>>
> >>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
> >>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
> >>
> >> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
> >> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not.
> What do
> >> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
> name?
> >> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >> Richard
> >>
>
Re: Name search
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <sc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ant,
please try again. Was off in vacations so the moderation may got stucked
on my end.
salu2
On 08/25/2014 08:36 AM, ant elder wrote:
> How's this coming?
>
> The quickest way I find is to email apmail@apache.org, CC'ing the private
> list asking to be added as a moderator. Should get actioned within the day.
>
> HTH
>
> ...ant
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Don't know. I know that I'm not, but I will work with infra to get myself
>> added as a moderator.
>>
>> On 08/20/2014 12:31 AM, ant elder wrote:
>>
>>> I'm waiting for the subscribe to the private list to be moderated in, who
>>> are the moderators of that list?
>>>
>>> ...ant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The name search guide is here:
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
>>>> process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
>>>> personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
>>>> on the podling private list.
>>>>
>>>> ...ant
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
>>>>> stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
>>>>> commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
>>>>> suite.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>>>>>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> search
>>>>> came into existence.
>>>>>>>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>>>>>>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>>>>>>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>>>>>>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
>>>>>>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>>>>>> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola)
>>>>>> came
>>>>>> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What do
>>>>> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
>>>>> name?
>>>>> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
--
Thorsten Scherler <scherler.at.gmail.com>
codeBusters S.L. - web based systems
<consulting, training and solutions>
http://www.codebusters.es/
Re: Name search
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
How's this coming?
The quickest way I find is to email apmail@apache.org, CC'ing the private
list asking to be added as a moderator. Should get actioned within the day.
HTH
...ant
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> Don't know. I know that I'm not, but I will work with infra to get myself
> added as a moderator.
>
> On 08/20/2014 12:31 AM, ant elder wrote:
>
>> I'm waiting for the subscribe to the private list to be moderated in, who
>> are the moderators of that list?
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The name search guide is here:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
>>> process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
>>> personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
>>> on the podling private list.
>>>
>>> ...ant
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
>>>> stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
>>>> commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
>>>> suite.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>>>>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> search
>>>
>>>> came into existence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>>>>>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>>>>>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>>>>>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> --tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
>>>>>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola)
>>>>> came
>>>>> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not.
>>>>>
>>>> What do
>>>
>>>> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
>>>>>
>>>> name?
>>>
>>>> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: Name search
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
Don't know. I know that I'm not, but I will work with infra to get
myself added as a moderator.
On 08/20/2014 12:31 AM, ant elder wrote:
> I'm waiting for the subscribe to the private list to be moderated in, who
> are the moderators of that list?
>
> ...ant
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The name search guide is here:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
>> process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
>> personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
>> on the podling private list.
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
>>> stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
>>> commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
>>>
>>> I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
>>> suite.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>>>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
>> search
>>>>>> came into existence.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>>>>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>>>>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>>>>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --tim
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
>>>>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>>>>>
>>>> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>>>>
>>>> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
>>>> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not.
>> What do
>>>> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
>> name?
>>>> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>> Richard
>>>>
Re: Name search
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
I'm waiting for the subscribe to the private list to be moderated in, who
are the moderators of that list?
...ant
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The name search guide is here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
> process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
> personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
> on the podling private list.
>
> ...ant
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
> > stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
> > commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
> >
> > I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
> > suite.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
> >>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
> search
> >>>> came into existence.
> >>>>
> >>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
> >>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
> >>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
> >>> of the Star Wars sense.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --tim
> >>>
> >>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
> >>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
> >>
> >> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
> >> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not.
> What do
> >> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
> name?
> >> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >> Richard
> >>
>
Re: Name search
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
The name search guide is here:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html and that describes a
process that should be followed, its not determined by conjecture and
personal opinion. Note that discussion about the specifics should be
on the podling private list.
...ant
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:31 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
> stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
> commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
>
> I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
> suite.
>
> John
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name search
>>>> came into existence.
>>>>
>>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --tim
>>>
>>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
>>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>>>
>>
>> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>>
>> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
>> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not. What do
>> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new name?
>> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Richard
>>
Re: Name search
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
So, my honest opinion is that Droids would be bad to use from a naming
stand point. The name search is meant to indicate whether something is
commonly known and would be uniquely identifiable as an organization.
I don't think, based on the original search results, that "Droids" will
suite.
John
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>
wrote:
> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name search
>>> came into existence.
>>>
>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --tim
>>
>> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.
>> mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>>
>
> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>
> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
> out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not. What do
> we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new name?
> Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Richard
>
Re: Name search
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <sc...@gmail.com>.
On 08/18/2014 09:45 PM, Richard Frovarp wrote:
> On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name
>>> search
>>> came into existence.
>> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
>> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
>> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
>> of the Star Wars sense.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --tim
>>
>> [1] -
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
>
> Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
>
> Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola)
> came out, more people are going to think it is Android related than
> not. What do we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and
> develop a new name? Would that make life easier when it comes to this
> process?
>
Yeah, it was because of the droids of star war as in robots.
I think we do not need to observe the old name and can choose anything
that pleases us.
salu2
--
Thorsten Scherler <scherler.at.gmail.com>
codeBusters S.L. - web based systems
<consulting, training and solutions>
http://www.codebusters.es/
Re: Name search
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 08/07/2014 07:46 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
>> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name search
>> came into existence.
> It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
> hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
> popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
> of the Star Wars sense.
>
> Thanks,
> --tim
>
> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
Thorsten named it, but I'm guessing you're right.
Since Android and the Droid line (mostly from Verizon and Motorola) came
out, more people are going to think it is Android related than not. What
do we need to do for the name search? Do we just abort and develop a new
name? Would that make life easier when it comes to this process?
Thanks for your help,
Richard
Re: Name search
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:11 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
> "Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name search
> came into existence.
It started as a Labs project[1] and predates the name search. It's
hard to recall exactly but it feels like it also predates the
popularization of "Android" as well. I gather most folks think more
of the Star Wars sense.
Thanks,
--tim
[1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/labs-labs/200702.mbox/%3C1170850642.8380.31.camel@localhost%3E
Re: Name search
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
So, the first step is for you guys to tell me how you got to the name
"Droids." I'm assuming it was established before the podling name search
came into existence.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Thorsten Scherler <sc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On 08/07/2014 02:02 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> > Hi Droids!
> >
> > I noticed on your quarterly you listed name search as a big issue and a
> > little intimidating. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to help get
> you
> > through the process. Just let me know.
> >
> >
>
> That would be very helpful, TIA John.
>
> salu2
>
> --
> Thorsten Scherler <scherler.at.gmail.com>
> codeBusters S.L. - web based systems
> <consulting, training and solutions>
>
> http://www.codebusters.es/
>
>
Re: Name search
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <sc...@gmail.com>.
On 08/07/2014 02:02 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Hi Droids!
>
> I noticed on your quarterly you listed name search as a big issue and a
> little intimidating. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to help get you
> through the process. Just let me know.
>
>
That would be very helpful, TIA John.
salu2
--
Thorsten Scherler <scherler.at.gmail.com>
codeBusters S.L. - web based systems
<consulting, training and solutions>
http://www.codebusters.es/